Re: Workskiff 15 Changes
That's right Payson's new book has complete building instructions for both the 15 & 18 foot Clamskiffs.
David
David
A sight seeing boat would not need the scantlings of a work boat designed for hard use. The original 18 has been a work boat every summer for, I think Payson said, 18 years and still going strong.
Mr. Bolger said the scantlings in the 18 should carry you safely when half the wood had rotted.
David
Mr. Bolger said the scantlings in the 18 should carry you safely when half the wood had rotted.
David
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "prairiedog2332" <arvent@...> wrote:
>
> Dynamite Payson shows the box seats aft on the 18' version here.
>
>http://instantboats.com/skiff18.htm
>
> Chapter 16 of his book "INSTANT BOATBUILDING" has complete plans,
> plywood layout, materials list and building instructions for this
> version which he calls 18' CLAMSKIFF. It also shows a photo of a model
> with the caption under, "There's plenty of room to modify Clamskiff's
> interior arrangements, and doing it at a model scale is quick, cheap and
> easy."
>
> There is also a photo of his son Neil running it while standing up
> between the two seats while it is planing with a 25 hp motor. However
> the 18' er is a ft. wider. The aft sections of the two seats are filled
> and sealed with flotation foam (as is the enclosed bow) and each forward
> half of the box seats are for the fuel tanks. The central thwart is also
> boxed in either as storage or as an optional steering console.
>
> Chapter 17 shows brief instructions for the 15'6" version with the same
> aft seat layout but narrower and completely flotation filled so no room
> for fuel tanks inside. Of course being narrower it can plane with less
> power. The central seat structure is wider and labeled as a "Locker".
>
> I find it interesting that Jim Michalak has come out with his own
> similar "version" - more designed for site-seeing cruises but would work
> as a fishing boat as well. It has the same parallel topsides aft and a
> central "skid" although not as wide as the Bolger version. Some flare to
> the sides which may make it more comfortable to lean back against.
> Scantlings considerably lighter.
>
>http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/af4casa/index.htm
>
> Nels
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:29 AM, sirdarnell <sirdarnell@...> wrote:
location of the built in flotation being positioned to float the dead
weight of the boat. In this case, the weight of the outboard motor
(in the event of a swamping) would be supported by the foam in the aft
box seats.
>I agree with this guess. A common theme seen in Bolger boats is the
> The box seats: 1 flotation under back half,
location of the built in flotation being positioned to float the dead
weight of the boat. In this case, the weight of the outboard motor
(in the event of a swamping) would be supported by the foam in the aft
box seats.
Dynamite Payson shows the box seats aft on the 18' version here.
http://instantboats.com/skiff18.htm
Chapter 16 of his book "INSTANT BOATBUILDING" has complete plans,
plywood layout, materials list and building instructions for this
version which he calls 18' CLAMSKIFF. It also shows a photo of a model
with the caption under, "There's plenty of room to modify Clamskiff's
interior arrangements, and doing it at a model scale is quick, cheap and
easy."
There is also a photo of his son Neil running it while standing up
between the two seats while it is planing with a 25 hp motor. However
the 18' er is a ft. wider. The aft sections of the two seats are filled
and sealed with flotation foam (as is the enclosed bow) and each forward
half of the box seats are for the fuel tanks. The central thwart is also
boxed in either as storage or as an optional steering console.
Chapter 17 shows brief instructions for the 15'6" version with the same
aft seat layout but narrower and completely flotation filled so no room
for fuel tanks inside. Of course being narrower it can plane with less
power. The central seat structure is wider and labeled as a "Locker".
I find it interesting that Jim Michalak has come out with his own
similar "version" - more designed for site-seeing cruises but would work
as a fishing boat as well. It has the same parallel topsides aft and a
central "skid" although not as wide as the Bolger version. Some flare to
the sides which may make it more comfortable to lean back against.
Scantlings considerably lighter.
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/af4casa/index.htm
Nels
http://instantboats.com/skiff18.htm
Chapter 16 of his book "INSTANT BOATBUILDING" has complete plans,
plywood layout, materials list and building instructions for this
version which he calls 18' CLAMSKIFF. It also shows a photo of a model
with the caption under, "There's plenty of room to modify Clamskiff's
interior arrangements, and doing it at a model scale is quick, cheap and
easy."
There is also a photo of his son Neil running it while standing up
between the two seats while it is planing with a 25 hp motor. However
the 18' er is a ft. wider. The aft sections of the two seats are filled
and sealed with flotation foam (as is the enclosed bow) and each forward
half of the box seats are for the fuel tanks. The central thwart is also
boxed in either as storage or as an optional steering console.
Chapter 17 shows brief instructions for the 15'6" version with the same
aft seat layout but narrower and completely flotation filled so no room
for fuel tanks inside. Of course being narrower it can plane with less
power. The central seat structure is wider and labeled as a "Locker".
I find it interesting that Jim Michalak has come out with his own
similar "version" - more designed for site-seeing cruises but would work
as a fishing boat as well. It has the same parallel topsides aft and a
central "skid" although not as wide as the Bolger version. Some flare to
the sides which may make it more comfortable to lean back against.
Scantlings considerably lighter.
http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/jim/af4casa/index.htm
Nels
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Mark Albanese <marka97203@...> wrote:
>
> I'd expect the box seat version to be more comfortable all 'round.
> You're not perched so precariously and the tiller falls quite nicely
> to hand.
>
>
> On Jan 23, 2011, at 3:12 PM, bgbeck55 wrote:
>
> > I noticed last night that the plans Mr. Bolger used in two MAIB
> > articles on the Workskiff 15, have an interior layout almost
> > exactly like that of the Sea Hawk dory-skiff with two foot wide
> > seats. The current plans retain the two foot seat forward, but two
> > parallel "box" seats aft. I'm wondering why it was changed. Any
> > body know or have an educated guess?
> >
> >
>
The box seats: 1 flotation under back half, 2 allows you to sit comfortably facing starboard and look ahead and behind, thus easily seeing boats you must yield to.
David
David
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bgbeck55" <bgbeck55@...> wrote:
>
> I noticed last night that the plans Mr. Bolger used in two MAIB articles on the Workskiff 15, have an interior layout almost exactly like that of the Sea Hawk dory-skiff with two foot wide seats. The current plans retain the two foot seat forward, but two parallel "box" seats aft. I'm wondering why it was changed. Any body know or have an educated guess?
>
I'd expect the box seat version to be more comfortable all 'round. You're not perched so precariously and the tiller falls quite nicely to hand.
On Jan 23, 2011, at 3:12 PM, bgbeck55 wrote:
I noticed last night that the plans Mr. Bolger used in two MAIB articles on the Workskiff 15, have an interior layout almost exactly like that of the Sea Hawk dory-skiff with two foot wide seats. The current plans retain the two foot seat forward, but two parallel "box" seats aft. I'm wondering why it was changed. Any body know or have an educated guess?
I noticed last night that the plans Mr. Bolger used in two MAIB articles on the Workskiff 15, have an interior layout almost exactly like that of the Sea Hawk dory-skiff with two foot wide seats. The current plans retain the two foot seat forward, but two parallel "box" seats aft. I'm wondering why it was changed. Any body know or have an educated guess?