Re: [bolger] Re: Re. DAKINI
FWIW, I owned the presto boat Sam
Crocker-designed Macaw in the '80's. She has a relatively
short rig and was not fast, but a very good sea boat. Easy motion
and very dry. Her worst property was being hard-mouthed in a
quartering wind and sea.
- Peter McCorison
- Peter McCorison
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, jalo@... wrote:
A ride on a Munroe Egret built by Bill Schwicker (to the Chapelle plan version, WB#56?) with for 'n aft boards seems to have been the clincher after much observation and thought. Three big influences were the Chapelle 1890's Bostonian Italian fishermens' 27' two-masted dory, the Egret, and Presto Type by Munro. There were numerous other influences LF Herreshoff, Colvin, Clapham.... and on.
He knew what he wanted, and looks like he had PCB draw the lines. He knew he could get beauty there, had great respect for the artist, but differing theories of sharpie hull form. $25k in 1985. High priority on singlehanding. Proved hard mouthed. A deeper rudder (retaining the Bolger endplate) and added skeg fixed things. Mait wrote the boat looked good, went well, cruised great (5 weeks), was comfortable, and after 35 years she satisfied his needs better than any other boat he'd ever sailed. She lacked headroom, didn't win racing cups - even so, he was mystified as to why such boats were seen so rarely. 35years of sailing many other boats.
In the following WB#93 issue in correspondence headed "Dorpy Comparison" (cf 'shorey' above) an Egret (this one to the WB version WB#71) owner/builder, Bob Jones, noted that after discussing sharpie rudder issues with Jon Wilson, Mike Obrien, Bruce Kirby, and recently counseled then by Joel White he would be fitting a rudder similar to that of Dakini. (Ply, but planked topsides finished bright inside. $33k total, including $20k labour @ $20/hr x 1000, $5885 lumber, $1600 sails and canvas. 100 years befoe, in 1885, his grandfather had a 30ft Clapham nonpareil sharpie delivered downcoast to the dock by Clapham himself for $330!)
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Searching 92 for more 'bolger' I noticed this:
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WB#92, Jan/Feb 1990, LAUNCHINGS, p116 (a famous photo p115)
23'6"Birdwatcher (Photo 10), built byJim Michalek of Lebanon, Illinois, to Phil Bolger's design. Described in WoodenBoat No. 86, this unique, trailerable, extremely shoal-draft cruiser is one ofBolger's favourite designs. Michalek's project consumed less than $2000 for materials---including sail and trailer. I'll wager that he'll get a lot of sailing for the money.
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>True that. Jan/Feb 1990, #92, p96.
> The article was in a winter issue of WB in 1990 (I think).
A ride on a Munroe Egret built by Bill Schwicker (to the Chapelle plan version, WB#56?) with for 'n aft boards seems to have been the clincher after much observation and thought. Three big influences were the Chapelle 1890's Bostonian Italian fishermens' 27' two-masted dory, the Egret, and Presto Type by Munro. There were numerous other influences LF Herreshoff, Colvin, Clapham.... and on.
He knew what he wanted, and looks like he had PCB draw the lines. He knew he could get beauty there, had great respect for the artist, but differing theories of sharpie hull form. $25k in 1985. High priority on singlehanding. Proved hard mouthed. A deeper rudder (retaining the Bolger endplate) and added skeg fixed things. Mait wrote the boat looked good, went well, cruised great (5 weeks), was comfortable, and after 35 years she satisfied his needs better than any other boat he'd ever sailed. She lacked headroom, didn't win racing cups - even so, he was mystified as to why such boats were seen so rarely. 35years of sailing many other boats.
In the following WB#93 issue in correspondence headed "Dorpy Comparison" (cf 'shorey' above) an Egret (this one to the WB version WB#71) owner/builder, Bob Jones, noted that after discussing sharpie rudder issues with Jon Wilson, Mike Obrien, Bruce Kirby, and recently counseled then by Joel White he would be fitting a rudder similar to that of Dakini. (Ply, but planked topsides finished bright inside. $33k total, including $20k labour @ $20/hr x 1000, $5885 lumber, $1600 sails and canvas. 100 years befoe, in 1885, his grandfather had a 30ft Clapham nonpareil sharpie delivered downcoast to the dock by Clapham himself for $330!)
> I still have it somewhere. There was also a full feature on BolgerTrue too. Brilliant, perceptive, another on PCB by Dan Segal. Well worth reading again. Bio, boat design, The Wealth of Nations, Korean foulweather gear, and mention of those three remaining unpublished novel manuscripts handwritten in lined spiral notebooks...
> himself.
> In one letter Phil sent me when I expressed interest in the designYes, that conclusion can be drawn from the Dakini article in WB#92. You know, I would've thought "Black Gauntlet" - why not? - has flare, beauty, sitting headroom on raised seats for wife, etc...
> he said Dakini was a fine boat but not nearly as good as it
> should have been. The original owner kept insisting on changes
> to the design that Bolger was not happy with. In the end he just
> drew what the owner wanted. But I always admired the boat.
> Jack Bearden
>
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Searching 92 for more 'bolger' I noticed this:
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WB#92, Jan/Feb 1990, LAUNCHINGS, p116 (a famous photo p115)
23'6"Birdwatcher (Photo 10), built byJim Michalek of Lebanon, Illinois, to Phil Bolger's design. Described in WoodenBoat No. 86, this unique, trailerable, extremely shoal-draft cruiser is one ofBolger's favourite designs. Michalek's project consumed less than $2000 for materials---including sail and trailer. I'll wager that he'll get a lot of sailing for the money.
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The article was in a winter issue of WB in 1990 (I think). I still
have it somewhere. There was also a full feature on Bolger himself. In
one letter Phil sent me when I expressed interest in the design he
said Dakini was a fine boat but not nearly as good as it should have
been. The original owner kept insisting on changes to the design that
Bolger was not happy with. In the end he just drew what the owner
wanted. But I always admired the boat.
Jack Bearden
have it somewhere. There was also a full feature on Bolger himself. In
one letter Phil sent me when I expressed interest in the design he
said Dakini was a fine boat but not nearly as good as it should have
been. The original owner kept insisting on changes to the design that
Bolger was not happy with. In the end he just drew what the owner
wanted. But I always admired the boat.
Jack Bearden