Re: Gloucester Light Dory question

> Back in the 90's I belonged to a rowing club that built one of these, we were able to get the seat rails in the way they were drawn with some struggle after the boat was taken off the mold.

JK>>I had laminated the gunwales on my boat by the time I got around to the seat bearers and there was simply no way to get 5/4 fir to go in the holes shown in the bulkheads. I contacted Phil and he wrote that maybe the boat couldn't be built the way it was drawn. He agreed that the bearers could be made removable, so that's what I did.


I never liked the way the seats were loose and since we didn't do the dowels through the rails as drawn, as they would have made your foot placement rather high, I was one of the few people who found the forward seat just the right length from the center frame to brace my feet(but not barefoot). Rowing single I would put a plastic "cargo box" (rubermaid action packer) in to brace my feet on.

JK>>The seats work fine for me, and the dowel footbraces, but I wish I had made footbraces that were adjustable.


I really think Jim Michelak's Idea for a rowing box set on the floor would work much better

JK>> I'm pretty sure Michalak got this idea from Bolger (who might have got it from Herreshoff). Many of PCB's designs show a ditty box rowing seat and considerably predate Michalak's work. One great thing about this boat is that with stiff gunwales, you can pretty much do whatever you want to the interior for seating or stowage. I've had a lot of ideas for improvements specific to camping and fishing since I built mine.


With the right rowers she was very fast and I thought she was very stable, standing in her never worried me.

JK>> I was really impressed with how much faster the boat is with two rowers. It's a real kick to row that way. With two others aboard, I might stand up, but not with a light load. I'm probably just an unbalanced individual.

Jon
Back in the 90's I belonged to a rowing club that built one of these, we were able to get the seat rails in the way they were drawn with some struggle after the boat was taken off the mold. I never liked the way the seats were loose and since we didn't do the dowels through the rails as drawn, as they would have made your foot placement rather high, I was one of the few people who found the forward seat just the right length from the center frame to brace my feet(but not barefoot). Rowing single I would put a plastic "cargo box" (rubermaid action packer) in to brace my feet on. I really think Jim Michelak's Idea for a rowing box set on the floor would work much better along with those "ribs" type foot braces like the original gull dory running side to side from the fwd frame to the aft frame would work much better. you would just have to come up with a way to lock the seat at different angles as the bottom of the boat has quite a bit of rocker, I am not sure if a seat for the bow rower would work for the stern passenger if it was turned around, and either way you would need a nearly flat seat for the center position. With the right rowers she was very fast and I thought she was very stable, standing in her never worried me.

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "adventures_in_astrophotography" <jon@...> wrote:
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> Greg,
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> > Building a Long Dory on Jon Kolb's site.
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> >http://www.kolbsadventures.com/long_dory_1.htm
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> The Long Light Dory is a fine boat that rows well and carries a good load. We've used ours for fishing, camping, and exercise with great satisfaction. It's light with only one aboard, but not unsafe. My wife and about 100 lbs. of camping gear still don't load the boat much, since it's designed to hold three adults. It's always the prettiest boat at the mountain lakes we use.
>
> Some cautions are in order, however, before you commit to build one. You do not stand up in this boat, unless it's heavily loaded or on the beach. It's not a boat where people can change places at will. The boat weighs 160 lbs. or more and requires a trailer unless you have a long roofed car, a very stout rack, and strong help. The seat bearer makes it difficult for medium size and larger dogs to get comfortable. One solution to this last issue is to make the seat bearer removable and build a second one that stops at the midships bulkhead, leaving the whole aft end of the boat open when required.
>
> Jon
>


Just ran across a Light Dory for sale on my local Craigslist:
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/boa/1912913053.html

Regards,
Joe
Greg,

> Building a Long Dory on Jon Kolb's site.
>
>http://www.kolbsadventures.com/long_dory_1.htm

The Long Light Dory is a fine boat that rows well and carries a good load. We've used ours for fishing, camping, and exercise with great satisfaction. It's light with only one aboard, but not unsafe. My wife and about 100 lbs. of camping gear still don't load the boat much, since it's designed to hold three adults. It's always the prettiest boat at the mountain lakes we use.

Some cautions are in order, however, before you commit to build one. You do not stand up in this boat, unless it's heavily loaded or on the beach. It's not a boat where people can change places at will. The boat weighs 160 lbs. or more and requires a trailer unless you have a long roofed car, a very stout rack, and strong help. The seat bearer makes it difficult for medium size and larger dogs to get comfortable. One solution to this last issue is to make the seat bearer removable and build a second one that stops at the midships bulkhead, leaving the whole aft end of the boat open when required.

Jon
Building a Long Dory on Jon Kolb's site.

http://www.kolbsadventures.com/long_dory_1.htm

HJ

Greg Kay wrote:
Thank you very much; that's what I needed to know. I may have to go with a more traditional Banks Dory or a large skiff, simply for the family carrying capacity.

Greg Kay

From:Bruce Hallman<hallman@...>
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent:Fri, August 20, 2010 11:35:20 AM
Subject:Re: [bolger] Gloucester Light Dory question

 

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:52 AM, gregmkay <gregmkay@...> wrote:
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> First, I'm new; thanks for having me.
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> Secondly, does anyone know the carrying capacity of Gloucester Light Dory?
>

According to my math, 300 pounds will immerse the hull about 4 inches,
and 1,300 pounds would flood her in flat water. In practical terms I
think it is best as a one man boat, or one plus a passenger.

I own a similar sized Bolger double ender and have carried two adults
plus four kids (calm warm water close to shore) lots of fun.


It does better with a load, I have gone with 450 lbs of pax and cargo,
felt fine.

HJ

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Thank you very much; I appreciate that information.

Gregory Kay

From:"Susanne@..." <philbolger@...>
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent:Fri, August 20, 2010 12:22:38 PM
Subject:Re: [bolger] Gloucester Light Dory question

 

Hello Greg,
at 19'6" x 4' the LONG LIGHT DORY (#526)  will carry your load at less bulk and weight and I believe easier lines than the Banks Dories I see around here.  #526 on three sheets (17"x22") is listed at $75 to build one boat.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----
Sent:Friday, August 20, 2010 11:56 AM
Subject:Re: [bolger] Gloucester Light Dory question

 

Thank you very much; that's what I needed to know. I may have to go with a more traditional Banks Dory or a large skiff, simply for the family carrying capacity.

Greg Kay

From:Bruce Hallman <hallman@...>
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent:Fri, August 20, 2010 11:35:20 AM
Subject:Re: [bolger] Gloucester Light Dory question

 

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:52 AM, gregmkay <gregmkay@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> First, I'm new; thanks for having me.
>
> Secondly, does anyone know the carrying capacity of Gloucester Light Dory?
>

According to my math, 300 pounds will immerse the hull about 4 inches,
and 1,300 pounds would flood her in flat water. In practical terms I
think it is best as a one man boat, or one plus a passenger.

I own a similar sized Bolger double ender and have carried two adults
plus four kids (calm warm water close to shore) lots of fun.



Hello Greg,
at 19'6" x 4' the LONG LIGHT DORY (#526)  will carry your load at less bulk and weight and I believe easier lines than the Banks Dories I see around here.  #526 on three sheets (17"x22") is listed at $75 to build one boat.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----
Sent:Friday, August 20, 2010 11:56 AM
Subject:Re: [bolger] Gloucester Light Dory question

 

Thank you very much; that's what I needed to know. I may have to go with a more traditional Banks Dory or a large skiff, simply for the family carrying capacity.

Greg Kay

From:Bruce Hallman <hallman@...>
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent:Fri, August 20, 2010 11:35:20 AM
Subject:Re: [bolger] Gloucester Light Dory question

 

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:52 AM, gregmkay <gregmkay@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> First, I'm new; thanks for having me.
>
> Secondly, does anyone know the carrying capacity of Gloucester Light Dory?
>

According to my math, 300 pounds will immerse the hull about 4 inches,
and 1,300 pounds would flood her in flat water. In practical terms I
think it is best as a one man boat, or one plus a passenger.

I own a similar sized Bolger double ender and have carried two adults
plus four kids (calm warm water close to shore) lots of fun.

Thank you very much; that's what I needed to know. I may have to go with a more traditional Banks Dory or a large skiff, simply for the family carrying capacity.

Greg Kay

From:Bruce Hallman <hallman@...>
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent:Fri, August 20, 2010 11:35:20 AM
Subject:Re: [bolger] Gloucester Light Dory question

 

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:52 AM, gregmkay <gregmkay@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> First, I'm new; thanks for having me.
>
> Secondly, does anyone know the carrying capacity of Gloucester Light Dory?
>

According to my math, 300 pounds will immerse the hull about 4 inches,
and 1,300 pounds would flood her in flat water. In practical terms I
think it is best as a one man boat, or one plus a passenger.

I own a similar sized Bolger double ender and have carried two adults
plus four kids (calm warm water close to shore) lots of fun.


On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:52 AM, gregmkay <gregmkay@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> First, I'm new; thanks for having me.
>
> Secondly, does anyone know the carrying capacity of Gloucester Light Dory?
>


According to my math, 300 pounds will immerse the hull about 4 inches,
and 1,300 pounds would flood her in flat water. In practical terms I
think it is best as a one man boat, or one plus a passenger.

I own a similar sized Bolger double ender and have carried two adults
plus four kids (calm warm water close to shore) lots of fun.
First, I'm new; thanks for having me.

Secondly, does anyone know the carrying capacity of Gloucester Light Dory?