Re: [bolger] back to that hawkeye

Just to check the obvious, have you read the writeup on Hawkeye that appears in Boats With an Open Mind?

Frank,

if you view the group on the web the search facility available therehttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/msearch?query=hawkeye&submit=Search&charset=windows-1252turns up 311 hits in the message archive for the term 'hawkeye'. A good deal of those may contain what you're after, eg:

"Message #12444 of 63996; Fri Jun 22, 2001 6:21 am.

Re: Taking the Plunge

--- In bolger@y..., "Hannes" <h.kuehtreiber@t...> wrote:
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> hello bob,
> could you tell us about your hawkeye?
> -modified in what way?
> -building time / special difficulties?
> -engine / performance?
> -behaviour in other than dead flat water?
>
> think it is a very interesting design!
>
> hannes

Hi Hannes

My Hawkeye is a raised deck, pilothouse, campcruiser. It's
appearance has a 20''s or 30's look about it albeit rather stubby. The
genesis of its construction began with the publication of the plans
for the Microtrawler and reviews in various publications. I was quite
interested in some kind of campcruiser at the time. Although I like
Microtrawler I felt the greatest shortcoming was the lack of deck
space. I wanted to be able to be outside also. I bought plans but let
it ride. Shortly after this Mr Bolger published Hawkeye. This was the
other extreme from Microtrawler, lots of deck but not much
accommodation. Well I bought those plans also and immediately began a
number of schemes to provide sleeping accommodations with some deck
space remaining. My first try was to put the Microtrawler house onto
Hawkeye. This was pretty nice but I decided it wasn't what I wanted.
While scanning the ads in Soundings I saw a new but old time looking
power cruiser which served as the real inspiration for what was built.
The hull is essentially unchanged from the drawings except for the
profile of the sheer which accommodates the raised deck forward. The
raised deck provides space for two 6'6" berths. Immediately behind
this is a 4'by6' pilothouse open to the forward berths. It is roughly
seven feet from the back of the pilot house to the outer
transom providing deck space and space for the motor box. That makes
4X8 feet of deck clear. As a campcruiser I plan to cook and eat under
a fly over the deck area. If I camped alone the pilothouse would
serve.

My intention in building Hawkeye was to use it on a cruise of the
Trent-Severn and other canal systems in Ontario, Canada. As built it
would serve that purpose very nicely I think.

Hawkeye went together pretty well. It was built upside down as
specified though I understand there are second thoughts on this.
Turning over requires a carefully designed box structure built around
the hull which is described in the drawings and specifications.
Several of us were able to turn it over uneventfully. I had casters
placed to roll the whole thing out of the garage and then back in when
it was turned over. Then the forward decking was put in place and a
pilot house constructed. The pilot house was prefabricated because it
could not go on inside the garage because of the door clearance. A 25
hp Honda 4stroke was installed. Running lights, some electronics and a
superfluous autopilot were also added. The only difficulty in
constructing Hawkeye was handling large pieces of plywood by
myself-the topsides had potential of being a pain but in the event
they went on relatively easy. I placed for and aft panels separately
and used a butt block with epoxy but no other fasteners. Typically I
use a lot of drywall screws to hold things together until the epoxy
cures and then withdraw them. Sometimes they break. Hawkeye was built
in fits and starts over 2 years. The time is my inertia not the
difficulty of building. It is not an instant boat though.

After a late summer launch I was on the water only enough time to
break in the engine.

For purposes of canal cruising my Hawkeye will serve nicely. On open
water it probably would ride better than the original because of the
added weight. Because of the structure it is probably a good bit
stiffer than the original. Because of the weight it is probably a good
bit slower than the original with the same power. The prototype had a
tired 25 hp engine and speeds were clocked (sort of) at 16mph. My
Hawkeye would only attain about 13mph 4500 rpm. After a change of
propeller it would get to about 15 at 5200 rpm. A 40 or 50 Honda would
have been a better choice for open water but for the purposes I had in
mind a Yamaha 9 with the big prop would have served just as well since
I would be running mostly at no wake speeds.

Hawkeye is sensitive to weight and particularly weight shifting. I had
to reinstall my batteries on the centerline to keep the boat from
listing.

In smooth water the boat rides relatively quietly but with a little
chop the noise goes up considerably when at speed. The sharpie hull
and plywood construction almost guarantee that I should think.

If I were to do it over I would absolutely refrain from using
douglasfir marine plywood for the main deck. Actually I will never
use fir plywood for anything again ever. Some of the bits and pieces
were built using what was laying about my garage. (floor underlayment
types of plywood). I will never use anything but good marine plywood
in a boat ever, ever again AMEN!!!! The motor box and a hatch cover
will have to be replaced because of bad materials. I would use a
different engine, either for speed or for slow no-wake cruising. And
why did I ever put in an autopilot?? And I would do a better job of
sanding between the barrier coat and the finish paint.

This was a very interesting project and I learned quite a bit. Mr
Bolger as always was a paragon of patience and was most supportive of
my mods.
Bob Chamberland

Message #10453 of 63996; Thu Mar 15, 2001 3:12 am.

Re: The Perfect Boat

My modified Hawkeye does not plane as cleanly as the prototype which
was written up in Messing About in Boats. My modifications added quite
a bit of weight consequently it struggles some to get up on a plane.
With the wisdom of hindsight I should have used a 40 hp Honda instead
of the 25. Forty requires some modification of the transom since the
40 is not available with the short shaft. I've noted that most of the
MicroTrawlers that I've seen published have used 40 hp Hondas and they
get up and move. By the way plans are available from the Smithsonian
for Chapelle's "18 ft. Outboard Motor Campskiff" Mr Stambaugh's
Redwing, seems to be based on this design. It would be a little
smaller than Redwing I think. I once lofted this design adding 2
inches to each station to give it an overall length of 19 feet 5
inches. Sometimes I wish I had built it. If Mr Stanbaugh's Redwing
drawings had been available at the time I might have built that. The
Chapelle boat is not designed for plywood and I'm not sure how to make
the adjustments.
--- In bolger@y..., "Clyde S. Wisner" <clydewis@c...> wrote:
> Does the 25hp get the Hawkeye up on to the box keel? Clyde
>
> cha62759@t... wrote:
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> > I have modified Mr Bolger's Hawkeye to more or less fit your
> > requirements. The problem with the Microtrawler is that it has
> > little if any space outside (for fishing?). My modification was
> >

Message #60215 of 63996; Fri May 1, 2009 11:43 am.

Re: [bolger] Hawkeye

i own a Hawkeye. She has a 25 hp 4 cycle and will go all day on 5 gallon of
gas.


In a message dated 4/30/2009 9:09:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bud_4444@... writes:
I've looked for an article on the Hawkeye but have not been able to find
one. Can someone please give me a link (links) to more information on the
Hawkeye?

From present and past owners of the Hawkeye I would like to have the pros
and cons of this boat. I'm thinking of building one for my wife and I to
cruise rivers and canals with some port to port trips on the Great Lakes,
weather permiting.

I'm also thinking about using a 9.9 HP Yamaha to get more miles per gallon
of fuel. MPG is more important to me than speed. Any idea how many miles
per gallon I should get with this outboard motor?

If boat is built to plans what is the hull thickness?

Any chance of my emailing present or past owners of the Hawkeye off line
to talk about this boat?

Thanks much for your help.

Bud W."

"Hawkeye: An efficient 18'6'' Bolger step sharpie..."http://www.woodenboatstore.com/Boat-Design-Quarterly-Vol-3/productinfo/197-003/

hth
Graeme




--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Frank and Jeannette <franjanus@...> wrote:
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> i will not block yet i am anxious to get any thing i can about this tug thanks frank
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> Subject: Re: [bolger] back to that hawkeye
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> In a message dated 7/21/2010 7:49:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, franjanus@yahoo. com writes:
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> onley one hawkeye owner came back to me,and now all i get is messages on so many unrelated things my mail box is overloaded.any more halkeye owners out there?i would like to know as much as i can about this tug.thanks frank
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> unfortunately I dont think this site allows mail from only one subject, at least not that I can find, its either block or receive all mail
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onley one hawkeye owner came back to me,and now all i get is messages on so many unrelated things my mail box is overloaded.any more halkeye owners out there?i would like to know as much as i can about this tug.thanks frank