RE: [bolger] Re: Trying a lapstrake Chebacco
I've been told by one pro boat builders that, yep, 5200 does an excellent
job of gluing the laps. It provides just enough flex so that the strakes
don't crack as they sometimes will when held too firmly by traditional
fastners. I assisted in building a traditional lapstrake hull and anything
beats rivets on the laps and nails on the frames. As far as using plywood,
it should work as long as it is marine grade.
Its not a Bolger type book, but John Gardner's Dory Book is an excellent
reference on lapstrake construction as is Sam Rabl's "Backyard" book.
Hope this helps.
Jim Chamberlin, owner of two new plastic bottles of PL Premium and one
partly finished PS.
job of gluing the laps. It provides just enough flex so that the strakes
don't crack as they sometimes will when held too firmly by traditional
fastners. I assisted in building a traditional lapstrake hull and anything
beats rivets on the laps and nails on the frames. As far as using plywood,
it should work as long as it is marine grade.
Its not a Bolger type book, but John Gardner's Dory Book is an excellent
reference on lapstrake construction as is Sam Rabl's "Backyard" book.
Hope this helps.
Jim Chamberlin, owner of two new plastic bottles of PL Premium and one
partly finished PS.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Vanderwaart [mailto:pvanderw@...]
> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 2:27 PM
> To:bolger@egroups.com
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Trying a lapstrake Chebacco
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> I can only say that I recently saw (probably in a Woodenboat design
> review) a remark by Mike O'Brien that glued lapstrake was a forgiving
> method ideally suited to amateurs.
>
> Peter (who spent the day re-screening the porch)
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> > Unfortunately (never one to pass up a nutty challenge), I'm
> > getting this urge to try building the lapstrake version of the
> boat.
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> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing
> - stay on topic
> - use punctuation
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> - add some content: send "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
>
I've also heard that you have to use good marine plywood for clinker
construction, or else the edges break up.
construction, or else the edges break up.
>
>
> > Unfortunately (never one to pass up a nutty challenge), I'm
> > getting this urge to try building the lapstrake version of the
> boat.
>
I can only say that I recently saw (probably in a Woodenboat design
review) a remark by Mike O'Brien that glued lapstrake was a forgiving
method ideally suited to amateurs.
Peter (who spent the day re-screening the porch)
review) a remark by Mike O'Brien that glued lapstrake was a forgiving
method ideally suited to amateurs.
Peter (who spent the day re-screening the porch)
> Unfortunately (never one to pass up a nutty challenge), I'mboat.
> getting this urge to try building the lapstrake version of the
Garth,
I'm thinking along similar lines -- even unto the 25-foot version.
Iain Oughtred has designed a bunch of nice boats for plywood-lapstrake
construction, and he has a new book out:
"Clinker Plywood Boatbuilding Manual." I have a copy on backorder at Amazon.
-- Wade Leftwich
Ithaca, NY
I'm thinking along similar lines -- even unto the 25-foot version.
Iain Oughtred has designed a bunch of nice boats for plywood-lapstrake
construction, and he has a new book out:
"Clinker Plywood Boatbuilding Manual." I have a copy on backorder at Amazon.
-- Wade Leftwich
Ithaca, NY
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Garth Battista [mailto:garth@...]
> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 10:47 AM
> To:bolger@egroups.com
> Subject: [bolger] Trying a lapstrake Chebacco
>
>
> Hi All --
>
> I've got the fever bad. Only weeks after finishing my Gyspy, I'm
> dreaming of a bigger boat, one to take the family out in (thus
> justifying to the family all this time I spend building boats). And
> much as I'm drawn (like moth to flame) to the Light Schooner, Tim
> Fatchen's pages and other accounts of that boat make me think it's
> too wild for calm family sails, and no good for single-handing.
> David, I hope you'll give us a full report on its handling once you
> launch. By all accounts you need several crew on board, at least one
> for sail handling, and the more the better for ballast.
> But I digress. In the search for a more sensible (read:
> compromise for domestic tranquility) boat, I started reading up on
> Chebacco -- mostly staying up very late devouring all the backissues
> of Bill Samson's Chebacco News. It seems perfect -- beamy, stable,
> light enough to trailer, shallow enough to beach, big enough cockpit
> for a family of four, easy to single-hand when no one else wants to
> go sailing with me, big enough cuddy to send kids below in bad
> weather, but still quite elegant. So I'm pretty fixated on it now.
> Unfortunately (never one to pass up a nutty challenge), I'm
> getting this urge to try building the lapstrake version of the boat.
> I know pretty much nothing about building lapstrake (what the heck is
> a spile?)-- only that I love the way those boats look and would give
> my eye-teeth to have one.
> It seems like a big step to take, going from stich-and-glue to
> lapstrake. Anyone have advice? What are good books or websites to
> read for beginner's instruction? Should I go take one of those boat-
> building courses first? For those who have made the transition -- is
> it a huge leap, or a natural progression? etc. Any advice appreciated.
>
> Yours in the delirious grips of boat-builder's fever,
> Garth
>
>
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing
> - stay on topic
> - use punctuation
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> - add some content: send "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
>
Hi All --
I've got the fever bad. Only weeks after finishing my Gyspy, I'm
dreaming of a bigger boat, one to take the family out in (thus
justifying to the family all this time I spend building boats). And
much as I'm drawn (like moth to flame) to the Light Schooner, Tim
Fatchen's pages and other accounts of that boat make me think it's
too wild for calm family sails, and no good for single-handing.
David, I hope you'll give us a full report on its handling once you
launch. By all accounts you need several crew on board, at least one
for sail handling, and the more the better for ballast.
But I digress. In the search for a more sensible (read:
compromise for domestic tranquility) boat, I started reading up on
Chebacco -- mostly staying up very late devouring all the backissues
of Bill Samson's Chebacco News. It seems perfect -- beamy, stable,
light enough to trailer, shallow enough to beach, big enough cockpit
for a family of four, easy to single-hand when no one else wants to
go sailing with me, big enough cuddy to send kids below in bad
weather, but still quite elegant. So I'm pretty fixated on it now.
Unfortunately (never one to pass up a nutty challenge), I'm
getting this urge to try building the lapstrake version of the boat.
I know pretty much nothing about building lapstrake (what the heck is
a spile?)-- only that I love the way those boats look and would give
my eye-teeth to have one.
It seems like a big step to take, going from stich-and-glue to
lapstrake. Anyone have advice? What are good books or websites to
read for beginner's instruction? Should I go take one of those boat-
building courses first? For those who have made the transition -- is
it a huge leap, or a natural progression? etc. Any advice appreciated.
Yours in the delirious grips of boat-builder's fever,
Garth
I've got the fever bad. Only weeks after finishing my Gyspy, I'm
dreaming of a bigger boat, one to take the family out in (thus
justifying to the family all this time I spend building boats). And
much as I'm drawn (like moth to flame) to the Light Schooner, Tim
Fatchen's pages and other accounts of that boat make me think it's
too wild for calm family sails, and no good for single-handing.
David, I hope you'll give us a full report on its handling once you
launch. By all accounts you need several crew on board, at least one
for sail handling, and the more the better for ballast.
But I digress. In the search for a more sensible (read:
compromise for domestic tranquility) boat, I started reading up on
Chebacco -- mostly staying up very late devouring all the backissues
of Bill Samson's Chebacco News. It seems perfect -- beamy, stable,
light enough to trailer, shallow enough to beach, big enough cockpit
for a family of four, easy to single-hand when no one else wants to
go sailing with me, big enough cuddy to send kids below in bad
weather, but still quite elegant. So I'm pretty fixated on it now.
Unfortunately (never one to pass up a nutty challenge), I'm
getting this urge to try building the lapstrake version of the boat.
I know pretty much nothing about building lapstrake (what the heck is
a spile?)-- only that I love the way those boats look and would give
my eye-teeth to have one.
It seems like a big step to take, going from stich-and-glue to
lapstrake. Anyone have advice? What are good books or websites to
read for beginner's instruction? Should I go take one of those boat-
building courses first? For those who have made the transition -- is
it a huge leap, or a natural progression? etc. Any advice appreciated.
Yours in the delirious grips of boat-builder's fever,
Garth