Re: [bolger] Re: fiberglass butt joints & a note on Toto

Garth,

Thanks for the feedback. I'll check the blueprints
tonight.

Bill

--- Garth Battista <garth@...> wrote:

>
> > I'm just starting a Michalak Toto and have a
> question
> > regarding fiberglass butt joints.
> >
>
> To Bill and anyone else starting a Toto:
>
> This is a little thing, and not really Bolger, but
> maybe worth
> mentioning. When I cut all the panels as indicated
> for my Toto this
> spring, the bilge panel overlapped the side panel in
> a weird way. I e-
> mailed Jim Michalak about it and he said, yes,
> there's a small
> problem with the blueprints. (Maybe he's corrected
> it on sets sent
> out since then?)
> For what it's worth, here's my note to him.
> Basically, you
> should recalculate the dimensions of the bilge panel
> at each frame
> location (to match the dimension of the frame
> there), and draw the
> panel slightly differently than indicated.
>
> Here's my note to Jim:
> >>>
> I recently bought the Toto plans from you and am in
> the midst of
> building it. I cut all the frames and bulkheads and
> panels to your
> measurements on the blueprint, and then went to fit
> them all
> together. Everything looked great as the sides went
> onto the frames
> and the gunwales got fit on.
>
> Then when it came time to install the bilge panels,
> I noticed that
> the aft edge of the bilge panel was too wide for the
> portion of the
> transom that was to receive it. I thought, did I
> really cut it that
> bad? It overlaps the side by about �". Then I
> checked your
> drawing
> and noticed that if you work out the length of that
> angled section of
> the transom, using the right triangle indicated by
> some of the given
> dimensions of the transom, that section which is to
> receive the end
> of the bilge panel comes out to exactly 4.717". But
> the bilge
> panel
> is explicitly 5" wide there. Hence my overlap.
>
> Then I checked the match-up of the angled section of
> the other frames
> and bulkheads vs. the dimension of the bilge panel
> at their locations
> � and bulkhead 10 is also a bit undersized to
> receive the
> indicated
> bilge panel (7.846" on the bulkhead vs. 8.125" on
> the panel)
> and the
> other bulkhead/frames (at 7, 4, and 2) are all a bit
> bigger than the
> bilge panel � which is much easier to deal with.
>
> I'll just recut the bilge panel to try to make it
> fit the space
> available for it.
> >>>>
>
> Just a note based on my experience: recutting the
> panel to fit the
> frames after the fact makes for curves that aren't
> quite fair. Best
> to fix it early on.
>
> For what it's worth,
> Garth
>
>
>
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