Re: [bolger] Re: ROMP

 

Hugo,

Great to hear from you as I always enjoy your posts and photos and would
like to go to Taz one day. Do you ever attend the wood boat show there?

I agree that "tender" is a relative term. Sometimes bending like a
willow rather than resisting like an oak is what gets one through the
storm without breaking.

In another post I saw photos of an NIS26 which I have an article about
somewhere in my files as having sailed Bass Strait successfully.

http://onthetide.net/photos.html

Any updates on the lobster design? I don't recall any photos of the
finished boat.

Cheers!

Nels

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Hugo Tyson <hhetyson@...> wrote:
>
> The link takes us  to a site that is of a boat that looks like a
"Romp"..but its
> definately not a "Romp" as designed by Bolger. From the photos
the hull looks
> too crude...very full in the bow,the transom is quite different from
"Romps."..I
> guess the designer/builder was inspired by Bolger's "Romp" and made
some
> modifications.
>
> In response to the statement that Romp is "Tender" ( from another
post) this is
> only true to a certain extent. She does heel at a greater angle than
most...but
> then settles down.
>
> My father built "Beluga"..now named  "Beluga Too" and we had some
great sails in
> her in Bass Strait, dropping off waves in a stiff breeze under full
sail when
> really we should have had a reef tied in.
>
> I can't work out why a new rudder needed to be made as the rudder as
designed
> worked fine for us!
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Now Fubar now_fubar@...
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 19 January, 2011 5:06:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: ROMP
>
> Â
> Here is a site of a ROMP currently being built.
>
>http://humeandbell.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: pkortlucke pkortlucke@...
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 5:04:01 AM
> Subject: [bolger] Re: ROMP
>
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>
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> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "prairiedog2332" arvent@ wrote:
> >
> > Also came across an older article on BELUGA TOO - builder Bruce
Tyson's
> > ROMP, originally from Tasmania.
> >
> >http://www.thecoastalpassage.com/papers/tcp22.pdf
> >
> > Nels
> >
> My brother now owns it. Some photos can be seen in the photos section,
> predictably under Romp.
>
> Cheers
> Peter
>

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Hugo Tyson <hhetyson@...> wrote:

>
> My father built "Beluga"..now named  "Beluga Too" and we had some great sails in her in Bass Strait, dropping off waves in a stiff breeze under full sail when really we should have had a reef tied in.

For those of us up north, Bass Strait is notoriously rough!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_Strait#Conditions

Indeed, I am guessing that the strength of Romp isn't her ability to
win a club race on windward performance but rather her strength is her
seaworthiness.

And a great exposition on just how much is involved in building a boat this size by a homebuilder. Looks like he has some good help.

HJ

On 1/18/2011 9:06 AM, Now Fubar wrote:

Here is a site of a ROMP currently being built.

 

http://humeandbell.blogspot.com/

 

 

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From:pkortlucke<pkortlucke@...>
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent:Mon, January 17, 2011 5:04:01 AM
Subject:[bolger] Re: ROMP

 

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "prairiedog2332"<arvent@...>wrote:
>
> Also came across an older article on BELUGA TOO - builder Bruce Tyson's
> ROMP, originally from Tasmania.
>
>http://www.thecoastalpassage.com/papers/tcp22.pdf
>
> Nels
>
My brother now owns it. Some photos can be seen in the photos section, predictably under Romp.

Cheers
Peter

Hi Ron

Here's a write up of one regatta with pictures...quite a few of Beluga Too with the new paint job. It shows the mix of the fleet. Usually there are a few more smaller boats around 28-30 ft. Not sure I could name the designs.
http://www.sarcoidosis.com.au/wordpress/?p=221
Cheers
Peter

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Ron Badley <sn1834@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> Great info. Thanks!
>
> What other boats race in the fleet?
>
> RonB.
>
>
> On 17-Jan-11, at 12:32 PM, pkortlucke wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I've been on it in a few races with the classic boat fleet here,
> > quite a few similar sized wooden boats, mostly gaff rigged. Romp is
> > certainly at the slower end of the fleet, but considered a bit of an
> > off wind flyer (especially with that little flat cut spinnaker). To
> > windward is a bit disappointing...she's a bit too tender, requires
> > reefing early and just doesn't have quite enough drive to get
> > through the short half to 1 metre chop common on the bay here in
> > Brisbane.
> >
> > She's usually one of the last boats to the windward mark but catches
> > up off the breeze. Tacking angle is as good as any other boat in the
> > fleet. The original rudder has been replaced with a deeper kick up
> > rudder which is a significant improvement- much lighter helm. Self
> > steering qualities are good.
> >
> > HTH
> > Peter
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Ron Badley <sn1834@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Peter,
> >>
> >> Any chance of a first hand sailing qualities report?
> >>
> >> RonB.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 17-Jan-11, at 2:04 AM, pkortlucke wrote:
> >>>>
> >>> My brother now owns it. Some photos can be seen in the photos
> >>> section, predictably under Romp.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Peter
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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Hi Peter,

Great info. Thanks!

What other boats race in the fleet?

RonB.

On 17-Jan-11, at 12:32 PM, pkortlucke wrote:

>
>
> I've been on it in a few races with the classic boat fleet here,
> quite a few similar sized wooden boats, mostly gaff rigged. Romp is
> certainly at the slower end of the fleet, but considered a bit of an
> off wind flyer (especially with that little flat cut spinnaker). To
> windward is a bit disappointing...she's a bit too tender, requires
> reefing early and just doesn't have quite enough drive to get
> through the short half to 1 metre chop common on the bay here in
> Brisbane.
>
> She's usually one of the last boats to the windward mark but catches
> up off the breeze. Tacking angle is as good as any other boat in the
> fleet. The original rudder has been replaced with a deeper kick up
> rudder which is a significant improvement- much lighter helm. Self
> steering qualities are good.
>
> HTH
> Peter
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Ron Badley <sn1834@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> Any chance of a first hand sailing qualities report?
>>
>> RonB.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 17-Jan-11, at 2:04 AM, pkortlucke wrote:
>>>>
>>> My brother now owns it. Some photos can be seen in the photos
>>> section, predictably under Romp.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Peter
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - NO "GO AWAY SPAMMER!" posts!!! Please!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, respamming, or flogging
> dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred'
> posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930,
> Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

I've been on it in a few races with the classic boat fleet here, quite a few similar sized wooden boats, mostly gaff rigged. Romp is certainly at the slower end of the fleet, but considered a bit of an off wind flyer (especially with that little flat cut spinnaker). To windward is a bit disappointing...she's a bit too tender, requires reefing early and just doesn't have quite enough drive to get through the short half to 1 metre chop common on the bay here in Brisbane.

She's usually one of the last boats to the windward mark but catches up off the breeze. Tacking angle is as good as any other boat in the fleet. The original rudder has been replaced with a deeper kick up rudder which is a significant improvement- much lighter helm. Self steering qualities are good.

HTH
Peter

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Ron Badley <sn1834@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> Any chance of a first hand sailing qualities report?
>
> RonB.
>
>
>
> On 17-Jan-11, at 2:04 AM, pkortlucke wrote:
> >>
> > My brother now owns it. Some photos can be seen in the photos
> > section, predictably under Romp.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Peter
> >
>

Hi Peter,

Any chance of a first hand sailing qualities report?

RonB.

On 17-Jan-11, at 2:04 AM, pkortlucke wrote:
>>
> My brother now owns it. Some photos can be seen in the photos
> section, predictably under Romp.
>
> Cheers
> Peter
>

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "prairiedog2332" <arvent@...> wrote:

>
> Also came across an older article on BELUGA TOO - builder Bruce Tyson's
> ROMP, originally from Tasmania.
>
>http://www.thecoastalpassage.com/papers/tcp22.pdf
>
> Nels
>

My brother now owns it. Some photos can be seen in the photos section, predictably under Romp.

Cheers
Peter

Also came across an older article on BELUGA TOO - builder Bruce Tyson's
ROMP, originally from Tasmania.

http://www.thecoastalpassage.com/papers/tcp22.pdf

Nels