Re: [bolger] Re: Gypsy questions. Crystal too.
Jon Kolb built a stretched version as pure rowing boat with a skeg.
The stretched version looks wicked fast. Jon did a nice job of making
the already good looks look even better.
http://www.kolbsadventures.com/scout_1.htm
HJ
William wrote:
The stretched version looks wicked fast. Jon did a nice job of making
the already good looks look even better.
http://www.kolbsadventures.com/scout_1.htm
HJ
William wrote:
> Eric,
> Sorry for the delay in replying.
> I never put a motor on Gypsy. The plans (which are not with me now) list the max HP OB. It's an easily driven hull, however, and I think any OB would make her scoot. She sails well, but the hull requires hiking and an energetic crew (max = 2) to keep her sailing in windier conditions. She will death roll like a bandit running downwind if you accidentally jibe. I once had a multiple series of jibes, each worse than the last, which culminated in the rail buried into the lake and a great gusher of water flowing over the rail into the boat. The water ballast stopped the boat and stopped the death rolls. My Gypsy was the boat I really learned to sail on, and it was a great boat for sailing. For other uses (as a tender, as a fishing boat, etc.) I would personally prefer a more stable hull (like June Bug). For such a long hull, the useable space is divided into sections, which limits its utility. But again, as a sail boat, she's a blast.
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> She rows well, but could use a small skeg. If you get the hull moving at a good clip (which you can do if you're rowing hard), she had a tendency to turn quickly and unexpectedly 90 degrees. Others have suggested a small skeg. I never installed one bc I was busy building my LM. I made mine from .25 inch ply with 4 oz. fiberglass cloth on the outside. Two coats of paint. I never weighed her, but she was hefty- I guesstimate the bare hull weighed between 110 and 140 lbs.
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> Bottom line? I don't think she would be an optimal tender or tug.
> HTH
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> Bill
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> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Eric" <eric14850@...> wrote:
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>> Bill, you mentioned you owned a Gypsy. I would very much like to hear about Gypsy's performance in various environmental conditions and various use: sail, oar, power, and how Gypsy tows. If you know what max hp could be mounted for tug purposes I'd like to know that, and finished weight if you know that. Perhaps others will chime in as well.
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>> And if anyone has experience with Crystal or can tell me about Phil's experiences with Crystal I would very much like to know that as well.
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>> Bruce and others with a sense of such things, I would like opinions about comparative capabilities of Crystal and Gypsy if Gypsy was built with the same interior as Crystal to provide all weather unsinkable, row full of water capability like Crystal.
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>> Eric
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Eric,
Sorry for the delay in replying.
I never put a motor on Gypsy. The plans (which are not with me now) list the max HP OB. It's an easily driven hull, however, and I think any OB would make her scoot. She sails well, but the hull requires hiking and an energetic crew (max = 2) to keep her sailing in windier conditions. She will death roll like a bandit running downwind if you accidentally jibe. I once had a multiple series of jibes, each worse than the last, which culminated in the rail buried into the lake and a great gusher of water flowing over the rail into the boat. The water ballast stopped the boat and stopped the death rolls. My Gypsy was the boat I really learned to sail on, and it was a great boat for sailing. For other uses (as a tender, as a fishing boat, etc.) I would personally prefer a more stable hull (like June Bug). For such a long hull, the useable space is divided into sections, which limits its utility. But again, as a sail boat, she's a blast.
She rows well, but could use a small skeg. If you get the hull moving at a good clip (which you can do if you're rowing hard), she had a tendency to turn quickly and unexpectedly 90 degrees. Others have suggested a small skeg. I never installed one bc I was busy building my LM. I made mine from .25 inch ply with 4 oz. fiberglass cloth on the outside. Two coats of paint. I never weighed her, but she was hefty- I guesstimate the bare hull weighed between 110 and 140 lbs.
Bottom line? I don't think she would be an optimal tender or tug.
HTH
Bill
Sorry for the delay in replying.
I never put a motor on Gypsy. The plans (which are not with me now) list the max HP OB. It's an easily driven hull, however, and I think any OB would make her scoot. She sails well, but the hull requires hiking and an energetic crew (max = 2) to keep her sailing in windier conditions. She will death roll like a bandit running downwind if you accidentally jibe. I once had a multiple series of jibes, each worse than the last, which culminated in the rail buried into the lake and a great gusher of water flowing over the rail into the boat. The water ballast stopped the boat and stopped the death rolls. My Gypsy was the boat I really learned to sail on, and it was a great boat for sailing. For other uses (as a tender, as a fishing boat, etc.) I would personally prefer a more stable hull (like June Bug). For such a long hull, the useable space is divided into sections, which limits its utility. But again, as a sail boat, she's a blast.
She rows well, but could use a small skeg. If you get the hull moving at a good clip (which you can do if you're rowing hard), she had a tendency to turn quickly and unexpectedly 90 degrees. Others have suggested a small skeg. I never installed one bc I was busy building my LM. I made mine from .25 inch ply with 4 oz. fiberglass cloth on the outside. Two coats of paint. I never weighed her, but she was hefty- I guesstimate the bare hull weighed between 110 and 140 lbs.
Bottom line? I don't think she would be an optimal tender or tug.
HTH
Bill
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Eric" <eric14850@...> wrote:
>
> Bill, you mentioned you owned a Gypsy. I would very much like to hear about Gypsy's performance in various environmental conditions and various use: sail, oar, power, and how Gypsy tows. If you know what max hp could be mounted for tug purposes I'd like to know that, and finished weight if you know that. Perhaps others will chime in as well.
>
> And if anyone has experience with Crystal or can tell me about Phil's experiences with Crystal I would very much like to know that as well.
>
> Bruce and others with a sense of such things, I would like opinions about comparative capabilities of Crystal and Gypsy if Gypsy was built with the same interior as Crystal to provide all weather unsinkable, row full of water capability like Crystal.
>
> Eric
>
Bill, you mentioned you owned a Gypsy. I would very much like to hear about Gypsy's performance in various environmental conditions and various use: sail, oar, power, and how Gypsy tows. If you know what max hp could be mounted for tug purposes I'd like to know that, and finished weight if you know that. Perhaps others will chime in as well.
And if anyone has experience with Crystal or can tell me about Phil's experiences with Crystal I would very much like to know that as well.
Bruce and others with a sense of such things, I would like opinions about comparative capabilities of Crystal and Gypsy if Gypsy was built with the same interior as Crystal to provide all weather unsinkable, row full of water capability like Crystal.
Eric
And if anyone has experience with Crystal or can tell me about Phil's experiences with Crystal I would very much like to know that as well.
Bruce and others with a sense of such things, I would like opinions about comparative capabilities of Crystal and Gypsy if Gypsy was built with the same interior as Crystal to provide all weather unsinkable, row full of water capability like Crystal.
Eric