Re: Diablo

Robin,
I'd love some shots. I'd also like to know how easy moving around
is. The Photos on the Duckflat site make it look huge but I suspect a
rat!
Don

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Badenoch" <robinbadenoch@a...>
wrote:

> Hi,
> I was in Duck Flat Wooden boats this morning looking at the

newest Mundoo III being built. If you like I can take some photos and
post them for you. You will find it difficult to find its Bolger
heratage. It is to bedriven by a 12HP electric motor.

>
> Rob B
> Adelaide South Australia
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tysond99
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:06 PM
> Subject: [bolger] Diablo
>
>
> Can anyone remember building a
> Diablo and using a jet outboard on it successfully?
>
> Don Tyson
>
> By the way, Cousin Hugo, have you been aboard a Mundoo III to

check

> it out for me yet? ........Seriously though If you see one or

live

> near one would you check it out for me?
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Whooo where is your mind make that be driven .... Rob B

----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Hector
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Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:52 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Diablo

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Badenoch" <robinbadenoch@a...>
wrote: "It is to bedriven by a 12HP electric motor."

Wow, kind of like "gun'nle bobbing" where you stand on a canoe's or
skiff's aft gun'wales and bounce by flexing your knees for forward
propulsion? Great fun on a hot day as you're sure to fall in a few
times til you get the hang of it.

I'f love to see the mechanics of hooking the bedsprings to the prop.

Full speed ahead darling! Bounce! Bounce! Bounce!

Lean left sweety, there's foul ground to starboard!

Fuel econy? Horrendous! All that champers and strawberries!

Bruce Hector
Wondering if TIMS can be "gun'wale bobbed" by a crew of 30 or so
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Badenoch" <robinbadenoch@a...>
wrote: "It is to bedriven by a 12HP electric motor."

Wow, kind of like "gun'nle bobbing" where you stand on a canoe's or
skiff's aft gun'wales and bounce by flexing your knees for forward
propulsion? Great fun on a hot day as you're sure to fall in a few
times til you get the hang of it.

I'f love to see the mechanics of hooking the bedsprings to the prop.

Full speed ahead darling! Bounce! Bounce! Bounce!

Lean left sweety, there's foul ground to starboard!

Fuel econy? Horrendous! All that champers and strawberries!

Bruce Hector
Wondering if TIMS can be "gun'wale bobbed" by a crew of 30 or so
sveldt spandex covered "bobbers" as Peter Lenihan beat the drum and
guards to frosty ale.. Hmmmmmmmm!

Hi,
I was in Duck Flat Wooden boats this morning looking at the newest Mundoo III being built. If you like I can take some photos and post them for you. You will find it difficult to find its Bolger heratage. It is to bedriven by a 12HP electric motor.

Rob B
Adelaide South Australia

----- Original Message -----
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To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:06 PM
Subject: [bolger] Diablo

Can anyone remember building a
Diablo and using a jet outboard on it successfully?

Don Tyson

By the way, Cousin Hugo, have you been aboard a Mundoo III to check
it out for me yet? ........Seriously though If you see one or live
near one would you check it out for me?

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I know of no Mundoos anywhere near me and since I live in Tasmania, which is separated by a couple of hundred miles of water (Bass Strait )from mainland Australia I rarely get over to the mainland, let alone South Australia where the Mundoos are based.If by any unlikely chance I do see one I'll certainly check it out and let you know.

tysond99 <tysond99@...> wrote:
Can anyone remember building a
Diablo and using a jet outboard on it successfully?

Don Tyson

By the way, Cousin Hugo, have you been aboard a Mundoo III to check
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Can anyone remember building a
Diablo and using a jet outboard on it successfully?

Don Tyson

By the way, Cousin Hugo, have you been aboard a Mundoo III to check
it out for me yet? ........Seriously though If you see one or live
near one would you check it out for me?

I don't think it would be a good idea to reduce diablo to 12',she would become alot more tender(up to a point) at that size and be only suitable for 2-3 adults

dkpsail <lindaldavep@...> wrote:I'm considering building Diablo as a scaled down 12'x4' for use with a
9.8HP outboard that weights 57 lbs. Anyone experienced in scaling
down or up with this model? It seems as if I could just downsize all
measurements in my plans by 20%, but my concern is the bending of the
bilge pieces may increase unreasonably. Any thoughts?

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A first SWAG says that if the measurements are 80% of the original, the
volume will be half. Does the 57 lb motor represent half the weight of the
24 hp recommended? (0.8 x 0.8 x 0.8 = 0.512)

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> I'm considering building Diablo as a scaled down 12'x4' for use with a
> 9.8HP outboard that weights 57 lbs. Anyone experienced in scaling
> down or up with this model? It seems as if I could just downsize all
> measurements in my plans by 20%, but my concern is the bending of the
> bilge pieces may increase unreasonably. Any thoughts?

I'm considering building Diablo as a scaled down 12'x4' for use with a
9.8HP outboard that weights 57 lbs. Anyone experienced in scaling
down or up with this model? It seems as if I could just downsize all
measurements in my plans by 20%, but my concern is the bending of the
bilge pieces may increase unreasonably. Any thoughts?

Hello to you all , This is my first post ,as a member of this
group , I am the proud Owner/Builder of a Diablo . She is over three
years old , and has seen some heavy use , A wonderfull boat , i use
a 15 hp Honda 4 Stroke ,and it makes her fly! I made some
Modifications to the seating ,to be comfortable as a fishing
boat ,and it works very well.I used out door carpet for most of the
interior , sure saves a lot of sanding on the tape seams ect , and
looks good to i think ! Have posted a number of photos,in the photo
section under DIABLO , Thank you Mr Bolger For a wonderfull boat ,
Steve Dandridge , North East California

> Well I want the sea keeping ability of the Diablo, for the Bahamas
> chop ect, a nice dry boat is needed. Friends have tried Jon boats
> but they are too wet.

Well, depending on your preferences, you could always build a lightly
powered dory. =)

--T

--- In bolger@y..., "pvanderwaart" <pvanderw@o...> wrote:

> Not to be disloyal to PCB, you might consider the 12' jon-boat at
> www.bateau.com.
>
> Among PCB-boats, a Skimmer (see www.instantboats.com) might make a
> quick and dirty pushboat.
>
> PHV

Well I want the sea keeping ability of the Diablo, for the Bahamas
chop ect, a nice dry boat is needed. Friends have tried Jon boats
but they are too wet.

I liked the idea of just building the 15' and moving the transom up.
The bow idea I had was to just do the same thing, cut a ply bow piece
and take away the last pointy 6inches or so, keeping the shape
cutwater and high bow in place.

Thanks for the ideas one and all, Richard

Not to be disloyal to PCB, you might consider the 12' jon-boat at
www.bateau.com.

Among PCB-boats, a Skimmer (see www.instantboats.com) might make a
quick and dirty pushboat.

PHV

--- In bolger@y..., "svjackahearts" <redstackrb@a...> wrote:

>
> I am looking to replace my 12ft Lund Aluminum skiff that I use as a
> tender for my sailboat. I think that the Diablo would be a good

boat

> for this but of course it's longer than 12'. I wonder about either

> shorter model of the same hull or shortening this one by taking the
> pointed bow and replacing it with a small bow transom, this would
> allow better fendering of the bow when used as a yawl boat anyway,
> and shorting the stern section by a couple of feet as well.

A couple thoughts:

Diablo is about 15 x 5; Grande is about 18 x 6 -- what about a mini,
12 x 4, scaled down all around. I figure 8hp should be about right,
15 really fast.

Or, your idea for a bow transom is neat, just build it with an
oversized forward frame/bulkhead, and cut off the bow part. Then
glue on a big piece of foam, and shape to taste (coarse sandpaper on
an angle grinder works great). The bow section is about 3' (as I
recall) and adds a lot of windage. Of course it's awful nice in a
big chop (c:

On my Diablo I made some changes to minimize bailing - a scuppered
deck (raised 6") in the forward section, and big seats/flotation
(also scuppered) on each side, for the aft 8'. Any water you do get
in the 2' wide footwell actually increases stability.

A wedge cutout in the transom bottom lets me run a short shaft motor
on a "long" transom, eliminating 4" of draft. No major performance
drawbacks.

Also, redesigned the forward seat for our 6-year-old lookout and a
friend. At speed in a chop, she rides like a jockey.

By the way, we got a Yamaha 25hp 4cycle, and it goes great. We can
now run into town (10 miles) as fast by boat as driving! A couple
weeks ago we (2 adults, 2 kids, some cargo) did errands and
socializing, about 50 miles, on 6 or 8 gallons.

I've built a Diablo. While it's more common to see people stretching
them to 18', it could easily be built shorter. If I were to do that
I'd leave the bow as designed and chop 2 feet off the stern. The aft
8 feet of Diablo are all straight, flat panels. It would be a simple
matter to just mount the transom as far inboard as desired and chop
off the excess.

I am looking to replace my 12ft Lund Aluminum skiff that I use as a
tender for my sailboat. I think that the Diablo would be a good boat
for this but of course it's longer than 12'. I wonder about either a
shorter model of the same hull or shortening this one by taking the
pointed bow and replacing it with a small bow transom, this would
allow better fendering of the bow when used as a yawl boat anyway,
and shorting the stern section by a couple of feet as well. I would
be using a 15 HP 2 stroke as the biggest engine, so performance would
be in keeping with the design. What do you think?

I second the motion on this. We actually use the boat more for
swimming than fishing, I can actually sit on the gunwale and ease
myself into the water or climb in by just rolling myself in. I was
actually thinking of trying to set a few lobster pots this year just
to see what would happen.

The only problem is its light weight. It does blow around a lot.

David Jost

> >
> > When you say ieal, it sounds as though you need to
> > stay poised in the middle. If you
> > caught a large fish, could the not so dead weight be
> > hauled over the side?
> >

Oh, you can stand on the gunwale of this boat and it won't go under. It just
rolls down to within eight inches or a foot of the water, and stays there.
Makes it very easy to board over the side after a swim. Also makes it
grandma's preferred skiff, because at age 71 she can board from the beach
by sitting on the gunwale and gently swinging her legs over. Hadn't really
thought about it before, but it's another virtue of this remarkable boat.

> Interesting!
>
> When you say ieal, it sounds as though you need to
> stay poised in the middle. If you
> caught a large fish, could the not so dead weight be
> hauled over the side?
>

Interesting!

When you say ieal, it sounds as though you need to
stay poised in the middle. Kind of like a canoe. Of
course there are pictures of canoes being used for the
earliest tarpon and bonefishing. And then there is
the guy who uses a canoe and a stepladder. If you
caught a large fish, could the not so dead weight be
hauled over the side?

The ideal boat is any boat as far as I am concerned
having shore fished the keys, I would have prefered
even a Lund.

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I use my Diablo for flats fishing a lot, and I
wouldn't want a center console. 
My boat has a big wide seat for the helmsman, and a
tiller extension on a 
40-horse outboard. (This boat is three feet longer
than the stock Diablo, and 
has a doubled bottom). Fishing on the flats, I
stand up on the seat, well 
above the water, with the tiller extension in one hand
and my rod in the 
other. There's room for another person to fish
standing up in the bow. The 
boat is utterly stable like this. If you want to
change your drift you can run at 
semi-planing speeds standing on the seat in calm
water. 
 
The boat wasn't intended as a flats-fishing platform,
it just turned out that 
way. But as it happens, it's ideal for the
purpose.

> Looking back through so old threads there was

some talk of putting a

> centre console on a Diablo. Did anyone ever

see a photo of this?

>

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I had a center console on my Diablo and removed it after 2 years. I
found that it was in the way when fishing, and made it much harder to
maintain. I also can stand on the center seat, bow platform, or
stern seats to reach my intended target. The boat is so narrow that
the center console really impedes travel around the boat.

All I have to do to clean up at the end of the season is to remove
the motor with the motor clamps and then flip the boat upside down.
That's it!

I use a cheap trailer for my 13' racing dinghy. The Diablo hangs off
the back about 1 foot. no problem so far. The motor I use is a 10
hp longshaft Johnson 2 stroke. It planes with 2 aboard.

My only complaint is that as a light boat it blows around
considerable. I tried to put on a plank keel but it did not help
much. Also, if you put the keel on, stop it about a foot from the
transom or you get a terribly rooster tail!

Time to get your lumber and start.

Happy Boating,
David Jost

I use my Diablo for flats fishing a lot, and I wouldn't want a center console.
My boat has a big wide seat for the helmsman, and a tiller extension on a
40-horse outboard. (This boat is three feet longer than the stock Diablo, and
has a doubled bottom). Fishing on the flats, I stand up on the seat, well
above the water, with the tiller extension in one hand and my rod in the
other. There's room for another person to fish standing up in the bow. The
boat is utterly stable like this. If you want to change your drift you can run at
semi-planing speeds standing on the seat in calm water.

The boat wasn't intended as a flats-fishing platform, it just turned out that
way. But as it happens, it's ideal for the purpose.

> Looking back through so old threads there was some talk of putting a
> centre console on a Diablo. Did anyone ever see a photo of this?
>

My father uses a 15 hp 4 stroke Honda on his and is very satisfied with it.

Stuart Crawford
New Zealand

on 30/10/01 10:45 AM,don@...atdon@...wrote:

> Looking back through so old threads there was some talk of putting a
> centre console on a Diablo. Did anyone ever see a photo of this?
>
> I am looking at making a Diablo for fly fishing around Xmas but need
> to finish my shed first. Is there any modifications that I should be
> considering? I see modern boats have two bungs. One pur in from
> each side. This allows you to drain any water while you are motoring
> along using the inside one.
>
> Does anyone have the two articles that were in the boat builder mag?
> How to Build Diablo, Part 1 and Part 2
>
> What about a simple trailer design?
>
> I would also be interested in seeing a list of the range of motors
> that people use on a Diablo
>
> Thanks
>
> Don
>
>
>
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--- In bolger@y..., don@s... wrote:

> Looking back through so old threads there was some talk of putting

> centre console on a Diablo. Did anyone ever see a photo of this?
>
>

There was a photo in "Launchings" in "WoodenBoat" a few years back
of a "Diablo" with a center console. Actually, thinking about it, it
may have been quite a few years ago. Possibly in the 1980's.
Bruce

A Fisherman's Skiff would undoubtedly be more
practical for stand up fishing, but man, the Diablo is
such a pretty boat. A local (Lower Delaware) fellow
built and fishes one here around the mouth of the
Delaware Bay, and I can identify it from as far away
as I can make out the profile. There is nothing else
around here with a sheer line like that. Might make
it worth trying to fly fish sitting down. . . .

Sam

--- thomas dalzell <proaconstrictor@...> wrote:

> I don't know what kind of Fly Fishing you are
> referring to, but if you are talking about flats
> fishing or similar, then I corresponded with Bolger
> years ago with the idea of putting a center console
> on
> a fisherman's skiff, which they later did with the
> larger version, and decking of the type required for
> efficient flats fishing. He was willing to review
> my
> changes tot he design, if I wanted to proceed with
> it.
>
> This is still a boat that I would like to build, I
> think it is a very practical alternative to the
> rather
> expensive flats boats one sees. It would also be
> good
> for Bass etc...
>
> In the end, I designed and built the 16'
> BassAckwards, a catamaran fishing platform. It has
> all the stability and platform requirements, while
> probably weighing about as much as the bottom on a
> fisherman's skiff. On the other hand, it just takes
> a
> kicker, and a electric motor.
>
> ---don@...wrote:
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> <tt>
> Looking back through so old threads there was some
> talk of putting a 
> centre console on a Diablo. Did anyone ever
> see
> a photo of this? 
> 
> I am looking at making a Diablo for fly fishing
> around
> Xmas but need 
> to finish my shed first. Is there any
> modifications that I should be 
> considering? I see modern boats have two
> bungs. One pur in from 
> each side. This allows you to drain any water
> while you are motoring 
> along using the inside one. 
> 
> Does anyone have the two articles that were in the
> boat builder mag? 
> How to Build Diablo, Part 1 and Part 2 
> 
> What about a simple trailer design? 
> 
> I would also be interested in seeing a list of the
> range of motors 
> that people use on a Diablo 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Don 
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> Looking back through so old threads there was some talk of putting a
> centre console on a Diablo. Did anyone ever see a photo of this?

I haven't, but Diablo Grande is designed with a sit-down "console". At
speed, in rough weather, a console might be fun. But if you're after a
"walk around" design, this is the wrong boat. It's pretty unstable
initially; if you step outside the narrow flat bottom, the boat goes right
over until the chine hits the water. Then it's rock solid, but at an
uncomfortable angle.

> I am looking at making a Diablo for fly fishing around Xmas but need
> to finish my shed first. Is there any modifications that I should be
> considering?

I just rebuilt one I had bought used and abused. The plywood stem and
transom knees were pretty much totally rotted. Also rot due to bad
detailing of the transom. I put in big 8' seats/flotation chambers port &
stbd (eliminating the transom knee), and added a raised deck in the forward
section. 5" isn't high enough to leave the scuppers open when in use
(though perhaps a centered scupper would work better.)

I made lots of other modifications for my unique circumstances, like cutting
a notch in the bottom of the 19" transom, so a short shaft motor performs
better - it will now run wide open in well under a foot of water...

>I see modern boats have two bungs. One pur in from
> each side. This allows you to drain any water while you are motoring
> along using the inside one.

Just don't forget to put it back in when you stop and leave the boat for an
hour or two ;-)

> Does anyone have the two articles that were in the boat builder mag?
> How to Build Diablo, Part 1 and Part 2

There are a number of Diablo web sites; start with Payson's site.

> What about a simple trailer design?

Sorry, I've never used one...

> I would also be interested in seeing a list of the range of motors
> that people use on a Diablo

An old 15 hp Evinrude/Johnson hybrid. Goes great light, but bogs down quite
a bit with more than 6-800 lbs aboard. It goes with an 8, (or, lately, on
1 cylinder of the 15) but won't win any races. I think my next engine may
be a 25.

Hope this is helpful,
Curtis

I don't know what kind of Fly Fishing you are
referring to, but if you are talking about flats
fishing or similar, then I corresponded with Bolger
years ago with the idea of putting a center console on
a fisherman's skiff, which they later did with the
larger version, and decking of the type required for
efficient flats fishing. He was willing to review my
changes tot he design, if I wanted to proceed with it.

This is still a boat that I would like to build, I
think it is a very practical alternative to the rather
expensive flats boats one sees. It would also be good
for Bass etc...

In the end, I designed and built the 16'
BassAckwards, a catamaran fishing platform. It has
all the stability and platform requirements, while
probably weighing about as much as the bottom on a
fisherman's skiff. On the other hand, it just takes a
kicker, and a electric motor.

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Looking back through so old threads there was some
talk of putting a 
centre console on a Diablo. Did anyone ever see
a photo of this? 
 
I am looking at making a Diablo for fly fishing around
Xmas but need 
to finish my shed first. Is there any
modifications that I should be 
considering? I see modern boats have two
bungs. One pur in from 
each side. This allows you to drain any water
while you are motoring 
along using the inside one. 
 
Does anyone have the two articles that were in the
boat builder mag? 
How to Build Diablo, Part 1 and Part 2 
 
What about a simple trailer design? 
 
I would also be interested in seeing a list of the
range of motors 
that people use on a Diablo 
 
Thanks 
 
Don 
 
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Looking back through so old threads there was some talk of putting a
centre console on a Diablo. Did anyone ever see a photo of this?

I am looking at making a Diablo for fly fishing around Xmas but need
to finish my shed first. Is there any modifications that I should be
considering? I see modern boats have two bungs. One pur in from
each side. This allows you to drain any water while you are motoring
along using the inside one.

Does anyone have the two articles that were in the boat builder mag?
How to Build Diablo, Part 1 and Part 2

What about a simple trailer design?

I would also be interested in seeing a list of the range of motors
that people use on a Diablo

Thanks

Don

David,
I agree that Diablo is definitely a motor boat, but my experience at
rowing it SLOWLY has been most enjoyable, particularly with a couple of
people as ballast to give it momentum.

Stuart Crawford

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>From:djost@...
>To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [bolger] Re: Diablo
>Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:41 PM
>

> Stuart,
> I couldn't disagree with you more on this. Diablo is a dog to
> row. That transom is just too wide and the boat is too light and
> beamy to make any reasonable progress. But, turn on the motor and
> she flies!
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> Ashland, MA
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Stuart,
I couldn't disagree with you more on this. Diablo is a dog to
row. That transom is just too wide and the boat is too light and
beamy to make any reasonable progress. But, turn on the motor and
she flies!

David Jost
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Yes Diablo can be quite pleasurable to row. That is if you aren't in to much
of a hurry.

Stuart Crawford

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>From:gjs309@...
>To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [bolger] Diablo
>Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:49 AM
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> I am wondering if anyone knows if Diablo can be rowed with any
> success?
>
> George Shannon
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I am wondering if anyone knows if Diablo can be rowed with any
success?

George Shannon

Hello Richard,
Thanks so much for your helpful comments.
I notice with interest your comment about the cabin - is this
something you designed? Sorry to be a nuisance but do you have any
details e.g.size, framing details, etc.
Thanks again
mgy