Re: Chebacco/Romilly and the Payson Pirogue
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, "Samson family" <Bill.Samson@t...> wrote:
sea,
I don't know about where you are, but here "reliable weather forecast"
is an oxymoron. :-)
Ralph Wight
> Re the Chebacco/Romilly question - I agree with almost all theopinions that
> have been expressed. I don't think I'd take either boat out toopen
sea,
> without a reliable, favourable weather forecast.Bill,
I don't know about where you are, but here "reliable weather forecast"
is an oxymoron. :-)
Ralph Wight
Hi,
Lotsa interesting stuff this time!
Re the Chebacco/Romilly question - I agree with almost all the opinions that
have been expressed. I don't think I'd take either boat out to open sea,
without a reliable, favourable weather forecast.
I have experience with the Chebacco, none with Romilly. Chebacco is a fair
weather boat - at her best in flat water. Having a flattish bottom,
pounding can happen, but nothing like as severe as in a sharpie. I've been
very pleased with the way the Chebacco can handle a chop, even if it is a
bit noisy!
My model Chebacco could be heeled 90 degrees, and still get back up. I
suspect Romilly would get a bit further - BUT no boat is self-righting from
all angles. If it self-rights from, say, 125 degrees, you're doing very
well.
It'd take a very strong wind to heel a Chebacco to near 90 degrees - much
stronger than you should be out in! - AND a big sea would be needed to knock
her right over, having reached this point.
My personal approach is that when the Chebacco gets to be too much of a
handful, with two reefs in, I take down the sails and use the outboard to
get home. A long-shaft outboard is best in rough water - less likely to
come out of the water when the boat pitches.
On the subject of the Payson Pirogue - I'm delighted to hear that David
Galvin has built one, too. It was my first Bolger boat, and I've had more
fun with it than with any boat before or since. Stick it on the car roof,
and forget it until you reach a tempting bit of water. Two will fit in it
for very pleasant flat-water trips. Jim Michalak built one, and then
developed Toto from his experience with it, as a canoe to more accurately
reflect his own needs. (Is that correct, Jim?)
Anyway - If anyone's dithering about what big boat to build, they could do
worse than make a Payson Pirogue for the time being. They might even find
that they don't really want anything else!
Bill Samson [who's first love is the Payson Pirogue]
Lotsa interesting stuff this time!
Re the Chebacco/Romilly question - I agree with almost all the opinions that
have been expressed. I don't think I'd take either boat out to open sea,
without a reliable, favourable weather forecast.
I have experience with the Chebacco, none with Romilly. Chebacco is a fair
weather boat - at her best in flat water. Having a flattish bottom,
pounding can happen, but nothing like as severe as in a sharpie. I've been
very pleased with the way the Chebacco can handle a chop, even if it is a
bit noisy!
My model Chebacco could be heeled 90 degrees, and still get back up. I
suspect Romilly would get a bit further - BUT no boat is self-righting from
all angles. If it self-rights from, say, 125 degrees, you're doing very
well.
It'd take a very strong wind to heel a Chebacco to near 90 degrees - much
stronger than you should be out in! - AND a big sea would be needed to knock
her right over, having reached this point.
My personal approach is that when the Chebacco gets to be too much of a
handful, with two reefs in, I take down the sails and use the outboard to
get home. A long-shaft outboard is best in rough water - less likely to
come out of the water when the boat pitches.
On the subject of the Payson Pirogue - I'm delighted to hear that David
Galvin has built one, too. It was my first Bolger boat, and I've had more
fun with it than with any boat before or since. Stick it on the car roof,
and forget it until you reach a tempting bit of water. Two will fit in it
for very pleasant flat-water trips. Jim Michalak built one, and then
developed Toto from his experience with it, as a canoe to more accurately
reflect his own needs. (Is that correct, Jim?)
Anyway - If anyone's dithering about what big boat to build, they could do
worse than make a Payson Pirogue for the time being. They might even find
that they don't really want anything else!
Bill Samson [who's first love is the Payson Pirogue]