Re: Oldshoe build progresses

I look forward to seeing Oldshoe with a balance lug main. I think that
is a great idea.

One nice thing besides the shorter mast moved further aft the bow- where
there is more buoyancy - is that when it is reefed the COE does not
move forward as much as with a leg-o-mutton main and may be easier to
reef with jiffy reefing.

Nels

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gravelyrider" <denandel01@...> wrote:
>
>
> I want to thank everyone that responded regarding the Oldshoe. This
group has a great amount of wisdom and experience.
>
> Realistically ,I now see that I won't be on the water this fall
(frost warning tonight here). I can see that now. while I still want
to use a balanced lug for this boat, I have 6 months to also make the
19' mast and 72 sq ft leg-o-mutton sail as the plans show. It's only
two 20' 2x4's and a tarp. After hearing your comments regarding this
sail, I realize it's the right thing to do.
>
> Be prepared to see this Oldshoe sailing next spring with 2 different
sail rigs.
>
> I did get the gunwales on and the paint finished over the last week,
but there's still many little , and some not so little, things to do
before the boat can be trailered any distance and used as anything
other than a very slow motorboat.
>

I want to thank everyone that responded regarding the Oldshoe. This group has a great amount of wisdom and experience.

Realistically ,I now see that I won't be on the water this fall (frost warning tonight here). I can see that now. while I still want to use a balanced lug for this boat, I have 6 months to also make the 19' mast and 72 sq ft leg-o-mutton sail as the plans show. It's only two 20' 2x4's and a tarp. After hearing your comments regarding this sail, I realize it's the right thing to do.

Be prepared to see this Oldshoe sailing next spring with 2 different sail rigs.

I did get the gunwales on and the paint finished over the last week, but there's still many little , and some not so little, things to do before the boat can be trailered any distance and used as anything other than a very slow motorboat.

Hi Gravelyrider

Great to see the pictures. It brings a lot back and shows how different people can follow the same plans in different ways to a similar result. I love this boatbuilding.

Returning to your original question, I too was originally shocked and worried by the length of the mast. It really is not that big a deal. It is only arount 3.5 ft longer than a standard mast from Teal or a Brick. You will need at least an extra 6 inches on the mast anyway to allow for the extra height of the sides compared to most of the smaller boats even for the standard leg o mutton.

I made the sail track by screwing a stainless steel strip of the correct width for the sliders to a strip of wood as suggested in the plans and it works quite well. (The 60 odd stainless steel screws cost me more than the strip of steel).

Looking at your picture of the balanced lug, I assume you are placing the mast ahead of Bulkhead A. If you decide to go that way, I would definitely reinforce the structure of the bulkhead as, per plans, you only have a 2 1/2" x 3/4" frame on that bulkhead with no reinforcement in the center as it is designed simply as the middle of the hatch location. It can obviously be solved, but the Bow transom was designed much stronger to take the drive from the mainmast. Also note that the top of BH A is about 6" lower than the gunwales as opposed to the Bow Transom that is level with them at their highest point. If you rest the mast against the forward face of the bulkhead you will need to shim it far enough away for the front edge of the hatch to clear it or redesign that as well.

I'm not sure whether you could keep the original mast location with the balanced lug, but it would certainly give you more space up front for the downhaul and better clearance between the mainsail and the snotter end of the mizzenboom than as drawn as well as solving the above problem of bulkhead strength.

I love the behaviour, simplicity and visibility with the leo-o-mutton but will be very interested to see how you fare if you do go for the balanced lug. The minimal cost of polytarp definitely makes it worth a try and the spars would be pretty simple. Setting it up in the hull to look reasonable and work well is what worries me most about the proposal.

Keep us postesd.

Regards,

David

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gravelyrider" <denandel01@...> wrote:
>
> I added some pic's to my Oldshoe album.
>
> The boat has been test fitted to the trailer, an old 1968 Snowco. Of course, I had to rebuild the thing. It's been sitting in the weeds for 8 years. New lights, bearings, blah, blah. It's a drop axle trailer with 1000 GVW so It should work great.
>
> I made the mizzen from Polysail. It fits well and looks like it will work.
>
> I'm working on the gunwales and will finish the paint this weekend (I hope).
>
> The Main is what's got my shorts in a knot. I;d like to go with a balanced lug rig, like a Martha Jane. I have the mast and spar's all made and waiting, but I just can't seem to get started building the sail. I don;t want to go with the original rig 'cause I don't want to build a 19' mast for an 11' 6" boat. What Iam toying with is using a 59 leg-o-mutton I have for the first few trials. It's the same size as the spec'd sail with one reef in, and I can cob a mast step and partner for it in about an hour. If it was July, I wouldn't be worried about the main, but the bad weather is creeping in soon.
>

David,

Yes,location of those drain holes is important, easy enough for you to add and plug the others if you wish. I know that the heeling contributed to water coming into that aft compartment, added with the trim being more to the aft of the boat.

Admittedly, I have alot to learn in sailing this type of rig. I may have been pinching too close to the wind. The boat certainly favors reaching and running. I know that I had plenty of way on and heeled maybe 7 degs. Leeway was a bit disconcerting at first. I was also having to back the main to get her to come about and in doing, she would fall off a good amount before getting way back on and digging her shoulder in. Could all be in lack of skill in this skipper.

Sure would love to hear some good advice from you seasoned sailors out there dealing with this type of rig.

Regards,

Dennis
"Pearl" out of Bellingham, Wa.

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dir_cobb" <dir_cobb@...> wrote:
>
> Dennis
>
> I stand corrected... I remember now I deviated from the plans in respect of the stern well drainage holes. I placed them one each side of the stern post and not at the outside edges of the well as shown in the plans. I think this was after a comment from you. There is still a trim issue and some water gets in, but nothing like your experience. I was more worried by water gushing in the bow foot step than by the water accumulating in the stern well. I think I will definitely put in some sort of cover if I don't eliminate the step altogether.
>
> The other change is that I used 5 sheets of 3/8" ply and 3 of 1/4" because I could only get the 3 good 1/4 inch sheets at that stage. Native exterior BC is about the best we get here in Chile. This means the boat probably weighs an extra 40lbs or so, due to additional thickness and the ply is heavier than most marine plys anyway.
>
> I am working on slightly redesigning the motor mount, as my long shaft motor tends to drag its foot when in the raised position. This might not happen with a short shaft. I use a 3.5hp Tohatsu direct drive (no neutral or reverse) and find it easily manageable, despite having to angle it slightly back to clear the rudder when reversing.
>
> I didn't find leeway to windward as bad as you describe. I find she doesn't like being pinched too much and is much happier sailed a little looser. I found playing the balance of main and mizzen fascinating, but if you overdo it, I suppose you can make a lot of leeway by pointing further into the wind than you are actually able to sail.
>
> When building Oldshoe, I appreciated Phil Bolgers capacity and genius in the way the design goes together and works. I agree with you that he did a good one with this design. The problem is that it is so unconventional that most people can't believe it. She certainly draws attention. I think I was the most photograhed boat on the lake last summer and I was far from the most expensive.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> David
> Santiago, Chile
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dennislancaster36" <dennislancaster36@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi David,
> >
> > I can echo much of what you said about your Oldshoe. I have not experienced vast quantities of water coming in through the bow foot step hole. What does come in drains out quickly enough. What I have experienced is water filling the aft compartment, not draining out quickly enough and if you are sitting on the leeward side, water can migrate onto that leeward seat and you get a wet butt (normal for sailing). It all seems to be about trim and keeping the boat level fore and aft... it all works, even with a load. I am considering plugging those aft compartment drain holes.. but should I ever get pooped, I will have a load of water to get rid of. That motor mount notch is low, even with the hull rocker. I did not like the rudder shoe design, so I had a 1/4" thick stainless plate made.. won't have any problems with that. One thing I do want to comment about is that the Shoe does have a good amount of leeway going to weather. That shallow keel doesn't give a great amount of bite for tracking on course. She could use a center board or leeboards. I've just taken the attitude that she is truly a gentlemans sailboat, I'm not racing and who cares if it takes me longer to beat upwind. If I run out of time, I just kick on the outboard and make like a speedboat. Off the wind, she is a rocket. Sure draws a ton of attention down at the lake. I have not had to reef her yet. A true joy to sail. Phil did a good one with this design.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dennis
> > "Pearl" out of Bellingham, WA
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dir_cobb" <dir_cobb@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I built Oldshoe from scratch in about 6 months including polytarp sails sticking pretty much to plan. I don't believe I deviated much from plans in any respect and certainly kept the spars and sail plan as specified (including the home made sail track for the main mast). However, I didn't bother with the reef points as I sail mainly in summer on a smallish lake (theoretically with not too much wind).
> > >
> > > I got caught in an unexpected extremely windy situation where all the centerboarders were capsizing and, despite the lack of reefpoints and travelling at around hull speed all the time, Oldshoe was extremely stable. The mast creaked quite a bit but all in all, everything behaved fine. The hull gives a dagerously dry and safe sensation.
> > >
> > > I found the problem was that I developed a tendency to overloading because children and adults that did not want to go out in traditional sailing dinghies for fear of capsizing would stand by and beg to go out with me. Over five or so weeks I only got to sail solo once or twice and quite often ended up with two or three adults and a few kids on board, which is really too much. There is so much space it is difiicult to explain to the additional bystander that you can't overload.
> > >
> > > The main problem I find is that overpowered in a chop she tends to slam into waves and let water in through the bow step in worrying quantities, burying the bow progressively, (it may be that my bow well drain holes (3/8") are too small). The problem increases the more water comes in as the bow buries progressively further. It sorts as soon as you stop slamming into waves or manage to trim her better
> > >
> > > The only breakage I had was the rudder step (I built from the original plans bought from a company that shall remain nameless and I don't know if PCB reviewed these later). I discovered it had broken when I took her out of the water at the endo of the season. I have now made a laminated ply version and will see how that does.
> > >
> > > I solved transporting the 19' mast by making a mast support that fits in the mast step and is held in place by the main mast fid. It carries the top of the mainmast over the tail of my tow vehicle (I drive a Landrover Defender which is 7' tall) and it really doesn't bother me at all. The length, once in the boat is no problem at all.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gravelyrider" <denandel01@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I added some pic's to my Oldshoe album.
> > > >
> > > > The boat has been test fitted to the trailer, an old 1968 Snowco. Of course, I had to rebuild the thing. It's been sitting in the weeds for 8 years. New lights, bearings, blah, blah. It's a drop axle trailer with 1000 GVW so It should work great.
> > > >
> > > > I made the mizzen from Polysail. It fits well and looks like it will work.
> > > >
> > > > I'm working on the gunwales and will finish the paint this weekend (I hope).
> > > >
> > > > The Main is what's got my shorts in a knot. I;d like to go with a balanced lug rig, like a Martha Jane. I have the mast and spar's all made and waiting, but I just can't seem to get started building the sail. I don;t want to go with the original rig 'cause I don't want to build a 19' mast for an 11' 6" boat. What Iam toying with is using a 59 leg-o-mutton I have for the first few trials. It's the same size as the spec'd sail with one reef in, and I can cob a mast step and partner for it in about an hour. If it was July, I wouldn't be worried about the main, but the bad weather is creeping in soon.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Dennis

I stand corrected... I remember now I deviated from the plans in respect of the stern well drainage holes. I placed them one each side of the stern post and not at the outside edges of the well as shown in the plans. I think this was after a comment from you. There is still a trim issue and some water gets in, but nothing like your experience. I was more worried by water gushing in the bow foot step than by the water accumulating in the stern well. I think I will definitely put in some sort of cover if I don't eliminate the step altogether.

The other change is that I used 5 sheets of 3/8" ply and 3 of 1/4" because I could only get the 3 good 1/4 inch sheets at that stage. Native exterior BC is about the best we get here in Chile. This means the boat probably weighs an extra 40lbs or so, due to additional thickness and the ply is heavier than most marine plys anyway.

I am working on slightly redesigning the motor mount, as my long shaft motor tends to drag its foot when in the raised position. This might not happen with a short shaft. I use a 3.5hp Tohatsu direct drive (no neutral or reverse) and find it easily manageable, despite having to angle it slightly back to clear the rudder when reversing.

I didn't find leeway to windward as bad as you describe. I find she doesn't like being pinched too much and is much happier sailed a little looser. I found playing the balance of main and mizzen fascinating, but if you overdo it, I suppose you can make a lot of leeway by pointing further into the wind than you are actually able to sail.

When building Oldshoe, I appreciated Phil Bolgers capacity and genius in the way the design goes together and works. I agree with you that he did a good one with this design. The problem is that it is so unconventional that most people can't believe it. She certainly draws attention. I think I was the most photograhed boat on the lake last summer and I was far from the most expensive.

Regards,


David
Santiago, Chile

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dennislancaster36" <dennislancaster36@...> wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> I can echo much of what you said about your Oldshoe. I have not experienced vast quantities of water coming in through the bow foot step hole. What does come in drains out quickly enough. What I have experienced is water filling the aft compartment, not draining out quickly enough and if you are sitting on the leeward side, water can migrate onto that leeward seat and you get a wet butt (normal for sailing). It all seems to be about trim and keeping the boat level fore and aft... it all works, even with a load. I am considering plugging those aft compartment drain holes.. but should I ever get pooped, I will have a load of water to get rid of. That motor mount notch is low, even with the hull rocker. I did not like the rudder shoe design, so I had a 1/4" thick stainless plate made.. won't have any problems with that. One thing I do want to comment about is that the Shoe does have a good amount of leeway going to weather. That shallow keel doesn't give a great amount of bite for tracking on course. She could use a center board or leeboards. I've just taken the attitude that she is truly a gentlemans sailboat, I'm not racing and who cares if it takes me longer to beat upwind. If I run out of time, I just kick on the outboard and make like a speedboat. Off the wind, she is a rocket. Sure draws a ton of attention down at the lake. I have not had to reef her yet. A true joy to sail. Phil did a good one with this design.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dennis
> "Pearl" out of Bellingham, WA
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dir_cobb" <dir_cobb@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I built Oldshoe from scratch in about 6 months including polytarp sails sticking pretty much to plan. I don't believe I deviated much from plans in any respect and certainly kept the spars and sail plan as specified (including the home made sail track for the main mast). However, I didn't bother with the reef points as I sail mainly in summer on a smallish lake (theoretically with not too much wind).
> >
> > I got caught in an unexpected extremely windy situation where all the centerboarders were capsizing and, despite the lack of reefpoints and travelling at around hull speed all the time, Oldshoe was extremely stable. The mast creaked quite a bit but all in all, everything behaved fine. The hull gives a dagerously dry and safe sensation.
> >
> > I found the problem was that I developed a tendency to overloading because children and adults that did not want to go out in traditional sailing dinghies for fear of capsizing would stand by and beg to go out with me. Over five or so weeks I only got to sail solo once or twice and quite often ended up with two or three adults and a few kids on board, which is really too much. There is so much space it is difiicult to explain to the additional bystander that you can't overload.
> >
> > The main problem I find is that overpowered in a chop she tends to slam into waves and let water in through the bow step in worrying quantities, burying the bow progressively, (it may be that my bow well drain holes (3/8") are too small). The problem increases the more water comes in as the bow buries progressively further. It sorts as soon as you stop slamming into waves or manage to trim her better
> >
> > The only breakage I had was the rudder step (I built from the original plans bought from a company that shall remain nameless and I don't know if PCB reviewed these later). I discovered it had broken when I took her out of the water at the endo of the season. I have now made a laminated ply version and will see how that does.
> >
> > I solved transporting the 19' mast by making a mast support that fits in the mast step and is held in place by the main mast fid. It carries the top of the mainmast over the tail of my tow vehicle (I drive a Landrover Defender which is 7' tall) and it really doesn't bother me at all. The length, once in the boat is no problem at all.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gravelyrider" <denandel01@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I added some pic's to my Oldshoe album.
> > >
> > > The boat has been test fitted to the trailer, an old 1968 Snowco. Of course, I had to rebuild the thing. It's been sitting in the weeds for 8 years. New lights, bearings, blah, blah. It's a drop axle trailer with 1000 GVW so It should work great.
> > >
> > > I made the mizzen from Polysail. It fits well and looks like it will work.
> > >
> > > I'm working on the gunwales and will finish the paint this weekend (I hope).
> > >
> > > The Main is what's got my shorts in a knot. I;d like to go with a balanced lug rig, like a Martha Jane. I have the mast and spar's all made and waiting, but I just can't seem to get started building the sail. I don;t want to go with the original rig 'cause I don't want to build a 19' mast for an 11' 6" boat. What Iam toying with is using a 59 leg-o-mutton I have for the first few trials. It's the same size as the spec'd sail with one reef in, and I can cob a mast step and partner for it in about an hour. If it was July, I wouldn't be worried about the main, but the bad weather is creeping in soon.
> > >
> >
>

Hi David,

I can echo much of what you said about your Oldshoe. I have not experienced vast quantities of water coming in through the bow foot step hole. What does come in drains out quickly enough. What I have experienced is water filling the aft compartment, not draining out quickly enough and if you are sitting on the leeward side, water can migrate onto that leeward seat and you get a wet butt (normal for sailing). It all seems to be about trim and keeping the boat level fore and aft... it all works, even with a load. I am considering plugging those aft compartment drain holes.. but should I ever get pooped, I will have a load of water to get rid of. That motor mount notch is low, even with the hull rocker. I did not like the rudder shoe design, so I had a 1/4" thick stainless plate made.. won't have any problems with that. One thing I do want to comment about is that the Shoe does have a good amount of leeway going to weather. That shallow keel doesn't give a great amount of bite for tracking on course. She could use a center board or leeboards. I've just taken the attitude that she is truly a gentlemans sailboat, I'm not racing and who cares if it takes me longer to beat upwind. If I run out of time, I just kick on the outboard and make like a speedboat. Off the wind, she is a rocket. Sure draws a ton of attention down at the lake. I have not had to reef her yet. A true joy to sail. Phil did a good one with this design.

Regards,

Dennis
"Pearl" out of Bellingham, WA

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dir_cobb" <dir_cobb@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I built Oldshoe from scratch in about 6 months including polytarp sails sticking pretty much to plan. I don't believe I deviated much from plans in any respect and certainly kept the spars and sail plan as specified (including the home made sail track for the main mast). However, I didn't bother with the reef points as I sail mainly in summer on a smallish lake (theoretically with not too much wind).
>
> I got caught in an unexpected extremely windy situation where all the centerboarders were capsizing and, despite the lack of reefpoints and travelling at around hull speed all the time, Oldshoe was extremely stable. The mast creaked quite a bit but all in all, everything behaved fine. The hull gives a dagerously dry and safe sensation.
>
> I found the problem was that I developed a tendency to overloading because children and adults that did not want to go out in traditional sailing dinghies for fear of capsizing would stand by and beg to go out with me. Over five or so weeks I only got to sail solo once or twice and quite often ended up with two or three adults and a few kids on board, which is really too much. There is so much space it is difiicult to explain to the additional bystander that you can't overload.
>
> The main problem I find is that overpowered in a chop she tends to slam into waves and let water in through the bow step in worrying quantities, burying the bow progressively, (it may be that my bow well drain holes (3/8") are too small). The problem increases the more water comes in as the bow buries progressively further. It sorts as soon as you stop slamming into waves or manage to trim her better
>
> The only breakage I had was the rudder step (I built from the original plans bought from a company that shall remain nameless and I don't know if PCB reviewed these later). I discovered it had broken when I took her out of the water at the endo of the season. I have now made a laminated ply version and will see how that does.
>
> I solved transporting the 19' mast by making a mast support that fits in the mast step and is held in place by the main mast fid. It carries the top of the mainmast over the tail of my tow vehicle (I drive a Landrover Defender which is 7' tall) and it really doesn't bother me at all. The length, once in the boat is no problem at all.
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
> David
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gravelyrider" <denandel01@> wrote:
> >
> > I added some pic's to my Oldshoe album.
> >
> > The boat has been test fitted to the trailer, an old 1968 Snowco. Of course, I had to rebuild the thing. It's been sitting in the weeds for 8 years. New lights, bearings, blah, blah. It's a drop axle trailer with 1000 GVW so It should work great.
> >
> > I made the mizzen from Polysail. It fits well and looks like it will work.
> >
> > I'm working on the gunwales and will finish the paint this weekend (I hope).
> >
> > The Main is what's got my shorts in a knot. I;d like to go with a balanced lug rig, like a Martha Jane. I have the mast and spar's all made and waiting, but I just can't seem to get started building the sail. I don;t want to go with the original rig 'cause I don't want to build a 19' mast for an 11' 6" boat. What Iam toying with is using a 59 leg-o-mutton I have for the first few trials. It's the same size as the spec'd sail with one reef in, and I can cob a mast step and partner for it in about an hour. If it was July, I wouldn't be worried about the main, but the bad weather is creeping in soon.
> >
>

Hi

I built Oldshoe from scratch in about 6 months including polytarp sails sticking pretty much to plan. I don't believe I deviated much from plans in any respect and certainly kept the spars and sail plan as specified (including the home made sail track for the main mast). However, I didn't bother with the reef points as I sail mainly in summer on a smallish lake (theoretically with not too much wind).

I got caught in an unexpected extremely windy situation where all the centerboarders were capsizing and, despite the lack of reefpoints and travelling at around hull speed all the time, Oldshoe was extremely stable. The mast creaked quite a bit but all in all, everything behaved fine. The hull gives a dagerously dry and safe sensation.

I found the problem was that I developed a tendency to overloading because children and adults that did not want to go out in traditional sailing dinghies for fear of capsizing would stand by and beg to go out with me. Over five or so weeks I only got to sail solo once or twice and quite often ended up with two or three adults and a few kids on board, which is really too much. There is so much space it is difiicult to explain to the additional bystander that you can't overload.

The main problem I find is that overpowered in a chop she tends to slam into waves and let water in through the bow step in worrying quantities, burying the bow progressively, (it may be that my bow well drain holes (3/8") are too small). The problem increases the more water comes in as the bow buries progressively further. It sorts as soon as you stop slamming into waves or manage to trim her better

The only breakage I had was the rudder step (I built from the original plans bought from a company that shall remain nameless and I don't know if PCB reviewed these later). I discovered it had broken when I took her out of the water at the endo of the season. I have now made a laminated ply version and will see how that does.

I solved transporting the 19' mast by making a mast support that fits in the mast step and is held in place by the main mast fid. It carries the top of the mainmast over the tail of my tow vehicle (I drive a Landrover Defender which is 7' tall) and it really doesn't bother me at all. The length, once in the boat is no problem at all.

Kind regards,


David

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gravelyrider" <denandel01@...> wrote:
>
> I added some pic's to my Oldshoe album.
>
> The boat has been test fitted to the trailer, an old 1968 Snowco. Of course, I had to rebuild the thing. It's been sitting in the weeds for 8 years. New lights, bearings, blah, blah. It's a drop axle trailer with 1000 GVW so It should work great.
>
> I made the mizzen from Polysail. It fits well and looks like it will work.
>
> I'm working on the gunwales and will finish the paint this weekend (I hope).
>
> The Main is what's got my shorts in a knot. I;d like to go with a balanced lug rig, like a Martha Jane. I have the mast and spar's all made and waiting, but I just can't seem to get started building the sail. I don;t want to go with the original rig 'cause I don't want to build a 19' mast for an 11' 6" boat. What Iam toying with is using a 59 leg-o-mutton I have for the first few trials. It's the same size as the spec'd sail with one reef in, and I can cob a mast step and partner for it in about an hour. If it was July, I wouldn't be worried about the main, but the bad weather is creeping in soon.
>

As the owner/builder of an OldShoe, I can attest that the standard sail design is very adequate for the boat. She is not over-powered and the main is easy to manage. Interesting idea, using a balanced lug rig. Your Shoe looks like its coming along nicely.

Best regards,

Dennis
Old Shoe "Pearl"
Bellingham, WA.

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gravelyrider" <denandel01@...> wrote:
>
> I added some pic's to my Oldshoe album.
>
> The boat has been test fitted to the trailer, an old 1968 Snowco. Of course, I had to rebuild the thing. It's been sitting in the weeds for 8 years. New lights, bearings, blah, blah. It's a drop axle trailer with 1000 GVW so It should work great.
>
> I made the mizzen from Polysail. It fits well and looks like it will work.
>
> I'm working on the gunwales and will finish the paint this weekend (I hope).
>
> The Main is what's got my shorts in a knot. I;d like to go with a balanced lug rig, like a Martha Jane. I have the mast and spar's all made and waiting, but I just can't seem to get started building the sail. I don;t want to go with the original rig 'cause I don't want to build a 19' mast for an 11' 6" boat. What Iam toying with is using a 59 leg-o-mutton I have for the first few trials. It's the same size as the spec'd sail with one reef in, and I can cob a mast step and partner for it in about an hour. If it was July, I wouldn't be worried about the main, but the bad weather is creeping in soon.
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I added some pic's to my Oldshoe album.

The boat has been test fitted to the trailer, an old 1968 Snowco. Of course, I had to rebuild the thing. It's been sitting in the weeds for 8 years. New lights, bearings, blah, blah. It's a drop axle trailer with 1000 GVW so It should work great.

I made the mizzen from Polysail. It fits well and looks like it will work.

I'm working on the gunwales and will finish the paint this weekend (I hope).

The Main is what's got my shorts in a knot. I;d like to go with a balanced lug rig, like a Martha Jane. I have the mast and spar's all made and waiting, but I just can't seem to get started building the sail. I don;t want to go with the original rig 'cause I don't want to build a 19' mast for an 11' 6" boat. What Iam toying with is using a 59 leg-o-mutton I have for the first few trials. It's the same size as the spec'd sail with one reef in, and I can cob a mast step and partner for it in about an hour. If it was July, I wouldn't be worried about the main, but the bad weather is creeping in soon.