Re: Sweet lined skiff

Yes. Always a bridesmaid, never a bride. Here's his littleTortoisesized punt that's hard to resist.
Thanks for the Smithsonian flag.

I’ve done copy stand copies of some things by out of business companies where the technical information was never available in anything other than the original printed material. In this case we have a copyright holder and she gets to decide what happens.

 

Bob Hicks of Messing About in Boats has stated that he does not want his material made available so there is only a limited index on line.

 

Susanne if you read this please comment one way or the other on your position. Do you have plans to republish the books? If not, under what conditions would you permit someone or some company to digitize Phil’s writings and make them available again.

 

MylesJ

Many of the lines plans in Sucher's books are striking and graceful,
especially the skiffs and punts, but I haven't heard of many being built
-- except for his light dory which seems to have a good reputation. It
certainly isn't the looker that the Goucester Gull is but is wider on
the bottom and has more initial stability.

The Smithsonian sells larger scale copies of the plans in the two
_Simplified Boatbuilding_ books. They're catalogued in the Ship Plan List:

http://americanhistory.si.edu/csr/shipplan.htm

On 9/29/2011 3:24 PM, mike graf wrote:
> perfect for rowing w/ passenger
>
> Mark Albanese wrote:
>> Looking through digital images to replace a few aging xeroxes taken
>> from Sucher's /Simplified Boat Building/, came across this.
>>
>> *http://tinyurl.com/5v4dd9s*
>>
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perfect for rowing w/ passenger

Mark Albanese wrote:
>
> Looking through digital images to replace a few aging xeroxes taken
> from Sucher's /Simplified Boat Building/, came across this.
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/5v4dd9s*
>
>
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:41 AM, MylesJ. Swift
<mswift@...> wrote:
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>
>
> Google is on a project to digitize all the books in the world.


And, there is an active group of individual hackers devoted to
scanning books. The process is easily and cheaply available to anyone
with a little incentive, and a digital camera.

See here,

http://www.diybookscanner.org/
Looking through digital images to replace a few aging  xeroxes taken from Sucher'sSimplified Boat Building, came across this.

Google is on a project to digitize all the books in the world. They have been making deals with libraries to do the entire library. I’m sure they have some office that deals with getting permission from copyright holders and may be able to give you guidance. They have been going too far without permission and have now realized they need to do more with the copyright holders. The beauty of this approach is that the copyright holders don’t have to do anything if they agree to let Google do it. If there are no plans to re-publish these books this might be a good way to go. Amazon also makes deals with copyright holders to print books to order in which case those copyright holders get paid something.

 

MylesJ

Schorpioenis available from Susanne.  I bought a copy last year.  Good yarn.

 
On Sep 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, apraphett777 wrote:

 

I bought all of Phil's books a coupla years back the one I do not have is scophian sp? the novel LOL I was hoping for a little larger drawing these ole eyes ain't quiet what they used to be :)
I guess I need to get the magnifier out and start transposing LOL

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "c.ruzer" <c.ruzer@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> > was trying to guess his size and trying to gauge how the boat was
> > trimmed as to whether I wanted to start the lofting :) thanks again
> > guys
>
> And will you?
>
> Again, there's a "Buy it now" Small Boats on ebay with
>
> 12h 31m 03s
>
> left on the clock. I'd say it's a pretty fair price at $32.98 for the stated condition.
>
> Free postage within USA too! (but a pricy ripoff asked for postage to here).
>
> The Kotic plans inside should be quite ok, and with that there's also lots more!
>
>
> Item number: 230666318294
> Item location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States
>


I bought all of Phil's books a coupla years back the one I do not have is scophian sp? the novel LOL I was hoping for a little larger drawing these ole eyes ain't quiet what they used to be :)
I guess I need to get the magnifier out and start transposing LOL

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "c.ruzer" <c.ruzer@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> > was trying to guess his size and trying to gauge how the boat was
> > trimmed as to whether I wanted to start the lofting :) thanks again
> > guys
>
> And will you?
>
> Again, there's a "Buy it now" Small Boats on ebay with
>
> 12h 31m 03s
>
> left on the clock. I'd say it's a pretty fair price at $32.98 for the stated condition.
>
> Free postage within USA too! (but a pricy ripoff asked for postage to here).
>
> The Kotic plans inside should be quite ok, and with that there's also lots more!
>
>
> Item number: 230666318294
> Item location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States
>
Amazon offers a print on demand service. There are a couple of publishers that pursue an ethic that is parallel to that in PHB's work. Lindsay's Books (http://www.lindsaybks.com/) strikes me as a solid possibility, although their style is a bit more brash.

I would love to see someone show up with a completed Bolger boat at one of the MakerFaires. Technology for cutting precise 2D shapes (laser cutters, CNC routers) has fallen dramatically in price and become widely available over the last ten years... boats that go together quickly from a pile of flat pieces are a really obvious fit to that technology.

-p

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Wayne Gilham at Gig Harbor Yacht Sales<wgilham@...>wrote:


Y’know, at the prices that all of Bolger’s books now out-of-print are selling on eBay or Amazon, Susanne should look into re-publishing them….

There seems to be a small but enthusiastic market for them.  Justifies “boutique” or “vanity-press” printing of small lots, or even one-off computer-printing only on order (somebody offers this, I vaguely remember from other projects)

Would also make a delightful book (or three) to re-publish all the MAIB articles (with bob Hicks’ permission, of course….)

Susanne, are you listening????

Wayne Gilham

From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Ofc.ruzer
Sent:Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:38 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject:[bolger] Re: Kotick /Kayak



> was trying to guess his size and trying to gauge how the boat was
> trimmed as to whether I wanted to start the lofting :) thanks again
> guys

And will you?

Again, there's a "Buy it now" Small Boats on ebay with

12h 31m 03s

left on the clock. I'd say it's a pretty fair price at $32.98 for the stated condition.

Free postage within USA too! (but a pricy ripoff asked for postage to here).

The Kotic plans inside should be quite ok, and with that there's also lots more!

Item number: 230666318294
Item location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States

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LuLu does this and has a good rep, Paul Esterle on this list uses it to publish his books.

http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/pesterle

There might be copy write issues with the original publishers.



HJ

On 9/28/2011 12:59 PM, Wayne Gilham at Gig Harbor Yacht Sales wrote:

Y’know, at the prices that all of Bolger’s books now out-of-print are selling on eBay or Amazon, Susanne should look into re-publishing them….

There seems to be a small but enthusiastic market for them.  Justifies “boutique” or “vanity-press” printing of small lots, or even one-off computer-printing only on order (somebody offers this, I vaguely remember from other projects)

 

Would also make a delightful book (or three) to re-publish all the MAIB articles (with bob Hicks’ permission, of course….)

 

Susanne, are you listening????

 

Wayne Gilham

 


Y’know, at the prices that all of Bolger’s books now out-of-print are selling on eBay or Amazon, Susanne should look into re-publishing them….

There seems to be a small but enthusiastic market for them.  Justifies “boutique” or “vanity-press” printing of small lots, or even one-off computer-printing only on order (somebody offers this, I vaguely remember from other projects)

 

Would also make a delightful book (or three) to re-publish all the MAIB articles (with bob Hicks’ permission, of course….)

 

Susanne, are you listening????

 

Wayne Gilham

 

From:bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Ofc.ruzer
Sent:Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:38 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject:[bolger] Re: Kotick /Kayak

 

 



> was trying to guess his size and trying to gauge how the boat was
> trimmed as to whether I wanted to start the lofting :) thanks again
> guys

And will you?

Again, there's a "Buy it now" Small Boats on ebay with

12h 31m 03s

left on the clock. I'd say it's a pretty fair price at $32.98 for the stated condition.

Free postage within USA too! (but a pricy ripoff asked for postage to here).

The Kotic plans inside should be quite ok, and with that there's also lots more!

Item number: 230666318294
Item location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States

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Checked by AVG -www.avg.com
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> was trying to guess his size and trying to gauge how the boat was
> trimmed as to whether I wanted to start the lofting :) thanks again
> guys

And will you?

Again, there's a "Buy it now" Small Boats on ebay with

12h 31m 03s

left on the clock. I'd say it's a pretty fair price at $32.98 for the stated condition.

Free postage within USA too! (but a pricy ripoff asked for postage to here).

The Kotic plans inside should be quite ok, and with that there's also lots more!


Item number: 230666318294
Item location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States
thanks we are about the same size Bruce. I did not realize what size Mr Bolger was. I saw the piccy of Him in kotick and was trying to guess his size and trying to gauge how the boat was trimmed as to whether I wanted to start the lofting :) thanks again guys

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, BruceHallman <hallman@...> wrote:
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> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:27 AM, apraphett777 <djsaprophet@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > does anyone know how much weight Kotick was designed to carry? Were there ever any type of plans drawn ? TIA guys
> >
>
>
> Kotick was designed by Phil Bolger for Phil Bolger, and just guessing,
> he was about 5ft9in/160lbs. I built a Kotick, and me being
> 6ft0in/200lbs I find Kotick just a bit snug, but it still is great for
> me.
>
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:27 AM, apraphett777 <djsaprophet@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> does anyone know how much weight Kotick was designed to carry? Were there ever any type of plans drawn ? TIA guys
>


Kotick was designed by Phil Bolger for Phil Bolger, and just guessing,
he was about 5ft9in/160lbs. I built a Kotick, and me being
6ft0in/200lbs I find Kotick just a bit snug, but it still is great for
me.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "apraphett777" <djsaprophet@...> wrote:
>
> does anyone know how much weight Kotick was designed to carry? Were there ever any type of plans drawn ? TIA guys
>


Plans for Kotik are in Small Boats. Edey & Duff made some fiberglass copies of Kotik. Dynamite Payson built the prototype. PCB used Kotik a lot and seemed happy with her.
does anyone know how much weight Kotick was designed to carry? Were there ever any type of plans drawn ? TIA guys