Re: Micro II Tabernacle
There is a photo of a Long Micro tabernacle in the files here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/files/Andrew%27s%20Long%20Micro/
The scantlings call for 21/2" X 51/2" by 4'7" tall posts with 1/4" X 4"
X 10" SS plates on the inside faces and a 3/4" pivot bolt. There has to
be a 11/2" X 21/2" Xabout 10" chock installed across behind the posts
at the bottom and through-bolted through the posts there. So the posts
have to be thick enough to take these bolt holes.
Of course on the Micro everything will be somewhat lighter since the
sail plan and mast are smaller. I would think full 2" X 4" X about
3'6" tall posts would work, since the mast is almost 4" at the partners.
Your "standard" 2x6 would be a bit thin and wide, but maybe could have a
1 X laminated to the outside part way up until the SS plates took over
the stiffening requirement. Round off everything and it might not look
too bad.
Nels
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/files/Andrew%27s%20Long%20Micro/
The scantlings call for 21/2" X 51/2" by 4'7" tall posts with 1/4" X 4"
X 10" SS plates on the inside faces and a 3/4" pivot bolt. There has to
be a 11/2" X 21/2" Xabout 10" chock installed across behind the posts
at the bottom and through-bolted through the posts there. So the posts
have to be thick enough to take these bolt holes.
Of course on the Micro everything will be somewhat lighter since the
sail plan and mast are smaller. I would think full 2" X 4" X about
3'6" tall posts would work, since the mast is almost 4" at the partners.
Your "standard" 2x6 would be a bit thin and wide, but maybe could have a
1 X laminated to the outside part way up until the SS plates took over
the stiffening requirement. Round off everything and it might not look
too bad.
Nels
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "BrianA" <bawrytr@...> wrote:
>
> I used three layers of 1cm by 6cm pine laminated together with epoxy
for the tabernacle on the 12' mast on my boat. Worked well enough on the
initial sail, but haven't had it out when the wind was really piping up,
I must say. I think if I had to do it again I would have used good
straight-grained oak on the two outside laminations -- not really all
that much difference in weight, but very considerably stronger, and I
think that a laminated board will be significantly stronger than the
same kind and grade of solid wood the same dimensions.
>
> I also would steer clear of the plywood in that if you think about how
it is made, something like half of the wood is straight cross-grain,
giving next to no strength at all in tension or compression, and even
the plies that are ostensibly long grain can be made up of a
considerable amount of more of less cross grain. You often see this when
you paint or varnish ply - some parts stay more or less smooth, other
areas grow finely spaced sharp points -- areas where when they peeled
the log, they cut through diagonal grain.
>
> Cheers, Brian
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" scsbmsjoe@ wrote:
> >
> > I recomend solid wood. Fir is good. I would not use plywood because
I don't think it would be as strong in this application. Anyone want to
dispute this?
> >
> > Joe T
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "epoxy15" <cmccabe@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Since nobody wanted to buy my unfinished Micro and encouraged by a
fellow Micro owner, I decided to finish the boat and go sailing! So---
> > > I have the Micro II upgrade plans (not deckhouse version)and
cannot visualize in 3D what the tabernacle will look like. Also any
opinions whether the tabernacle should be made of laminated plywood or
solid (fir) wood. Can anyone direct me to a photo of a finished Micro II
tabernacle? Thanks in advance, Feel free to email me direct,
> > >
> > > Charles
> > >
> >
>
I used three layers of 1cm by 6cm pine laminated together with epoxy for the tabernacle on the 12' mast on my boat. Worked well enough on the initial sail, but haven't had it out when the wind was really piping up, I must say. I think if I had to do it again I would have used good straight-grained oak on the two outside laminations -- not really all that much difference in weight, but very considerably stronger, and I think that a laminated board will be significantly stronger than the same kind and grade of solid wood the same dimensions.
I also would steer clear of the plywood in that if you think about how it is made, something like half of the wood is straight cross-grain, giving next to no strength at all in tension or compression, and even the plies that are ostensibly long grain can be made up of a considerable amount of more of less cross grain. You often see this when you paint or varnish ply - some parts stay more or less smooth, other areas grow finely spaced sharp points -- areas where when they peeled the log, they cut through diagonal grain.
Cheers, Brian
I also would steer clear of the plywood in that if you think about how it is made, something like half of the wood is straight cross-grain, giving next to no strength at all in tension or compression, and even the plies that are ostensibly long grain can be made up of a considerable amount of more of less cross grain. You often see this when you paint or varnish ply - some parts stay more or less smooth, other areas grow finely spaced sharp points -- areas where when they peeled the log, they cut through diagonal grain.
Cheers, Brian
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" <scsbmsjoe@...> wrote:
>
> I recomend solid wood. Fir is good. I would not use plywood because I don't think it would be as strong in this application. Anyone want to dispute this?
>
> Joe T
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "epoxy15" <cmccabe@> wrote:
> >
> > Since nobody wanted to buy my unfinished Micro and encouraged by a fellow Micro owner, I decided to finish the boat and go sailing! So---
> > I have the Micro II upgrade plans (not deckhouse version)and cannot visualize in 3D what the tabernacle will look like. Also any opinions whether the tabernacle should be made of laminated plywood or solid (fir) wood. Can anyone direct me to a photo of a finished Micro II tabernacle? Thanks in advance, Feel free to email me direct,
> >
> > Charles
> >
>
Most tabernacles I've seen on plans seem to favor a pair of 2 x 6's. However, I just finished two tabernacles for unstayed 20' masts and used the locally available 1x6 (net 3/4" x 5 1/2") doug fir and laminated a single layer of 1/4" plywood to the outer sides.. I'm very happy with the results. Best of both worlds, and they are very stout without the bulky appearance and weight of 2x6's (Not that that is a bad thing). They are yet to be tested, but soon....
Rick
Rick
From:Joe <scsbmsjoe@...>
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent:Tue, April 27, 2010 12:02:54 AMe layer
Subject:[bolger] Re: Micro II Tabernacle
I recomend solid wood. Fir is good. I would not use plywood because I don't think it would be as strong in this application. Anyone want to dispute this?
Joe T
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "epoxy15" <cmccabe@...> wrote:
>
> Since nobody wanted to buy my unfinished Micro and encouraged by a fellow Micro owner, I decided to finish the boat and go sailing! So---
> I have the Micro II upgrade plans (not deckhouse version)and cannot visualize in 3D what the tabernacle will look like. Also any opinions whether the tabernacle should be made of laminated plywood or solid (fir) wood. Can anyone direct me to a photo of a finished Micro II tabernacle? Thanks in advance, Feel free to email me direct,
>
> Charles
>
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I recomend solid wood. Fir is good. I would not use plywood because I don't think it would be as strong in this application. Anyone want to dispute this?
Joe T
Joe T
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "epoxy15" <cmccabe@...> wrote:
>
> Since nobody wanted to buy my unfinished Micro and encouraged by a fellow Micro owner, I decided to finish the boat and go sailing! So---
> I have the Micro II upgrade plans (not deckhouse version)and cannot visualize in 3D what the tabernacle will look like. Also any opinions whether the tabernacle should be made of laminated plywood or solid (fir) wood. Can anyone direct me to a photo of a finished Micro II tabernacle? Thanks in advance, Feel free to email me direct,
>
> Charles
>
Since nobody wanted to buy my unfinished Micro and encouraged by a fellow Micro owner, I decided to finish the boat and go sailing! So---
I have the Micro II upgrade plans (not deckhouse version)and cannot visualize in 3D what the tabernacle will look like. Also any opinions whether the tabernacle should be made of laminated plywood or solid (fir) wood. Can anyone direct me to a photo of a finished Micro II tabernacle? Thanks in advance, Feel free to email me direct,
Charles
I have the Micro II upgrade plans (not deckhouse version)and cannot visualize in 3D what the tabernacle will look like. Also any opinions whether the tabernacle should be made of laminated plywood or solid (fir) wood. Can anyone direct me to a photo of a finished Micro II tabernacle? Thanks in advance, Feel free to email me direct,
Charles