Re: Nymph - Insight appreciated

David, I'll take a look tomorrow to be sure, but I think I pivoted it through a block at the vertical center outside the side panel, just forward of the center frame. This requires a bearing strip just under the gunwale and above the upper chine. See below for the door knob tensioner. Sorry, no photos. Jim Michalak's leeboard is a bit different. See his book for Mayflay's, and/or his website, somewhere in his archives.

Joe T

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dir_cobb" <dir_cobb@...> wrote:
>
> Joe
>
> Where did you pivot the leeboard on Nymph? Gunwale, leeboard rest or in between? I have the book but I've been scratching my head about where to pivot.
>
> Any pictures of your version?
>
> Regards,
>
>
> David
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Joe T" <scsbmsjoe@> wrote:
> >
> > David, Yes, I too busted the leeboard fingers on my Teal. Hasn't everyone? But it was easy to fix. I built a Nymph in 1998 with Michalak's pivoting leeboard, on the PORT side so the bolt will release tension when struck. It is tensioned with a fancy old glass doorknob that just happens to fit a 3/8ths bolt. A knob or wing nut from your local hardware store would do as well. While you are at it, use Jim's kick up rudder blade as well. See his book, available at Duckworks.
> >
> > Your Nymph sounds like a great boat for the kids. I recall Mark Klopfenstien's two boys having a ball in their Nymphs at the first ever SCSBMS messabout in April 1990.
> >
> > Joe T
> >
>

For goodness sakes, just buy the plans from Dynamite!

On Oct 13, 2010, at 9:46 AM, prairiedog2332 wrote:

 

David,

Thanks - got it this time. I was looking at the wrong interval.

I heard that Dynamite was quite upset about some of the editing in that
book.

Sorry to have put you through all that typing. I appreciate your
patience!

Nels

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dir_cobb" <dir_cobb@...> wrote:
>
> Nels
>
> The dimensions from stern to bow (at 12" intervals except the last)
for bottom of the side panel of the standard Nymph are:
>
> 0) 8 3/4"
> 1) 11 5/8"
> 2) 1' 1 7/8"
> 3) 1' 3 1/8"
> 4) 1' 3 3/16"
> 5) 1' 1 13/16"
> 6) 11 1/4"
> 7) 7 3/4"
> 8) 4 3/16"
>
> The dimensions given in the book for the same panel of Reubens Nymph
are:
>
> 0) 8 3/4"
> 1) 11 5/8"
> 2) 1' 1 7/8"
> 3) 1' 3 1/8"
> 4) 1' 3 3/16"
> 5) 1' 3 3/16"*** should be: 5) 1' 1 13/16"
> 6) 11 1/4"
> 7) 7 3/4"
> 8) 4 3/16"
>
> I believe measurement (5) is a transcription error, as (a)the designs
are supposed to be identical except for the width, (b)the given
dimension bears no relation to the scale of the drawing if you use your
scale rule and (c) you cannot produce a smooth curve using the given
dimensions.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> David
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "prairiedog2332" arvent@ wrote:
> >
> > David,
> >
> > You wrote:
> >
> > 'The dimension says 1'3 3/16" as for the central
> > measurement, whereas it should be 1'1 13/16" as is the case for the
> > original
> > Nymph.'
> >
> > Should it not be 1'3 13/16" ?
> >
> > Good point about the sprit boom length as I was wondering how long
that
> > should be.
> >
> > Nels
> >
>

David,

Thanks - got it this time. I was looking at the wrong interval.

I heard that Dynamite was quite upset about some of the editing in that
book.

Sorry to have put you through all that typing. I appreciate your
patience!

Nels

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dir_cobb" <dir_cobb@...> wrote:
>
> Nels
>
> The dimensions from stern to bow (at 12" intervals except the last)
for bottom of the side panel of the standard Nymph are:
>
> 0) 8 3/4"
> 1) 11 5/8"
> 2) 1' 1 7/8"
> 3) 1' 3 1/8"
> 4) 1' 3 3/16"
> 5) 1' 1 13/16"
> 6) 11 1/4"
> 7) 7 3/4"
> 8) 4 3/16"
>
> The dimensions given in the book for the same panel of Reubens Nymph
are:
>
> 0) 8 3/4"
> 1) 11 5/8"
> 2) 1' 1 7/8"
> 3) 1' 3 1/8"
> 4) 1' 3 3/16"
> 5) 1' 3 3/16"*** should be: 5) 1' 1 13/16"
> 6) 11 1/4"
> 7) 7 3/4"
> 8) 4 3/16"
>
> I believe measurement (5) is a transcription error, as (a)the designs
are supposed to be identical except for the width, (b)the given
dimension bears no relation to the scale of the drawing if you use your
scale rule and (c) you cannot produce a smooth curve using the given
dimensions.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> David
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "prairiedog2332" arvent@ wrote:
> >
> > David,
> >
> > You wrote:
> >
> > 'The dimension says 1'3 3/16" as for the central
> > measurement, whereas it should be 1'1 13/16" as is the case for the
> > original
> > Nymph.'
> >
> > Should it not be 1'3 13/16" ?
> >
> > Good point about the sprit boom length as I was wondering how long
that
> > should be.
> >
> > Nels
> >
>

Nels

The dimensions from stern to bow (at 12" intervals except the last) for bottom of the side panel of the standard Nymph are:

0) 8 3/4"
1) 11 5/8"
2) 1' 1 7/8"
3) 1' 3 1/8"
4) 1' 3 3/16"
5) 1' 1 13/16"
6) 11 1/4"
7) 7 3/4"
8) 4 3/16"

The dimensions given in the book for the same panel of Reubens Nymph are:

0) 8 3/4"
1) 11 5/8"
2) 1' 1 7/8"
3) 1' 3 1/8"
4) 1' 3 3/16"
5) 1' 3 3/16"*** should be: 5) 1' 1 13/16"
6) 11 1/4"
7) 7 3/4"
8) 4 3/16"

I believe measurement (5) is a transcription error, as (a)the designs are supposed to be identical except for the width, (b)the given dimension bears no relation to the scale of the drawing if you use your scale rule and (c) you cannot produce a smooth curve using the given dimensions.

Regards,


David

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "prairiedog2332" <arvent@...> wrote:
>
> David,
>
> You wrote:
>
> 'The dimension says 1'3 3/16" as for the central
> measurement, whereas it should be 1'1 13/16" as is the case for the
> original
> Nymph.'
>
> Should it not be 1'3 13/16" ?
>
> Good point about the sprit boom length as I was wondering how long that
> should be.
>
> Nels
>

David,

You wrote:

'The dimension says 1'3 3/16" as for the central
measurement, whereas it should be 1'1 13/16" as is the case for the
original
Nymph.'

Should it not be 1'3 13/16" ?

Good point about the sprit boom length as I was wondering how long that
should be.

Nels

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dir_cobb" <dir_cobb@...> wrote:
>
> Doug
>
> I haven't tried rowing either but at both widths the design bobs over
waves with incredible alacrity under sail. I am convinced that the
design is both very safe, seaworthy and dry reasonably handled.

Joe

Where did you pivot the leeboard on Nymph? Gunwale, leeboard rest or in between? I have the book but I've been scratching my head about where to pivot.

Any pictures of your version?

Regards,


David

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Joe T" <scsbmsjoe@...> wrote:
>
> David, Yes, I too busted the leeboard fingers on my Teal. Hasn't everyone? But it was easy to fix. I built a Nymph in 1998 with Michalak's pivoting leeboard, on the PORT side so the bolt will release tension when struck. It is tensioned with a fancy old glass doorknob that just happens to fit a 3/8ths bolt. A knob or wing nut from your local hardware store would do as well. While you are at it, use Jim's kick up rudder blade as well. See his book, available at Duckworks.
>
> Your Nymph sounds like a great boat for the kids. I recall Mark Klopfenstien's two boys having a ball in their Nymphs at the first ever SCSBMS messabout in April 1990.
>
> Joe T
>

David, Yes, I too busted the leeboard fingers on my Teal. Hasn't everyone? But it was easy to fix. I built a Nymph in 1998 with Michalak's pivoting leeboard, on the PORT side so the bolt will release tension when struck. It is tensioned with a fancy old glass doorknob that just happens to fit a 3/8ths bolt. A knob or wing nut from your local hardware store would do as well. While you are at it, use Jim's kick up rudder blade as well. See his book, available at Duckworks.

Your Nymph sounds like a great boat for the kids. I recall Mark Klopfenstien's two boys having a ball in their Nymphs at the first ever SCSBMS messabout in April 1990.

Joe T

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dir_cobb" <dir_cobb@...> wrote:
>
> The cut and pasted Nymph, widened to Reubens Nymph dimensions was
> re-test-launched yesterday (a week after original testing) and, except
> for a pinhole leak from a badly sealed temporary screwhole which we
> caulked with a bramble from a hedge, functioned beautifully with two
> kids on board until the end of the day when the fingers of the leeboard
> sheared and we had to rescue the leeboard and the boat.
>
>http://s1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/Test%20launching%20Reuben\
> s%20Nymph/
> <%20http://s1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/Test%20launching%20Re\
> ubens%20Nymph/>
>
> The kids had a great time. I think I'll leave them sitting on the floor
> (instead of fitting a seat again) A couple of cusions should keep the
> behinds dry and comfortable. The 40 sq ft rig seems to have been plenty
> for them.
>
> Any insight on the leeboard fingers. Has anyone used a leeboard bracket
> on the gunwale or pivoting leeboard for Nymph?
>
> I didn't try inversion tests or reboarding from deep water, because I
> hadn't really sealed the tops of the flotation chambers properly and
> didn't want to get the insides wetter than necessary.
>
> There is still a lot to finish, but the test was well worth it. I am
> much happier with the widened boat. It was a good decision (for me)
> after all... I got Oldshoe back from my son in the process.,.
>
>
> David
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dnjost" <davidjost@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > My first build was a Nymph. It does lack initial stability, so I
> always got in like it was a canoe; stay centered, get low; and use the
> dock or mother ship for stability. Once in, it gains more stability to
> the point that we used it to row out to an exposed mooring for several
> seasons.
> >
> > I must remember that I was 30 years old, and that at 50+ I doubt I
> would be as enthusiastic. Still, it is a great first boat. As for use
> with kids as a trainer, there are better choices.
> > Happy sailing,
> >
> > David Jost
> >
>

Doug

I haven't tried rowing either but at both widths the design bobs over waves with incredible alacrity under sail. I am convinced that the design is both very safe, seaworthy and dry reasonably handled.

The wider version is a much more stable platform in respect of sideways roll. It allows for a less experienced crew safely. I am really glad I took the decision of widening her despite the shock some people experienced.

I reckon the downside of the Reubens version for rowing is Bolgers comment of requiring 8' oars for eficient rowing.

If the wider version gets to be too boring with the 40 sq ft rig as the kids grow up or adults start to use her, building the 59 sq ft rig will take only a few moments.

Just a note, for anyone referring to Paysons Instant Boatbuilding: The plans for Reubens Nymph have two small mistakes I have noticed:

a) The side panel dimension shown on the panel layout are wrong five feet from the stern (of the panel). The dimension says 1'3 3/16" as for the central measurement, whereas it should be 1'1 13/16" as is the case for the original Nymph.

b) I also believe that the sprit boom length has been left from the standard Nymph. It is shown as 8' long and I believe it needs to be about 9'6" for the 59 sq ft sail.

I can say, however, that lightly loaded, the 40 sq ft rig seems safe and fun.

I would also note that addition of flotation in the way I have considerably reduces the amount of space so Nymph became very much a solo boat whereas Reubens Nymph will carry two or three kids very comfortably. I reckon a couple of adults is also perfectly viable.

Regards,


David

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Doug" <dbdbgriggs@...> wrote:
>
> David,
> having used both, how does the Reubens compare to the original in
> terms of resistance? I built an original Nymph many years ago, and I
> was astounded at how easily she moved through the water. Does the
> Reubens also amaze in the same fashion, or is she harder to move (row)?
> Thanks
> Doug Griggs
>

David,
having used both, how does the Reubens compare to the original in
terms of resistance? I built an original Nymph many years ago, and I
was astounded at how easily she moved through the water. Does the
Reubens also amaze in the same fashion, or is she harder to move (row)?
Thanks
Doug Griggs

The cut and pasted Nymph, widened to Reubens Nymph dimensions was re-test-launched yesterday (a week after original testing) and, except for a pinhole leak from a badly sealed temporary screwhole which we caulked with a bramble from a hedge, functioned beautifully with two kids on board until the end of the day when the fingers of the leeboard sheared and we had to rescue the leeboard and the boat.

http://s1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/Test%20launching%20Reubens%20Nymph/ 

The kids had a great time. I think I'll leave them sitting on the floor (instead of fitting a seat again) A couple of cusions should keep the behinds dry and comfortable. The 40 sq ft rig seems to have been plenty for them.

Any insight on the leeboard fingers. Has anyone used a leeboard bracket on the gunwale or pivoting leeboard for Nymph?

I didn't try inversion  tests or reboarding from deep water, because I hadn't really sealed the tops of the flotation chambers properly and didn't want to get the insides wetter than necessary.

There is still a lot to finish, but the test was well worth it. I am much happier with the widened boat. It was a good decision (for me) after all... I got Oldshoe back from my son in the process.,.


David 

--- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, "dnjost" <davidjost@...> wrote:
>
>
> My first build was a Nymph. It does lack initial stability, so I always got in like it was a canoe; stay centered, get low; and use the dock or mother ship for stability. Once in, it gains more stability to the point that we used it to row out to an exposed mooring for several seasons.
>
> I must remember that I was 30 years old, and that at 50+ I doubt I would be as enthusiastic. Still, it is a great first boat. As for use with kids as a trainer, there are better choices.
> Happy sailing,
>
> David Jost
>

My first build was a Nymph. It does lack initial stability, so I always got in like it was a canoe; stay centered, get low; and use the dock or mother ship for stability. Once in, it gains more stability to the point that we used it to row out to an exposed mooring for several seasons.

I must remember that I was 30 years old, and that at 50+ I doubt I would be as enthusiastic. Still, it is a great first boat. As for use with kids as a trainer, there are better choices.
Happy sailing,

David Jost

I agree. My Nymph is a little tender getting in, but once in is very difficult to swamp. I let my nine year old row it on the Columbia river without hesitation. I would let the six year old row it if she could handle the oars.

One of my friends took it out with its sailing rig in three foot chop and 20 mph winds with one of HIS children aboard and the boat floated right over the top of the chop without taking on any water (I added a deck from the bow transon to the mast step) and in perfect safety. It is a great design.

I get in by stepping directly into the middle with one foot and then putting my body weight on the dock until both feet are in and then levering my body into the boat by pushing off the dock until my wieght is centered in it. A little awkward, but it works, and once in and sitting it is very difficult to accidentally swamp (although it feels a lot more tippy than it is)

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "loosemoosefilmworks" <loosemoosefilmworks@...> wrote:
>
> I'll throw in my 2 cents as well on the Nymph which has always been one of my favorites...
>
> It's only tippy in the sense that a bike is to a kid who is moving up from a tricycle and just like a kid who can't seem to balance on his bike one day is having n problems at all the next. Nothing wrong with the Nymph simply that a person needs to adapt (a little) to it and once that happens it is a truly lovely boat and a very capable one at that.
>
> One of the things I have always liked about the Nymph is that when we were using it as a tender to Loose Moose 2 it was such a dry ride and how you could row out into a really nasty chop and be fairly dry... A very civilized boat for sure. That said the boat was something of a work horse and we used it to row out kedge anchors, ferry water and groceries from Turkey to Gibralter as we circumnavigated the Med.
>
> A great design and easily the prettiest two sheets of plywood anyone's ever designed into a boat!
>
> Bob
>
>http://boatbits.blogspot.com/
>http://fishingundersail.blogspot.com/
>http://islandgourmand.blogspot.com/
>

I fully agree about Nymph being a beautiful design and even extremely comfortable. As a two sheet rowboat with an option of sailing rig in reasonably controlled conditions I feel she takes some beating.

I believe the fault is neither the designers nor the designs'. My choice was at fault for my purposes and consequently Nymph as designed just didn't work for me where I intend it to be used by whom I intend it to be used.

The lake we sail on in summer is reasonably large with many inlets and extremely bad visibility from where we approach the lakeside. As a result, anyone sailing out from our lake access is almost immediatelyout of sight. I need the boat to be self rescuing in order to give the rest of us peace of mind while my son goes sailing.

I'll probably end up having to make a larger sail for the wider Nymph pretty soon...

Regards,



David

I'll throw in my 2 cents as well on the Nymph which has always been one of my favorites...

It's only tippy in the sense that a bike is to a kid who is moving up from a tricycle and just like a kid who can't seem to balance on his bike one day is having n problems at all the next. Nothing wrong with the Nymph simply that a person needs to adapt (a little) to it and once that happens it is a truly lovely boat and a very capable one at that.

One of the things I have always liked about the Nymph is that when we were using it as a tender to Loose Moose 2 it was such a dry ride and how you could row out into a really nasty chop and be fairly dry... A very civilized boat for sure. That said the boat was something of a work horse and we used it to row out kedge anchors, ferry water and groceries from Turkey to Gibralter as we circumnavigated the Med.

A great design and easily the prettiest two sheets of plywood anyone's ever designed into a boat!

Bob

http://boatbits.blogspot.com/
http://fishingundersail.blogspot.com/
http://islandgourmand.blogspot.com/

I find it strange and sad that the original nymph has been described as tender, and even "unsafe."

My experience has been the opposite. Our kids logged a thousand hours in my original nymph growing up on Portage Lake in Michigan's Upper Peninsula. She was the safest boat pulled up on the beach, and our kids all learned small boat seamanship rowing her, starting as soon as they could see over the gunnels. The other boats were sailboards, kayaks, a racing dinghy and Super Snark. We all got dunked frequently and came up spluttering...but no one ever unintentionally swamped or capsized the nymph. We referred to her as "the coast guard" and an older person often played mother hen in the nymph when the kids were falling off the Mini Bic or being blown off shore in the Snark. We were on the water every day all summer. In the winter we all went tearing through the woods in skis. That bunch of kids grew up to be sailing instructors, ski coaches, and serious sailboat racers. Now in their 20s, they still love the splash. It's not just the kids. A few years ago my mom and dad took the nymph out for an evening row during a visit--in their late 70s.

Tender is relative to your other boats, and child boating safety has more to do with adult responsibility, supervision, participation and PFD use than any particular hull. If the adult panics when the boat tips, that's unsafe for the child.

Self rescue isn't an academic topic. It takes practice. In rough conditions, sail within sight of other boats and keep an eye on each other. Some boats just don't self rescue very well (kayaks for instance) but with a little assistance you can be off and sailing again. Until you've gotten wet a few times, you won't press on more canvas until something breaks, or keep a planing June Bug upright when everyone else has run for the beach. We wear PFDs so it's not the end of the world when we capsize, and we build wooden boats so they're easy to fix when we break stuff while pushing the envelope.

Our experience with the original nymph has been that she is slow, stable, and so safe she would be boring if her lovely shape didn't move so gracefully through a fine bit of chop.

Rick

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Myles J. Swift" <mswift@...> wrote:
>
> Your Old Shoe reasons match my Micro reasons except that when I built it I
> wanted to be able to overnight both on the water and on the road. I've had a
> lot of people enjoy themselves in comfort on Micro but run away from June
> Bug. Even one on the Coots asked me how I could keep June Bug upright after
> watching me planing at a good clip in wind that sent him to shore.
>
>
>
> MylesJ
>

Mine was a standard Nymph. Leaving the side of the center frame insured the stiffness of the hull.

Reed

Reed

That makes a lot of sense to me... I can't see much use for the center frame once the boat has been molded round it.

Is yours a standard or Reubens Nymph? What was the definitive seating arrangement? The floor seems the safest place (weight well down when sailing, but the frame makes it a real pain...

I'm in the process of widening as you will have seen from the pictures. I'm just worried that 12" looks too much...

David

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "captreed@..." <captreed@...> wrote:
>
>
> <<what I thought to do is elimenate the middel mould
>
> After consulting with Phil B. I eliminated the center of the middle mould, leaving the part attached to the side and bilge panel. This made for more comfortable sitting.
>
> Reed
>

<<what I thought to do is elimenate the middel mould

After consulting with Phil B. I eliminated the center of the middle mould, leaving the part attached to the side and bilge panel. This made for more comfortable sitting.

Reed

Myles

I chose Oldshoe as my first build because I wanted a stable, comfortable boat that my (then) 8 year old daughter would feel safe in, my 65 year old parents could sail comfortably in and I could trailer easily and enjoy at a reasonable expense... Chile is a large country with many lakes, good highways but pretty bad local roads. I have no local sailing here.

Oldshoe accomplishes all these tasks very nicely. I have abused her and overloaded her and sailed her in varying conditions. I wouldn't want to sleep in her by choice, but can think of a lot worse daysailers to sleep in. I have never managed to get anywhere close to capsizing her, despite all the Lasers capsizing round me.

She is a lot of fun, has plenty of space, goes nicely and looks after her crew. She draws more attention on the lakes here than any other boat around. I have had people ask if they may take pictures... I can't see the comparison with the power cat, but I assume we could work something out.

After capsizing the Nymph, my son decided that he would spend the afternoon sailing Oldshoe while I got myself wet. He coped far too well for my liking, so, in order to recover Oldshoe, I now need to fix Nymph. We can always enlarge the mast and sail next to make her less stable again...

> I think about an Old Shoe when I fantasize about replacing all of my boats
> with one. Can it replace a Micro, June Bug, Tortoise, Puddle Duck, and 14
> foot power cat?? If you can answer that one you get a lot of points.

Dynamite includes Rubens Nymph in his latest build book. Not sure how
easy it would be to re-board if you tip it over - but the likelihood
would be a lot less than with Nymph.

I sometimes regret selling my Oldshoe plans. But nothing can replace a
Micro. But two boats is still better in some ways than five - so give me
a few points:-)

Hmm - Power cat - love that as well. Also have fantasies of having a
Light Schooner.

Nels

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Myles J. Swift" <mswift@...> wrote:
>
> David,
>
>
>
> The Reubens width will cover all of you stability questions, and need
more
> sail. It sounds like it is more of a child safety issue than anything.
The
> full width and keeping the same sail will be very stable.
>
>
>
> I'm looking to make a 90 foot sail for my Brick/Puddle Duck. My June
Bug
> with the 59 footer competes with Ducks and Lasers when the wind is up,
when
> it is not they walk away. Hopefully I'll be able to use this sail
with both
> June Bug and the Duck. Currently I use the June Bug rig on both.
>
>
>
> I think about an Old Shoe when I fantasize about replacing all of my
boats
> with one. Can it replace a Micro, June Bug, Tortoise, Puddle Duck, and
14
> foot power cat?? If you can answer that one you get a lot of points.
>
>
>
> MylesJ
>

Right on with your conversion. I stretched a Bolger Tortoise 18" by cutting it in half, built a square insert and put it back together with "Payson scarfs". It worked well.

Let us know how it changes the function for you.

Reed

Myles

Agreed. Oldshoe is 5ft wide, flat bottomed and ballasted... However...

Nymph has failed the wife safety test, thereby meaning my son will not be allowed out alone in her, defeating the object of the excercise.

Thought you might enjoy the pics of cutting her in half to expand to Reubens Nymph dimensions or some slightly smaller amount.

http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/Slicing%20Nymph/P1060356.jpg 

http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/Slicing%20Nymph/P1060357.jpg 

http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/Slicing%20Nymph/P1060364.jpg 

http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/Slicing%20Nymph/P1060370.jpg 

http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/Slicing%20Nymph/P1060372.jpg 

http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/Slicing%20Nymph/P1060374.jpg 

http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/Slicing%20Nymph/P1060382.jpg 

Here you can see me reassembling to Reubens Nymph dimensions:

http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/Slicing%20Nymph/P1060387.jpg 

http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/Slicing%20Nymph/P1060388.jpg 

http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/Slicing%20Nymph/P1060389.jpg 


Any thoughts anyone?  I wonder if adding less than 12 inches will work? Has anyone added 8 or 9? It grows enormously with the 12 inch insert... I'll be keeping the smaller mast and sail as my son is only 11 and around 85lbs.

This is also a lesson to my son about:

a) dad doesn't always get it right
b) you don't give up just because things don't work out the first time
c) most things can be fixed
d) patience is a virtue...




David

--- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, "Myles J. Swift" <mswift@...> wrote:
>
> David,
>
>
>
> Now you know why there is a Reubens Nymph! I guess you got too used to that
> 6 foot flat bottom on the other Bolger in the pictures. Maybe some yoga/sumo
> practice? All weight balanced on one leg on the dock, put your other leg in
> the boat and slowly transfer your weight to that leg. If you don't do it
> right you end up in the water anyway, but you didn't tip the boat.
>
>
>
> I'd try re-boarding over the stern. With a quick pull and a belly flop into
> the remaining water in the boat, you should get back without swamping.
>
>
>
> One thing that will help getting in from the dock is to make sure that the
> dagger board is mounted before you get in or out. I learned that years ago
> trying to step down into a Laser from a higher dock. I went swimming a
> couple of times until I figured that one out. Lashing the rudder helps a bit
> there too.
>
>
>
> MylesJ
>

Thanks for sharing. Nice one.

Bailing? I don't see a bucket. Not in any of the pics.

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dir_cobb" <dir_cobb@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all... I would like to share the pics of my Nymph

> 2) I could not self rescue. I just managed to get back in, but bailing
> was impossible.
>
> All thoughts, jibes and jokes welcome... Hope you enjoy...
>
>
> David
>

That's why I sold my Nymph, I'm sad to say because it's a beautiful design.

Reed

Did you try removing sail and mast (keep attached to boat) and bailing from outside of boat, to later board over the ends of the boat? From outside the boat can you rock the boat from the side or from bow or stern to first splash out water before bailing? What happens if you reach across from bow or stern to bail?

In waves and cold water it is even harder as I can attest from experience after an accidental jibe coming into a channel in a breeze. Good to play in warm water first.
Eric

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dir_cobb" <dir_cobb@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all... I would like to share the pics of my Nymph (modified with
> flotation in the ends) which we test launched yesterday. The build was
> practically to plan except for decking in both ends...
>
>http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060294-1.jpg
> <http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060294-1.jpg>
>
>http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060303.jpg
> <http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060303.jpg>
>http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060308.jpg
> <http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060308.jpg>
>
>
> I have two problems:
>
> 1) I found the design extremely tender (I got soaked getting in twice)
> although she sails very nicely once I managed to get in. Any ideas on
> boarding safely?
>
>http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060340.jpg
> <http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060340.jpg>
>
>
> 2) I could not self rescue. I just managed to get back in, but bailing
> was impossible. Despite managing to get the hull to float with the
> gunwales out of the water, a tilt either way would soon fill up again...
>
>http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060341.jpg
> <http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060341.jpg>
>http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060343.jpg
> <http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060343.jpg>
>
>http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060343.jpg
> <http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060343.jpg>
>
> All thoughts, jibes and jokes welcome... Hope you enjoy...
>
>
> David
>

Hi all... I would like to share the pics of my Nymph (modified with flotation in the ends) which we test launched yesterday. The build was practically to plan except for decking in both ends...

http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060294-1.jpg 

http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060303.jpg
 
http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060308.jpg
 


I have two problems:

1) I found the design extremely tender (I got soaked getting in twice) although she sails very nicely once I managed to get in. Any ideas on boarding safely?

http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060340.jpg
 


2) I could not self rescue. I just managed to get back in, but bailing was impossible. Despite managing to get the hull to float with the gunwales out of the water, a tilt either way would soon fill up again...

http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060341.jpg
 
http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060343.jpg 

http://i1044.photobucket.com/albums/b447/decob/P1060343.jpg 

All thoughts, jibes and jokes welcome... Hope you enjoy...


David