Re: DAKINI
that's cool, glad she'll be around for a bunch more moffet races
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "sv_freya" <erik_hammarlund@...> wrote:
>
> Just FYI,she's coming back to the vineyard, where she used to be--she'll be in Tashmoo again, and much loved.
>
> -Erik Hammarlund
> (Mait's stepson, longtime Dakini lover/sailor, and imminent Dakini owner)
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "sv_freya" <erik_hammarlund@...> wrote:
>Hi Erik - glad to hear it. Gives me a reason to go back to the Vineyard & check her out after all these years. Say Hi to Mait for me when you see him.
> Just FYI,she's coming back to the vineyard, where she used to be--she'll be in Tashmoo again, and much loved.
>
> -Erik Hammarlund
> (Mait's stepson, longtime Dakini lover/sailor, and imminent Dakini owner)
>
Just FYI,she's coming back to the vineyard, where she used to be--she'll be in Tashmoo again, and much loved.
-Erik Hammarlund
(Mait's stepson, longtime Dakini lover/sailor, and imminent Dakini owner)
-Erik Hammarlund
(Mait's stepson, longtime Dakini lover/sailor, and imminent Dakini owner)
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "lancefgunderson" <lancefgunderson@...> wrote:
>Oh my god! Time goes by, and the brain dissolves. Thanks for the correction... and sorry for the misinformation. Rich.
> Dakini was never owned by Shoal Water Cruises; you are thinking of Tashtego, my old Black Skimmer, which I sold to Key Largo Shoal Water Cruises when it was owned by Bill and Fran Blatter. Mait Edey still owned Dakini in 1990. Also Dakini is a tandem centerboard gaff yawl and not a leeboard sharpie.
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "proto957" <helio6@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Walter: Is this Walter who built Dakini? Sorry to jump in mid-topic, but:
> >
> > Yes, Dakini was sold to Florida Shoal Water Cruises, in Key Largo. This was run by Paul Fochberg (sp?). On my our honeymoon in 1990, my wife and I asked for Dakini, being familiar with it from the WB article. I had also stopped by Walter's shop the summer before to meet him, and we had a brief chat.
> >
> > We chartered the boat for only two nights and three days. It sailed very well, but the lee boards were very heavy and difficult to raise and/or adjust. Paul had shown us that the mounting points for the lines controlling them had been moved a couple of times, in an attempt to get a better lifting point.
> >
> > The boat did have weather helm. The only other disadvantage was the noise... we tied up to a mangrove one night, on shore... and the small chop hitting the transom made a huge noise in the boat. It was loud, and kept us awake... so in the dark I motored to a cove, and anchored, and it was then silent.
> >
> > I have pics of the boat of course, and the cruise, if anyone is interested... I also wrote an article at the time for MAIB. Rich
> >
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Walter" <walter@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I Always liked the Black Skimmer design. It could sail in very shoal water, and had a nice open area below, with no CB case in the way. The original owner kept her for 8 or 9 years, then sold her. I think she ended up down in Key largo, where that fellow had a few and rented them out for cruising Florida bay.
> > >
> > >
> > > > You'll be astounded to learn, as Mait was, that I bought yet another Bolger Black Skimmer a few years ago and have been cruising in it. My intention was, in my old age, to not own any more big boats, but this one sort of showed up at my door and I couldn't resist. This one was built by a fellow named McCarthy who lived in the Newburyport area.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Me mate forwarded a fair use copy of the MAIB pages.
Ply Dovkie's profile, including the little spray hood, is a stunningly close match to the original. One can't be very tall to sit under the side decks, I see now, barely 36" clear. Phil's idea of a revision with house makes sense. Hard to know if he'd tumble it in or just carry the sides that much higher a la Camper #640. Since you wouldn't spend any time at all on deck, the latter might be an easy choice.
I'll have my PD with a balanced lug rig, please. Sized right, that might only require moving the mast forward by inches, still keeping out of the slot okay and easy to take down.
As mentioned, we do have the Shorey midsection, but of course not the same run, forefoot, or exactly the length to beam ratio as Dakini. PD's bow is eyed fine as can be and still have the needed lift.
A real stunner, thanks.
On Jan 22, 2011, at 8:21 PM, c.ruzer wrote:
Plywood Dovekie had the thickened for ballast bottom, rowing shelter, and the slot as all time firsts, what, some ten years before Birdwatcher appeared?
Lance- I wondered if you were the guy who bought Tashtego from Drew McManus. The post below is correct, Mait didn't sell Dakini until his health problems a few years ago, 2005 or so. If you ever sail into Wellfleet, stop in and say Hi.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "lancefgunderson" <lancefgunderson@...> wrote:
>
> Dakini was never owned by Shoal Water Cruises; you are thinking of Tashtego, my old Black Skimmer, which I sold to Key Largo Shoal Water Cruises when it was owned by Bill and Fran Blatter. Mait Edey still owned Dakini in 1990. Also Dakini is a tandem centerboard gaff yawl and not a leeboard sharpie.
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "proto957" <helio6@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Walter: Is this Walter who built Dakini? Sorry to jump in mid-topic, but:
> >
> > Yes, Dakini was sold to Florida Shoal Water Cruises, in Key Largo. This was run by Paul Fochberg (sp?). On my our honeymoon in 1990, my wife and I asked for Dakini, being familiar with it from the WB article. I had also stopped by Walter's shop the summer before to meet him, and we had a brief chat.
> >
> > We chartered the boat for only two nights and three days. It sailed very well, but the lee boards were very heavy and difficult to raise and/or adjust. Paul had shown us that the mounting points for the lines controlling them had been moved a couple of times, in an attempt to get a better lifting point.
> >
> > The boat did have weather helm. The only other disadvantage was the noise... we tied up to a mangrove one night, on shore... and the small chop hitting the transom made a huge noise in the boat. It was loud, and kept us awake... so in the dark I motored to a cove, and anchored, and it was then silent.
> >
> > I have pics of the boat of course, and the cruise, if anyone is interested... I also wrote an article at the time for MAIB. Rich
> >
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Walter" <walter@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I Always liked the Black Skimmer design. It could sail in very shoal water, and had a nice open area below, with no CB case in the way. The original owner kept her for 8 or 9 years, then sold her. I think she ended up down in Key largo, where that fellow had a few and rented them out for cruising Florida bay.
> > >
> > >
> > > > You'll be astounded to learn, as Mait was, that I bought yet another Bolger Black Skimmer a few years ago and have been cruising in it. My intention was, in my old age, to not own any more big boats, but this one sort of showed up at my door and I couldn't resist. This one was built by a fellow named McCarthy who lived in the Newburyport area.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Mark Albanese <marka97203@...> wrote:
Plywood Dovekie had the thickened for ballast bottom, rowing shelter, and the slot as all time firsts, what, some ten years before Birdwatcher appeared?
> Can't you do that walk end to end of the opening in most of JimYes, 20 odd years later. Slots perhaps reverse designed from his Birdwatcher. Some Jim M cockpits on his slotters are lay down long enough and have bench seats. You might also say his signature balanced lug rigs are easier to reef, and are somewhat handily COA adjustable, and the leeboards are simplified? Plywood Dovekie's level flat bottom is worth something camping though, and it seems leaner than most JM slot types. Better for the rower? Also, good shelter may be easily erected above the slot in inclement weather for better rowing comfort at the station forward than in the cockpit aft?
> Michalak's bw cabin boats by slipping past the offcenter mast? Not
> many cockpits there though. It's hard to have both decent in
> something much shorter than this.
>
Plywood Dovekie had the thickened for ballast bottom, rowing shelter, and the slot as all time firsts, what, some ten years before Birdwatcher appeared?
Yes, of cours!. I slipped Birdwatcher from the list. Thanks for so much more of the story.
Can't you do that walk end to end of the opening in most of Jim Michalak's bw cabin boats by slipping past the offcenter mast? Not many cockpits there though. It's hard to have both decent in something much shorter than this.
Thereissomething altogether wonderful about PD's slot. It is also quite large and open. Looks like cross legged, sitting headroom nicely underneath. No ballast? Think of all the canned goods under the sole!
BIG QUESTION: as a significant improvement even on foam Dovekie maybe, has this plywood camp cruiser the first _ever_ true slot top? 'True' in the sense that crew may walk from aft of cockpit to fore of cabin deck opening whilst fully upright without ducking under any hull structure.
> >
> > There are two or three sisters for Dovkie. Dugong, with a little more open water security; certainly Cartoon #9's Flat-bottom Outboard Cruiser, "What's a power Dovkie look like?" Maybe Pico.
> >
In 1985http://hallman.org/sbj/40/SBJ40pg3.gifPCB wrote that he'd once designed one, but didn't like it. That would've been in the 1970's as in the MAIB Vol 26 No 11, March 2009, Bolger on Design article (pages 48&49) he mentions it was all "over thirty years ago". Back in 1985 he wrote he intends to try again with a plywood Dovekie, can't say when - my guess is that around this time he hit on the Birdwatcher concept. He allows in the 2009 MAIB article that he didn't promote the Ply Dovekie #344 as he thought the Birdwatcher principle superior. He offers that indeed they had forgotton about it until recently after receiving a letter from an owner/builder, Wayne Smith, who praised the design calling it nothing short of "magic", and "in many sea states" all over, as used by his family. It was Charles Burgess who had badgered PCB into finally doing the design (~1976?), and he had liked his too. Unfortunately no photos.
Plywood Dovekie #344, 21' 6", BOA 5' 7", Chine Beam 4' 0", SA 153sqft, has similar re-stepped reefing to Dovekie, Luff 18' 0"; no second oar position; straight and level midsection for minimal draft, most stability, and drying-out level; low cockpit benches 6' 6" long; 3/8" plywood doubled on bottom; straight forward instant boat construction. A 'shorey' cross section?
Pulling there's 16' 6", by a little over 4' at the waterline, by a few inches draft in the water. Maybe they're 8' or 9' oars.
BIG QUESTION: as a significant improvement even on foam Dovekie maybe, has this plywood camp cruiser the first _ever_ true slot top? 'True' in the sense that crew may walk from aft of cockpit to fore of cabin deck opening whilst fully upright without ducking under any hull structure.
Plywood Dovekie #344, 21' 6", BOA 5' 7", Chine Beam 4' 0", SA 153sqft, has similar re-stepped reefing to Dovekie, Luff 18' 0"; no second oar position; straight and level midsection for minimal draft, most stability, and drying-out level; low cockpit benches 6' 6" long; 3/8" plywood doubled on bottom; straight forward instant boat construction. A 'shorey' cross section?
Pulling there's 16' 6", by a little over 4' at the waterline, by a few inches draft in the water. Maybe they're 8' or 9' oars.
BIG QUESTION: as a significant improvement even on foam Dovekie maybe, has this plywood camp cruiser the first _ever_ true slot top? 'True' in the sense that crew may walk from aft of cockpit to fore of cabin deck opening whilst fully upright without ducking under any hull structure.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, BruceHallman <hallman@...> wrote:
>
> For some reason the 'tags' feature of Flickr isn't working for me
> right now?!? In that case, here is a link to the photo inside the
> photostream so you can click forward and back to see more views.
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/hallman/3356143551/
>
> Yes, published in
> Messing about in boats, V26 N11
>
> With 700+ Bolger designs (most of which we have not seen), there are
> many surprises.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Mark Albanese <marka97203@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > There are two or three sisters for Dovkie. Dugong, with a little more open water security; certainly Cartoon #9's Flat-bottom Outboard Cruiser, "What's a power Dovkie look like?" Maybe Pico.
> >
> > But a genuine Plywood Dovkie? ( I actually did fall over backwards! ) Looks not much like the original, but no doubt suits the same requirement.
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/hallman/tags/plywooddoviekie/
> > Scouring old messages doesn't yield much on it. Bob Hicks will send a single sheet for a dollar, minimum five, based on the issue and page numbers. It doesn't appear in the MAIB index, but that is now long out of date.
> > Can you please offer the SBJ or MAIB citation for tracking down what is sure to be a classic text.
> > Mark
> >
> >
>
Dakini was never owned by Shoal Water Cruises; you are thinking of Tashtego, my old Black Skimmer, which I sold to Key Largo Shoal Water Cruises when it was owned by Bill and Fran Blatter. Mait Edey still owned Dakini in 1990. Also Dakini is a tandem centerboard gaff yawl and not a leeboard sharpie.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "proto957" <helio6@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Walter: Is this Walter who built Dakini? Sorry to jump in mid-topic, but:
>
> Yes, Dakini was sold to Florida Shoal Water Cruises, in Key Largo. This was run by Paul Fochberg (sp?). On my our honeymoon in 1990, my wife and I asked for Dakini, being familiar with it from the WB article. I had also stopped by Walter's shop the summer before to meet him, and we had a brief chat.
>
> We chartered the boat for only two nights and three days. It sailed very well, but the lee boards were very heavy and difficult to raise and/or adjust. Paul had shown us that the mounting points for the lines controlling them had been moved a couple of times, in an attempt to get a better lifting point.
>
> The boat did have weather helm. The only other disadvantage was the noise... we tied up to a mangrove one night, on shore... and the small chop hitting the transom made a huge noise in the boat. It was loud, and kept us awake... so in the dark I motored to a cove, and anchored, and it was then silent.
>
> I have pics of the boat of course, and the cruise, if anyone is interested... I also wrote an article at the time for MAIB. Rich
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Walter" <walter@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I Always liked the Black Skimmer design. It could sail in very shoal water, and had a nice open area below, with no CB case in the way. The original owner kept her for 8 or 9 years, then sold her. I think she ended up down in Key largo, where that fellow had a few and rented them out for cruising Florida bay.
> >
> >
> > > You'll be astounded to learn, as Mait was, that I bought yet another Bolger Black Skimmer a few years ago and have been cruising in it. My intention was, in my old age, to not own any more big boats, but this one sort of showed up at my door and I couldn't resist. This one was built by a fellow named McCarthy who lived in the Newburyport area.
> > >
> >
>
For some reason the 'tags' feature of Flickr isn't working for me
right now?!? In that case, here is a link to the photo inside the
photostream so you can click forward and back to see more views.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hallman/3356143551/
Yes, published in
Messing about in boats, V26 N11
With 700+ Bolger designs (most of which we have not seen), there are
many surprises.
right now?!? In that case, here is a link to the photo inside the
photostream so you can click forward and back to see more views.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hallman/3356143551/
Yes, published in
Messing about in boats, V26 N11
With 700+ Bolger designs (most of which we have not seen), there are
many surprises.
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Mark Albanese <marka97203@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> There are two or three sisters for Dovkie. Dugong, with a little more open water security; certainly Cartoon #9's Flat-bottom Outboard Cruiser, "What's a power Dovkie look like?" Maybe Pico.
>
> But a genuine Plywood Dovkie? ( I actually did fall over backwards! ) Looks not much like the original, but no doubt suits the same requirement.
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/hallman/tags/plywooddoviekie/
> Scouring old messages doesn't yield much on it. Bob Hicks will send a single sheet for a dollar, minimum five, based on the issue and page numbers. It doesn't appear in the MAIB index, but that is now long out of date.
> Can you please offer the SBJ or MAIB citation for tracking down what is sure to be a classic text.
> Mark
>
>
Hi Walter: Is this Walter who built Dakini? Sorry to jump in mid-topic, but:
Yes, Dakini was sold to Florida Shoal Water Cruises, in Key Largo. This was run by Paul Fochberg (sp?). On my our honeymoon in 1990, my wife and I asked for Dakini, being familiar with it from the WB article. I had also stopped by Walter's shop the summer before to meet him, and we had a brief chat.
We chartered the boat for only two nights and three days. It sailed very well, but the lee boards were very heavy and difficult to raise and/or adjust. Paul had shown us that the mounting points for the lines controlling them had been moved a couple of times, in an attempt to get a better lifting point.
The boat did have weather helm. The only other disadvantage was the noise... we tied up to a mangrove one night, on shore... and the small chop hitting the transom made a huge noise in the boat. It was loud, and kept us awake... so in the dark I motored to a cove, and anchored, and it was then silent.
I have pics of the boat of course, and the cruise, if anyone is interested... I also wrote an article at the time for MAIB. Rich
Yes, Dakini was sold to Florida Shoal Water Cruises, in Key Largo. This was run by Paul Fochberg (sp?). On my our honeymoon in 1990, my wife and I asked for Dakini, being familiar with it from the WB article. I had also stopped by Walter's shop the summer before to meet him, and we had a brief chat.
We chartered the boat for only two nights and three days. It sailed very well, but the lee boards were very heavy and difficult to raise and/or adjust. Paul had shown us that the mounting points for the lines controlling them had been moved a couple of times, in an attempt to get a better lifting point.
The boat did have weather helm. The only other disadvantage was the noise... we tied up to a mangrove one night, on shore... and the small chop hitting the transom made a huge noise in the boat. It was loud, and kept us awake... so in the dark I motored to a cove, and anchored, and it was then silent.
I have pics of the boat of course, and the cruise, if anyone is interested... I also wrote an article at the time for MAIB. Rich
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Walter" <walter@...> wrote:
>
>
> I Always liked the Black Skimmer design. It could sail in very shoal water, and had a nice open area below, with no CB case in the way. The original owner kept her for 8 or 9 years, then sold her. I think she ended up down in Key largo, where that fellow had a few and rented them out for cruising Florida bay.
>
>
> > You'll be astounded to learn, as Mait was, that I bought yet another Bolger Black Skimmer a few years ago and have been cruising in it. My intention was, in my old age, to not own any more big boats, but this one sort of showed up at my door and I couldn't resist. This one was built by a fellow named McCarthy who lived in the Newburyport area.
> >
>
I Always liked the Black Skimmer design. It could sail in very shoal water, and had a nice open area below, with no CB case in the way. The original owner kept her for 8 or 9 years, then sold her. I think she ended up down in Key largo, where that fellow had a few and rented them out for cruising Florida bay.
> You'll be astounded to learn, as Mait was, that I bought yet another Bolger Black Skimmer a few years ago and have been cruising in it. My intention was, in my old age, to not own any more big boats, but this one sort of showed up at my door and I couldn't resist. This one was built by a fellow named McCarthy who lived in the Newburyport area.
>
There are two or three sisters for Dovkie. Dugong, with a little more open water security; certainly Cartoon #9's Flat-bottom Outboard Cruiser, "What's a power Dovkie look like?" Maybe Pico.
But a genuinePlywood Dovkie?( I actually did fall over backwards! ) Looks not much like the original, but no doubt suits the same requirement.
Scouring old messages doesn't yield much on it. Bob Hicks will send a single sheet for a dollar, minimum five, based on the issue and page numbers. It doesn't appear in the MAIB index, but that is now long out of date.
Can you please offer the SBJ or MAIB citation for tracking down what is sure to be a classic text.
Mark
There are pictures on my Facebook page and also on the WoodenBoat forum under the thread heading"Wellfare Fleet." Also on the 2011 Bolger boats calandar.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@...> wrote:
>
> Lance
>
> Do you have any pictures on line, you can't have to many Black Skimmer
> pics.
>
> HJ
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Walter"<walter@> wrote:
> >> Thanks, Lance. I'm trying to get the word out about Phil's great boats in my own small way.
> >>
> >> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "lancefgunderson"<lancefgunderson@> wrote:
> >>>
> >
> > You'll be astounded to learn, as Mait was, that I bought yet another Bolger Black Skimmer a few years ago and have been cruising in it. My intention was, in my old age, to not own any more big boats, but this one sort of showed up at my door and I couldn't resist. This one was built by a fellow named McCarthy who lived in the Newburyport area.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Bolger rules!!!
> > - NO "GO AWAY SPAMMER!" posts!!! Please!
> > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, respamming, or flogging dead horses
> > - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> > - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> > - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> > - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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Lance
Do you have any pictures on line, you can't have to many Black Skimmer
pics.
HJ
Do you have any pictures on line, you can't have to many Black Skimmer
pics.
HJ
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Walter"<walter@...> wrote:
>> Thanks, Lance. I'm trying to get the word out about Phil's great boats in my own small way.
>>
>> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "lancefgunderson"<lancefgunderson@> wrote:
>>>
>
> You'll be astounded to learn, as Mait was, that I bought yet another Bolger Black Skimmer a few years ago and have been cruising in it. My intention was, in my old age, to not own any more big boats, but this one sort of showed up at my door and I couldn't resist. This one was built by a fellow named McCarthy who lived in the Newburyport area.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - NO "GO AWAY SPAMMER!" posts!!! Please!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, respamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Walter" <walter@...> wrote:
>You'll be astounded to learn, as Mait was, that I bought yet another Bolger Black Skimmer a few years ago and have been cruising in it. My intention was, in my old age, to not own any more big boats, but this one sort of showed up at my door and I couldn't resist. This one was built by a fellow named McCarthy who lived in the Newburyport area.
> Thanks, Lance. I'm trying to get the word out about Phil's great boats in my own small way.
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "lancefgunderson" <lancefgunderson@> wrote:
> >
> > Great blog Walter! I enjoyed the photos of Dakini and Tashtego.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Walter <walter@...> wrote:
photos of Power Catamaran #480.
>Thanks for putting up this website! I really enjoyed seeing the
>
>
>http://www.oldwharf.com/bolger/blog.pl
>
photos of Power Catamaran #480.
Thanks, Lance. I'm trying to get the word out about Phil's great boats in my own small way.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "lancefgunderson" <lancefgunderson@...> wrote:
>
> Great blog Walter! I enjoyed the photos of Dakini and Tashtego.
> > >
> >
>
Great blog Walter! I enjoyed the photos of Dakini and Tashtego.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Walter" <walter@...> wrote:
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>http://www.oldwharf.com/bolger/blog.pl
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> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "c.ruzer" <c.ruzer@> wrote:
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> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Walter" <walter@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mait just turned 75. It is this second owner who is selling the boat
> > > now. I have a few photos, will try to post a couple here, and in the
> > > Bolger section of my web site.
> >
> > Please - a link to your Bolger section.
> >
>
Walter,
That explains why you call yourself wearydwarf
I was wondering about that lol!
Nels
That explains why you call yourself wearydwarf
I was wondering about that lol!
Nels
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Walter" <walter@...> wrote:
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>http://www.oldwharf.com/bolger/blog.pl
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> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "c.ruzer" c.ruzer@ wrote:
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> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Walter" <walter@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mait just turned 75. It is this second owner who is selling the
boat
> > > now. I have a few photos, will try to post a couple here, and in
the
> > > Bolger section of my web site.
> >
> > Please - a link to your Bolger section.
> >
>
http://www.oldwharf.com/bolger/blog.pl
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "c.ruzer" <c.ruzer@...> wrote:
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> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Walter" <walter@> wrote:
> >
> > Mait just turned 75. It is this second owner who is selling the boat
> > now. I have a few photos, will try to post a couple here, and in the
> > Bolger section of my web site.
>
> Please - a link to your Bolger section.
>
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Walter" <walter@...> wrote:
>Please - a link to your Bolger section.
> Mait just turned 75. It is this second owner who is selling the boat
> now. I have a few photos, will try to post a couple here, and in the
> Bolger section of my web site.
Hi - again, I'm the guy that built Dakini for Mait Edey. He was a partner with Peter Duff in the boatbuilding company called "Edey and Duff". He got to know Phil when they had the Stone Horse sloop re-designed for fiberglass. Phil did that work, and also designed the Dovekie, which E&D produced for many years. Mait wrote most of the copy for both boats, his pamphlet on the Stone Horse is a classic on small boat cruising. They did pretty much design Dakini together, which is what Phil did with a lot of commissions. There was some trouble with the handling of the boat originally, but Phil designed a new rudder, which I built, which pretty much dealt with the problem. Mait kept the boat for about 20 years, so I guess it did OK. She was built of 1/2"fir marine plywood,doubled on the bottom, Honduras Mahogany framing. Gaff yawl rig, solid Sitka Spruce spars.It had about 1,000 lbs of lead ballast, long bars secured athwartships in the deepest part of the boat, which was not deep. Twin centerboards, as mentioned before. I posted 3 photos in the "Photos" section,http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/photos/album/1683352429/pic/list,in the album "Dakini".
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "etap28" <dave.irland@...> wrote:
>
> I'm pretty familiar with Dakini, saw it every day for years, and watched it sail often. I bought a Great Pelican off the owner several years ago. Former brains and $ behind Edey and Duff. Very boaty guy. Last time I saw him was two summers ago rowing a Gull in Lake Tashmoo. He co-designed the boat with Bolger is the story I heard. Imagine a very very long Gloucester gull, made out of real wood (I'm pretty sure), fairly skinny looking like a gull, with cabin amidships. The cabin sides are flush with the gunwhales and painted white; forest green hull; two or three portholes in the cabin sides, with coamings that complete the transition between cabin and sheerline--no side decks. I believe it had a yawl rig but can't recall whether it was sprit boomed or gaff or what. Attractive, curved bow, I think a fairly narrow-looking tombstone transom. All in all it's an unusual looking boat, but once you get used to it, not bad.
>
> She's a great sailing boat. I saw the boat in at least one very brisk Moffet Race, probably blowing 20 plus, and it did great. If you don't know, that's open water, Vineyard Sound, big tides and rips and waves. I don't know what it's ballasted with, but I suspect it's a very shoal boat--something keeps it on its feet and it goes pretty good. Surprisingly so. Does not have leeboards.
>
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Hugo Tyson <hhetyson@> wrote:
> >
> > "One Man's Shorey"......was the title of the WB article if I remember correctly.
> > The hull is a cross between a sharpie and dory, hence "Shorey". An odd looking
> > craft with pointy bow and either gaff yawl or ketch rig. From memory it had a
> > jib so wasn't a cat ketch or yawl. No leeboards if I remember right and a raised
> > deck to give more cabin space
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: prairiedog2332 <arvent@>
> > To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Mon, 17 January, 2011 4:49:46 PM
> > Subject: [bolger] DAKINI
> >
> > Â
> > I noticed in the latest WB classified that DAKINI is for sale.
> > Unfortunately no photo accompanies the ad."A 34' 6" DORY/SHARPIE cross,
> > designed by Phil Bolger." Says it appeared in WB92.
> >
> > Anybody remember it?
> >
> > I did find - when Googling - some nice photos of his REDWING as well as
> > some other great photos. What a beauty!
> >
> >http://picasaweb.google.com/MacDuff66/Redwing#
> >
> > Nels
> >
>
I'm pretty familiar with Dakini, saw it every day for years, and watched it sail often. I bought a Great Pelican off the owner several years ago. Former brains and $ behind Edey and Duff. Very boaty guy. Last time I saw him was two summers ago rowing a Gull in Lake Tashmoo. He co-designed the boat with Bolger is the story I heard. Imagine a very very long Gloucester gull, made out of real wood (I'm pretty sure), fairly skinny looking like a gull, with cabin amidships. The cabin sides are flush with the gunwhales and painted white; forest green hull; two or three portholes in the cabin sides, with coamings that complete the transition between cabin and sheerline--no side decks. I believe it had a yawl rig but can't recall whether it was sprit boomed or gaff or what. Attractive, curved bow, I think a fairly narrow-looking tombstone transom. All in all it's an unusual looking boat, but once you get used to it, not bad.
She's a great sailing boat. I saw the boat in at least one very brisk Moffet Race, probably blowing 20 plus, and it did great. If you don't know, that's open water, Vineyard Sound, big tides and rips and waves. I don't know what it's ballasted with, but I suspect it's a very shoal boat--something keeps it on its feet and it goes pretty good. Surprisingly so. Does not have leeboards.
She's a great sailing boat. I saw the boat in at least one very brisk Moffet Race, probably blowing 20 plus, and it did great. If you don't know, that's open water, Vineyard Sound, big tides and rips and waves. I don't know what it's ballasted with, but I suspect it's a very shoal boat--something keeps it on its feet and it goes pretty good. Surprisingly so. Does not have leeboards.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Hugo Tyson <hhetyson@...> wrote:
>
> "One Man's Shorey"......was the title of the WB article if I remember correctly.
> The hull is a cross between a sharpie and dory, hence "Shorey". An odd looking
> craft with pointy bow and either gaff yawl or ketch rig. From memory it had a
> jib so wasn't a cat ketch or yawl. No leeboards if I remember right and a raised
> deck to give more cabin space
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: prairiedog2332 <arvent@...>
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, 17 January, 2011 4:49:46 PM
> Subject: [bolger] DAKINI
>
> Â
> I noticed in the latest WB classified that DAKINI is for sale.
> Unfortunately no photo accompanies the ad."A 34' 6" DORY/SHARPIE cross,
> designed by Phil Bolger." Says it appeared in WB92.
>
> Anybody remember it?
>
> I did find - when Googling - some nice photos of his REDWING as well as
> some other great photos. What a beauty!
>
>http://picasaweb.google.com/MacDuff66/Redwing#
>
> Nels
>
Hi - I am the guy that built Dakini for Mait Edey in the '80's. It was/is a cross between a sharpie and a dory, gaff yawl with a jib. It had twin centerboards, and an outboard in a well. Simple interior. There was an article in WoodenBoat, issue # 92, p.96, written by Mait. He sailed the boat for about 20 years , around Martha's Vineyard mostly. He sold the boat a few years ago, due to health problems. Mait just turned 75. It is this second owner who is selling the boat now. I have a few photos, will try to post a couple here, and in the Bolger section of my web site.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "prairiedog2332" <arvent@...> wrote:
>
> I noticed in the latest WB classified that DAKINI is for sale.
> Unfortunately no photo accompanies the ad."A 34' 6" DORY/SHARPIE cross,
> designed by Phil Bolger." Says it appeared in WB92.
>
> Anybody remember it?
>
> I did find - when Googling - some nice photos of his REDWING as well as
> some other great photos. What a beauty!
>
>http://picasaweb.google.com/MacDuff66/Redwing#
>
> Nels
>
Hi Hugo,
An unusual feature is that the boat uses two centerboards. The forward board divides the forward end of the cabin into two tunnels that appear about bunk-length if I recall. The remainder of the cabin is all open with a small bench for the galley. Looks like room to make a comfortable double on the floor. The aft board is under the cockpit floor, which is below the deckline but has no footwell - you sit flat on the floorboards as you would in something like Windsprint or Jinni. I believe a portable toilet is stowed under the cockpit floor and slid forward into the cabin for use.
The raked transom has a cutout for an outboard, with the mizzen stepped just forward of that along with the rudderpost. The rudder is inboard and skeg-hung like that on the Presto-style cartoon in the "Bed and Breakfast, Sail" chapter in BWAOM. Apparently the boat did not handle well during trials and later a larger skeg was added to this rudder that supposedly cured the problem.
The article in WB is from the mid to late 80's and was one of my first exposures to PCB's work. I have read it many times and always admired this design. It's long, low, lean, and sleek to my eye. I think a fellow of modest means could go a long ways in a boat like that, despite the lack of headroom and footwell.
The article also shows an earlier concept for the client that turned out to be too expensive for him. It's a similar hull, but schooner rigged and 45'. There's one large centerboard in a cockpit forward of the mainmast, a small double berth cabin forward, with a main cabin abaft the mainmast for galley and seating. Think of the Breakdown Schooner layout, but even more Spartan, and hypnotically sleek and sexy. The owner of this boat would have to be prepared for lots of attention wherever he went. Positively stunning, but probably not a finished design.
I can dig up the WB volume number if somebody is interested.
Jon
> "One Man's Shorey"......was the title of the WB article if I remember correctly.This boat looks quite a bit like the Long Light Dory, but at 34', deep-bellied, and with a raised deck cabin from about amidships forward to a self-draining well. The rig is a gaff yawl, with the mainmast far forward and a small jib relative to the main, plus corresponding mizzen to balance everything.
> The hull is a cross between a sharpie and dory, hence "Shorey". An odd looking
> craft with pointy bow and either gaff yawl or ketch rig. From memory it had a
> jib so wasn't a cat ketch or yawl. No leeboards if I remember right and a raised
> deck to give more cabin space
An unusual feature is that the boat uses two centerboards. The forward board divides the forward end of the cabin into two tunnels that appear about bunk-length if I recall. The remainder of the cabin is all open with a small bench for the galley. Looks like room to make a comfortable double on the floor. The aft board is under the cockpit floor, which is below the deckline but has no footwell - you sit flat on the floorboards as you would in something like Windsprint or Jinni. I believe a portable toilet is stowed under the cockpit floor and slid forward into the cabin for use.
The raked transom has a cutout for an outboard, with the mizzen stepped just forward of that along with the rudderpost. The rudder is inboard and skeg-hung like that on the Presto-style cartoon in the "Bed and Breakfast, Sail" chapter in BWAOM. Apparently the boat did not handle well during trials and later a larger skeg was added to this rudder that supposedly cured the problem.
The article in WB is from the mid to late 80's and was one of my first exposures to PCB's work. I have read it many times and always admired this design. It's long, low, lean, and sleek to my eye. I think a fellow of modest means could go a long ways in a boat like that, despite the lack of headroom and footwell.
The article also shows an earlier concept for the client that turned out to be too expensive for him. It's a similar hull, but schooner rigged and 45'. There's one large centerboard in a cockpit forward of the mainmast, a small double berth cabin forward, with a main cabin abaft the mainmast for galley and seating. Think of the Breakdown Schooner layout, but even more Spartan, and hypnotically sleek and sexy. The owner of this boat would have to be prepared for lots of attention wherever he went. Positively stunning, but probably not a finished design.
I can dig up the WB volume number if somebody is interested.
Jon
"One Man's Shorey"......was the title of the WB article if I remember correctly. The hull is a cross between a sharpie and dory, hence "Shorey". An odd looking craft with pointy bow and either gaff yawl or ketch rig. From memory it had a jib so wasn't a cat ketch or yawl. No leeboards if I remember right and a raised deck to give more cabin space
From:prairiedog2332 <arvent@...>
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent:Mon, 17 January, 2011 4:49:46 PM
Subject:[bolger] DAKINI
I noticed in the latest WB classified that DAKINI is for sale.
Unfortunately no photo accompanies the ad."A 34' 6" DORY/SHARPIE cross,
designed by Phil Bolger." Says it appeared in WB92.
Anybody remember it?
I did find - when Googling - some nice photos of his REDWING as well as
some other great photos. What a beauty!
http://picasaweb.google.com/MacDuff66/Redwing#
Nels
I noticed in the latest WB classified that DAKINI is for sale.
Unfortunately no photo accompanies the ad."A 34' 6" DORY/SHARPIE cross,
designed by Phil Bolger." Says it appeared in WB92.
Anybody remember it?
I did find - when Googling - some nice photos of his REDWING as well as
some other great photos. What a beauty!
http://picasaweb.google.com/MacDuff66/Redwing#
Nels
Unfortunately no photo accompanies the ad."A 34' 6" DORY/SHARPIE cross,
designed by Phil Bolger." Says it appeared in WB92.
Anybody remember it?
I did find - when Googling - some nice photos of his REDWING as well as
some other great photos. What a beauty!
http://picasaweb.google.com/MacDuff66/Redwing#
Nels