Re: Bolger # 630
As a fellow who had seriously considered building an Illinois, I very quickly recognized the description and then design number above. I believed the boat could be constructed for less than $100,000, following Bolger's thought to build with "semi-skilled" assistance, and careful management of the construction site, and storage of raw materials. The construction of Windermere provides some inspiration. I also considered a conversion to steel/wood something like "Lions Paw", using a tank manufacturer to build the basic hull.
Bruce Hallman's rendering of the boat in Freeship adds additional insight. Bolger's paint scheme makes the boxy Illinois look much like a 1920s/30s Elco. Very sleek and graceful. I thought to build a cardboard model to confirm the paint scheme's effectiveness. I also laid out the center section interior on my driveway using masking tape and then wood, and drywall panels to get a better feel for the actual living space.
If such a solitary life had become my reality, Illinois may well have become my home.
Don
Bruce Hallman's rendering of the boat in Freeship adds additional insight. Bolger's paint scheme makes the boxy Illinois look much like a 1920s/30s Elco. Very sleek and graceful. I thought to build a cardboard model to confirm the paint scheme's effectiveness. I also laid out the center section interior on my driveway using masking tape and then wood, and drywall panels to get a better feel for the actual living space.
If such a solitary life had become my reality, Illinois may well have become my home.
Don
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <hallman@...> wrote:
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>http://www.flickr.com/photos/hallman/tags/illinois/
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <hallman@...> wrote:
I have an fbm file for Illinois here downloaded from the prolific and talented Mr Hallman - he may decide to put up a web page with that file and some views of the vessel.
The MAIB article mentions that:
-Derek
>Bolger's design number 630 is, of course, Illinois. Illinois was featured in the Vol 14 Number 16 issue of Messing About in Boats, published Dec 1, 1998.
> That it pretty interesting! Has this boat ever been subject to one of
> the PB&F magazine articles? It goes without saying that we would love
> a chance to see some details.
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I have an fbm file for Illinois here downloaded from the prolific and talented Mr Hallman - he may decide to put up a web page with that file and some views of the vessel.
The MAIB article mentions that:
> Plans for #630 Illinois on six sheets are $400,and I'm sure Suzanne will correct that if it has somehow changed since 1998.
> available from Phil Bolger & Friends
-Derek
Ed
Any chance that you could make any of the plans available to Bruce
Hallman so he could do one of his 3d projections on freeship??
HJ
shortdottedline wrote:
Any chance that you could make any of the plans available to Bruce
Hallman so he could do one of his 3d projections on freeship??
HJ
shortdottedline wrote:
> Re Bolger creation 630,
> I have since the 80s been fascinated by the mind of Phil Bolger, I had all his books and articles, including his cooperation with Dynamite Payson. In 1994 I contacted Bolger and Friends about an Idea I had been pondering, about a possible long thin European canal boat.
> They responded enthusiastically, and we continued exchanges for a couple of years. During that time I had many notes both from Phil and Suzanne, both in freehand and typewritten. They are (were) fascinating folks, and crammed with ideas.
> The idea morphed into a 63 ft, (any longer required an advanced seamans license) 10 ft beam live-a-board, in the style of a 1920s cruiser. The cartoon was a real natty looking creation.
> I commissioned this and it became Bolger #630. Over a period of months we hammered out the details and the drawing began to arrive. A total of 5 sheets I believe, filled with details and innovative ideas.
> It would be powered by a 4 stroke, (or diesel) 45 to 90 HP large prop, slow turning OB. A bow thruster of a 9.9 hp ob (or perhaps a powerful trolling motor, Phil was not sure this was needed of not). A 4 in X 4 ft "shoe ran the entire length of the craft. Rather like a modified keel. (This kept the weight down low, and made #630 virtually self righting.) As the boat was made of about 300 sheets of ½ in ply, it was unsinkable by design, even if holed. A sizable retractable leeboard was amidships (stbd). large everything room aft, state room, (queen) smaller double bunk room fwd, head , permanent bridge with couch and controls, aft deck covered deck (patio!)
> Alas it never got built, but the 2 yrs I spent dreaming about it were well worth the $s I spent for the commission!
> Sinse this is # 630, it would be well into his body of work which was, what some 850? I hope to post pics of some of the drawings, soon.
> ed
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That it pretty interesting! Has this boat ever been subject to one of
the PB&F magazine articles? It goes without saying that we would love
a chance to see some details.
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 5:46 AM, shortdottedline
<shortdottedline@...> wrote:
the PB&F magazine articles? It goes without saying that we would love
a chance to see some details.
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 5:46 AM, shortdottedline
<shortdottedline@...> wrote:
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> Re Bolger creation 630,
> I have since the 80s been fascinated by the mind of Phil Bolger, I had all his books and articles, including his cooperation with Dynamite Payson. In 1994 I contacted Bolger and Friends about an Idea I had been pondering, about a possible long thin European canal boat.
> They responded enthusiastically, and we continued exchanges for a couple of years. During that time I had many notes both from Phil and Suzanne, both in freehand and typewritten. They are (were) fascinating folks, and crammed with ideas.
> The idea morphed into a 63 ft, (any longer required an advanced seamans license) 10 ft beam live-a-board, in the style of a 1920s cruiser. The cartoon was a real natty looking creation.
> I commissioned this and it became Bolger #630. Over a period of months we hammered out the details and the drawing began to arrive. A total of 5 sheets I believe, filled with details and innovative ideas.
> It would be powered by a 4 stroke, (or diesel) 45 to 90 HP large prop, slow turning OB. A bow thruster of a 9.9 hp ob (or perhaps a powerful trolling motor, Phil was not sure this was needed of not). A 4 in X 4 ft "shoe ran the entire length of the craft. Rather like a modified keel. (This kept the weight down low, and made #630 virtually self righting.) As the boat was made of about 300 sheets of ½ in ply, it was unsinkable by design, even if holed. A sizable retractable leeboard was amidships (stbd). large everything room aft, state room, (queen) smaller double bunk room fwd, head , permanent bridge with couch and controls, aft deck covered deck (patio!)
> Alas it never got built, but the 2 yrs I spent dreaming about it were well worth the $s I spent for the commission!
> Sinse this is # 630, it would be well into his body of work which was, what some 850? I hope to post pics of some of the drawings, soon.
> ed
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Re Bolger creation 630,
I have since the 80s been fascinated by the mind of Phil Bolger, I had all his books and articles, including his cooperation with Dynamite Payson. In 1994 I contacted Bolger and Friends about an Idea I had been pondering, about a possible long thin European canal boat.
They responded enthusiastically, and we continued exchanges for a couple of years. During that time I had many notes both from Phil and Suzanne, both in freehand and typewritten. They are (were) fascinating folks, and crammed with ideas.
The idea morphed into a 63 ft, (any longer required an advanced seamans license) 10 ft beam live-a-board, in the style of a 1920s cruiser. The cartoon was a real natty looking creation.
I commissioned this and it became Bolger #630. Over a period of months we hammered out the details and the drawing began to arrive. A total of 5 sheets I believe, filled with details and innovative ideas.
It would be powered by a 4 stroke, (or diesel) 45 to 90 HP large prop, slow turning OB. A bow thruster of a 9.9 hp ob (or perhaps a powerful trolling motor, Phil was not sure this was needed of not). A 4 in X 4 ft "shoe ran the entire length of the craft. Rather like a modified keel. (This kept the weight down low, and made #630 virtually self righting.) As the boat was made of about 300 sheets of ½ in ply, it was unsinkable by design, even if holed. A sizable retractable leeboard was amidships (stbd). large everything room aft, state room, (queen) smaller double bunk room fwd, head , permanent bridge with couch and controls, aft deck covered deck (patio!)
Alas it never got built, but the 2 yrs I spent dreaming about it were well worth the $s I spent for the commission!
Sinse this is # 630, it would be well into his body of work which was, what some 850? I hope to post pics of some of the drawings, soon.
ed
I have since the 80s been fascinated by the mind of Phil Bolger, I had all his books and articles, including his cooperation with Dynamite Payson. In 1994 I contacted Bolger and Friends about an Idea I had been pondering, about a possible long thin European canal boat.
They responded enthusiastically, and we continued exchanges for a couple of years. During that time I had many notes both from Phil and Suzanne, both in freehand and typewritten. They are (were) fascinating folks, and crammed with ideas.
The idea morphed into a 63 ft, (any longer required an advanced seamans license) 10 ft beam live-a-board, in the style of a 1920s cruiser. The cartoon was a real natty looking creation.
I commissioned this and it became Bolger #630. Over a period of months we hammered out the details and the drawing began to arrive. A total of 5 sheets I believe, filled with details and innovative ideas.
It would be powered by a 4 stroke, (or diesel) 45 to 90 HP large prop, slow turning OB. A bow thruster of a 9.9 hp ob (or perhaps a powerful trolling motor, Phil was not sure this was needed of not). A 4 in X 4 ft "shoe ran the entire length of the craft. Rather like a modified keel. (This kept the weight down low, and made #630 virtually self righting.) As the boat was made of about 300 sheets of ½ in ply, it was unsinkable by design, even if holed. A sizable retractable leeboard was amidships (stbd). large everything room aft, state room, (queen) smaller double bunk room fwd, head , permanent bridge with couch and controls, aft deck covered deck (patio!)
Alas it never got built, but the 2 yrs I spent dreaming about it were well worth the $s I spent for the commission!
Sinse this is # 630, it would be well into his body of work which was, what some 850? I hope to post pics of some of the drawings, soon.
ed