Re: [bolger] Re: Large, big, long Diablo
stretch of a Diablo hull. No cabin, tiny cuddy, 20hp, I will whip
out an isometric tomorrow.
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 1:12 PM, mbevington <mike_bevington@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> SBJ 34, January 1984, has a cartoon for "A Planing Motorsailer" which is basically a 30% stretch of Diablo (length only) with a spritsail and jib. A smaller boat than Ada and a low cuddy instead of a cabin.
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <hallman@...> wrote:
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> > Diablo?
>
> To me at least, "Diablo-like" means a "five panel taped seam" type of
> hull. Fast Motor Sailer has that with a cutwater added. I don't
> recall where there is a write-up of Ada, does anybody know where Ada
> is written up?
>
> Diablo?To me at least, "Diablo-like" means a "five panel taped seam" type of
hull. Fast Motor Sailer has that with a cutwater added. I don't
recall where there is a write-up of Ada, does anybody know where Ada
is written up?
David
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Mark Albanese <marka97203@...> wrote:
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> That's the original Fast Motor Sailor, a stretched Diablo w/ cuddy and
> dipping lug sail.
>
>
> > I remember seeing a large kind of Diablo with a small cabin, but I
> > don t
> > remember if I saw it in a book, or the internet
> >
> > (I am not talking about Diablo Grande, it was other design)
> >
> > I am looking for the closest Bolger desing to the "panga" or "yamaha"
> > working fishing boats.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for the info. Regards, Máximo.
> >
> >
> >
>
Some photos of FMS "ADA" part way down this page. Including one of enlarged cabin.
http://www.boatdesign.com/jumps/mckib/Page.html
Nels
--- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, "daschultz2000" <daschultz8275@...> wrote:
>
> Mark nailed it. The original 26' FMS is pictured in "Boats with an Open Mind" in the chapter about Fast Motor Sailer. There are more online pics of that boat which could be found by searching the builder's name given in the chapter. He added substantially to the cabin. This design should be available from PB&F, though I don't know if it would include expansions of the plywood panels as in the instant boat designs.
>
> Don
>
> PS there is a 31' power cruiser in the same Bolger book that is, to my knowledge, the largest of the Diablo class hulls. It has an outstanding cabin arrangement which was used on a smaller scale in Retriever. DAS
>
> --- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, Mark Albanese marka97203@ wrote:
> >
> > That's the original Fast Motor Sailor, a stretched Diablo w/ cuddy and
> > dipping lug sail.
> >
>
> No one has mentioned the discussions ofI found this reference to a MAIB article.
> "Yamato Boats" that were bouncing
> around over the last couple of years.
V11 N01 Yamato Fishing Launch 5/15/1993
I would take that to mean Volume 11, Number 1. I have a vague memory of the article, but not of the boat.
The lines plan of the Sea King reminds me somewhat of the PCB's steel Curragh (sp?). I suppose it's a fairly generic shallow V-bottom. I don't mean to be disloyal, but there are lot's of plans of that type at bateau.com.
Don
PS there is a 31' power cruiser in the same Bolger book that is, to my knowledge, the largest of the Diablo class hulls. It has an outstanding cabin arrangement which was used on a smaller scale in Retriever. DAS
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Mark Albanese <marka97203@...> wrote:
>
> That's the original Fast Motor Sailor, a stretched Diablo w/ cuddy and
> dipping lug sail.
>
I have seen a lot of commentary on this one over the last few days. No one has mentioned the discussions of "Yamato Boats" that were bouncing around over the last couple of years. If you search the archives on "yamato" there is some interesting reading. One thing I found was this link:Selway-Fisher
V/R
Chris
On 12/27/2010 7:18 AM, Maximo wrote:I remember seeing a large kind of Diablo with a small cabin, but I don t remember if I saw it in a book, or the internet (I am not talking about Diablo Grande, it was other design) I am looking for the closest Bolger desing to the "panga" or "yamaha" working fishing boats. Thanks in advance for the info. Regards, Máximo.
| UuuHhh..! Coming soon: Maximo "the sabalero" --- Elmar 28-dic-10, Maximo<grupos@...>escribió:
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Thank you all for your great answers
What I remember was
the combination of various images or study plan including Sampan Express, or
perhaps the Surfmaster, and the most close, the Samuel Clyde on page 329 at BWOM
(no image found on internet)
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/stoutcat/Dynamite%20Dory/SampanExpress30ft_400.jpg
http://instantboats.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=1872
http://www.instantboats.com/downeastdories/dories.php
Around
here there are known as "truckers" or tracker, or trukker, or trakker
:)
http://www.astillerobenavidez.com/dominios/astillerobenavidez.com/pescaartesanal.asp
Thanks, regards, Máximo
> I am looking for the closest Bolger design to the "panga" or "yamaha"I think it would help if you could point to a website, or at least a picture, of the kind of panga you have in mind. The ordinary sort of Google search is complicated by the use of the word as a brand name. I think there was a discussion once-upon-a-time in Woodenboat, but I could be confused.
> working fishing boats.
From what I did see on the web, I guess you are talking about a small, flat-bottom outboard fishing boat suitable for use off a beach. PCB designed a host of outboard fishing boats including Diablo, the Fisherman's skiff and the two Work Skiffs that you can see athttp://www.instantboats.com/boats.html.
Some more, plus some round-bottom boats are shown in his books.
If you are planning to row it, I wouldn't go much larger than the Fisherman's skiff.
I remember seeing a large kind of Diablo with a small cabin, but I don t
remember if I saw it in a book, or the internet
(I am not talking about Diablo Grande, it was other design)
I am looking for the closest Bolger desing to the "panga" or "yamaha"
working fishing boats.
Thanks in advance for the info. Regards, Máximo.
I ran into total frustration looking for info on the yamaha panga. The FAO designs were the basis for the platform and modified for more power. Yamaha drew up plans and produced molds. I never found plans and or anyone with any knowlege of them. I joined the panga group for help and they just replied copy a hull. Panga is a generic word for boat but the version yamaha designed is popular and copied and produced in fiberglass and can be bought from Mexico. It seems the delta pad varies from manufacturer to manufacturer. Good luck finding info or plans. IMO, Shivaree meets the criteria, a few versions are in plans.
Bruce
----- Original Message ----
From: "Maximo" <grupos@...>
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 7:18:53 AM
Subject: [bolger] Large, big, long Diablo
I remember seeing a large kind of Diablo with a small cabin, but I don t
remember if I saw it in a book, or the internet
(I am not talking about Diablo Grande, it was other design)
I am looking for the closest Bolger desing to the "panga" or "yamaha"
working fishing boats.
Thanks in advance for the info. Regards, Máximo.
V/R
Chris
On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 09:18 -0300, Maximo wrote:I remember seeing a large kind of Diablo with a small cabin, but I don t remember if I saw it in a book, or the internet (I am not talking about Diablo Grande, it was other design) I am looking for the closest Bolger desing to the "panga" or "yamaha" working fishing boats. Thanks in advance for the info. Regards, Máximo. ------------------------------------ Bolger rules!!! - NO "GO AWAY SPAMMER!" posts!!! Please! - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, respamming, or flogging dead horses - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349 - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com- Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/<*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/join(Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email:bolger-digest@yahoogroups.combolger-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
remember if I saw it in a book, or the internet
(I am not talking about Diablo Grande, it was other design)
I am looking for the closest Bolger desing to the "panga" or "yamaha"
working fishing boats.
Thanks in advance for the info. Regards, Máximo.
On Dec 26, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Pippo wrote:Just ordered mine. Happy Holidays to all!
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Long <owlnmole@...> wrote:
>
> With my thanks to the builders, owners and photographers who provided the
> photos, I am happy to announce that the calendar "Beauty & Boxes: Bolger
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>
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>
> This is a non-profit project--no funds go to me as the editor or to those
> who donated photos--which is how the cost was kept down to $12.49 +
> shipping.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
>
> --
> Matthew William Long
> Rabat, Morocco
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>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Long <owlnmole@...> wrote:
>
> With my thanks to the builders, owners and photographers who provided the
> photos, I am happy to announce that the calendar "Beauty & Boxes: Bolger
> Boats 2011" is now available at the link below.
>
>http://www.lulu.com/product/calendar/bolger-boats-2011/13846474
>
> This is a non-profit project--no funds go to me as the editor or to those
> who donated photos--which is how the cost was kept down to $12.49 +
> shipping.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
>
> --
> Matthew William Long
> Rabat, Morocco
> www.cluttonfred.info
>
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Murray" <ugoigotoo@...> wrote:
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> My calendar arrived from Lulu yesterday. Very nice piece of work in all respects...photography, reproduction, quality of paper stock, etc. It was very well packaged.
>
> Order with confidence ;-)
>
> Murray
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bill Howard <billh39@> wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone had experience with Lulu?
> >
> > I would like to buy a calendar, but am skeptical of this new (to me) vendor website.
> >
> > Bill Howard
> > Nellysford VA
> > On Nov 27, 2010, at 12:21 PM, etap28 wrote:
> >
>
Carl
Den 25-12-2010 16:26, Murray skrev:
My calendar arrived from Lulu yesterday. Very nice piece of work in all respects...photography, reproduction, quality of paper stock, etc. It was very well packaged.
Order with confidence ;-)
Murray
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bill Howard<billh39@...>wrote:
>
> Has anyone had experience with Lulu?
>
> I would like to buy a calendar, but am skeptical of this new (to me) vendor website.
>
> Bill Howard
> Nellysford VA
> On Nov 27, 2010, at 12:21 PM, etap28 wrote:
>
> > Mathew
> > What a great job--I'll put myself down for one. You got quite a few of my Bolger favs on there somehow, and all the shots are really nice
> > dave
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Long <owlnmole@> wrote:
> > >
> > > With my thanks to the builders, owners and photographers who provided the
> > > photos, I am happy to announce that the calendar "Beauty & Boxes: Bolger
> > > Boats 2011" is now available at the link below.
> > >
> > >http://www.lulu.com/product/calendar/bolger-boats-2011/13846474
> > >
> > > This is a non-profit project--no funds go to me as the editor or to those
> > > who donated photos--which is how the cost was kept down to $12.49 +
> > > shipping.
> > >
> > > Enjoy!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Matthew
> > >
> > > --
> > > Matthew William Long
> > > Rabat, Morocco
> > >www.cluttonfred.info
> > >
> >
> >
>
Order with confidence ;-)
Murray
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bill Howard <billh39@...> wrote:
>
> Has anyone had experience with Lulu?
>
> I would like to buy a calendar, but am skeptical of this new (to me) vendor website.
>
> Bill Howard
> Nellysford VA
> On Nov 27, 2010, at 12:21 PM, etap28 wrote:
>
> > Mathew
> > What a great job--I'll put myself down for one. You got quite a few of my Bolger favs on there somehow, and all the shots are really nice
> > dave
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Long <owlnmole@> wrote:
> > >
> > > With my thanks to the builders, owners and photographers who provided the
> > > photos, I am happy to announce that the calendar "Beauty & Boxes: Bolger
> > > Boats 2011" is now available at the link below.
> > >
> > >http://www.lulu.com/product/calendar/bolger-boats-2011/13846474
> > >
> > > This is a non-profit project--no funds go to me as the editor or to those
> > > who donated photos--which is how the cost was kept down to $12.49 +
> > > shipping.
> > >
> > > Enjoy!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Matthew
> > >
> > > --
> > > Matthew William Long
> > > Rabat, Morocco
> > > www.cluttonfred.info
> > >
> >
> >
>
HJ
On 11/29/2010 6:00 AM, Bill Howard wrote:Has anyone had experience with Lulu?I would like to buy a calendar, but am skeptical of this new (to me) vendor website.Bill HowardNellysford VAOn Nov 27, 2010, at 12:21 PM, etap28 wrote:Mathew
What a great job--I'll put myself down for one. You got quite a few of my Bolger favs on there somehow, and all the shots are really nice
dave
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Long<owlnmole@...>wrote:
>
> With my thanks to the builders, owners and photographers who provided the
> photos, I am happy to announce that the calendar "Beauty & Boxes: Bolger
> Boats 2011" is now available at the link below.
>
>http://www.lulu.com/product/calendar/bolger-boats-2011/13846474
>
> This is a non-profit project--no funds go to me as the editor or to those
> who donated photos--which is how the cost was kept down to $12.49 +
> shipping.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
>
> --
> Matthew William Long
> Rabat, Morocco
>www.cluttonfred.info
>
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Sent:Monday, November 29, 2010 10:00 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject:Re: [bolger] Re: Bolger 2011 calendar now available!
Has anyone had experience with Lulu?
I would like to buy a calendar, but am skeptical of this new (to me) vendor website.
Bill Howard
Nellysford VA
On Nov 27, 2010, at 12:21 PM, etap28 wrote:
Mathew
What a great job--I'll put myself down for one. You got quite a few of my
Bolger favs on there somehow, and all the shots are really nice
dave
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com,
Matthew Long <owlnmole@...> wrote:
>
> With my thanks to the builders, owners and photographers who provided the
> photos, I am happy to announce that the calendar "Beauty & Boxes:
Bolger
> Boats 2011" is now available at the link below.
>
>http://www.lulu.com/product/calendar/bolger-boats-2011/13846474
>
> This is a non-profit project--no funds go to me as the editor or to those
> who donated photos--which is how the cost was kept down to $12.49 +
> shipping.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
>
> --
> Matthew William Long
> Rabat, Morocco
>www.cluttonfred.info
>
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On 11/29/2010 10:00 AM, Bill Howard wrote:
> Has anyone had experience with Lulu?
>
>
> I would like to buy a calendar, but am skeptical of this new (to me)
> vendor website.
>
> Bill Howard
> Nellysford VA
> On Nov 27, 2010, at 12:21 PM, etap28 wrote:
On Nov 27, 2010, at 12:21 PM, etap28 wrote:Mathew
What a great job--I'll put myself down for one. You got quite a few of my Bolger favs on there somehow, and all the shots are really nice
dave
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Long <owlnmole@...> wrote:
>
> With my thanks to the builders, owners and photographers who provided the
> photos, I am happy to announce that the calendar "Beauty & Boxes: Bolger
> Boats 2011" is now available at the link below.
>
>http://www.lulu.com/product/calendar/bolger-boats-2011/13846474
>
> This is a non-profit project--no funds go to me as the editor or to those
> who donated photos--which is how the cost was kept down to $12.49 +
> shipping.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
>
> --
> Matthew William Long
> Rabat, Morocco
>www.cluttonfred.info
>
What a great job--I'll put myself down for one. You got quite a few of my Bolger favs on there somehow, and all the shots are really nice
dave
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Matthew Long <owlnmole@...> wrote:
>
> With my thanks to the builders, owners and photographers who provided the
> photos, I am happy to announce that the calendar "Beauty & Boxes: Bolger
> Boats 2011" is now available at the link below.
>
>http://www.lulu.com/product/calendar/bolger-boats-2011/13846474
>
> This is a non-profit project--no funds go to me as the editor or to those
> who donated photos--which is how the cost was kept down to $12.49 +
> shipping.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
>
> --
> Matthew William Long
> Rabat, Morocco
> www.cluttonfred.info
>
This is a non-profit project--no funds go to me as the editor or to those who donated photos--which is how the cost was kept down to $12.49 + shipping.