Re: Oldshoe - rudder bottom plate and other things

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "David" <dir_cobb@...> wrote:
>
> Nels
>
> I too have looked at Supermouse and the Japanese Beach Cruiser as half
brother and sisters to Oldshoe. The house installation is tempting.
However, in the end, she sails so well as she is that I am not really
tempted to mess with her. I am more tempted to build another bigger boat
if I want a cuddy and sleeping space. Riging the poles and a tent over
the cockpit would not be at all difficult although I really don't see
the need (except possibly for fun).
>
> I took her sailing in the Quintero bay (the large bay North of
Quintero, Chile) for a first time in the sea and she generated far more
positive comments when she got back than when we were taking her out.
She effectively silenced all those who had laughed and gave us a really
nice ride.
>
> People were fascinated by the unstayed lightweight mast and the cat
yawl rig. She gave us a really good ride for our money in a busy bay
with plenty of large ships to sail round.
>
> In my experience Oldshoe is so unbelievable that she generates more
real interest than any other boat I have seen. Oldshoe turns heads
wherever she goes and people really cannot believe she goes the way she
does.
>
>
> David

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "prairiedog2332" <arvent@...> wrote:
>
>
> David,
>
> Thanks for sharing your mods and experience sailing Oldshoe.
>
> I had the plans once and sold them - after buying a Micro - to a guy in
> Oz (I think), Wish I had kept them as I moved and cannot find a suitable
> launch spot for the Micro. No secure rental slips close and even the
> ones further away are very expensive and with waiting lists.
>
> Have you considered an overhead shelter addition like suggested on the
> plans? I think PCB&F mentioned a small house addition - something like a
> truck cap in a MAIB article one time. Maybe like Supermouse shown in
> BWAOM? Every time I look at Supermouse think that might work on
> Oldshoe. Just bolt it on if planning an overnighter, leave it home when
> day sailing.
>
>http://www.boatdesign.com/micro/letters/mnl07.htm
> <http://www.boatdesign.com/micro/letters/mnl07.htm>
>
> Nels
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "David" <dir_cobb@> wrote:
> >
> > After two seasons sailing Oldshoe with the original rudder
> configuration I added a bottom plate as later advocated by Bolger and
> included in most of his later shallow rudder boats.
> >
> > I scaled down a little from the Chebacco plans I had and made a plate
> 8" wide by the length of the rudder (about 12") from a piece of 9mm
> plywood. The effect is really noticeable, with the rudder much more
> responsive than before. I found the boat has much less tendency to
> stall.
> >
> > I also added a simple pinboard to enable the tiller to be fixed as per
> plans. This really does turn the Oldshoe into a self-steering little
> cruiser. The only issue I found was that the boat is very sensitive to
> trim, so you effectively determine the course by deciding where to sit,
> as the trim of the boat modifies the underwater profile enormously. I
> have found you really have to create some heel to get her to sail/point
> best.
> >
> > Re-reading BWAOM, I believe this is what Bolger is referring to in his
> story about the lovers in the Micro as he talks about who sleeps where
> when sailing.
> >
> > I have spent many happy hours playing with Oldshoe and experimenting
> with the rig and playing with as many options as I can think of.
> >
> >
> > David
> > Santiago, Chile
> >
>

David,

Thanks for sharing your mods and experience sailing Oldshoe.

I had the plans once and sold them - after buying a Micro - to a guy in Oz (I think), Wish I had kept them as I moved and cannot find a suitable launch spot for the Micro. No secure rental slips close and even the ones further away are very expensive and with waiting lists.

Have you considered an overhead shelter addition like suggested on the plans? I think PCB&F mentioned a small house addition - something like a truck cap in a MAIB article one time. Maybe like Supermouse shown in BWAOM? Every time I look at Supermouse think that might work on Oldshoe. Just bolt it on if planning an overnighter, leave it home when day sailing.

http://www.boatdesign.com/micro/letters/mnl07.htm

Nels

--- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, "David" <dir_cobb@...> wrote:
>
> After two seasons sailing Oldshoe with the original rudder configuration I added a bottom plate as later advocated by Bolger and included in most of his later shallow rudder boats.
>
> I scaled down a little from the Chebacco plans I had and made a plate 8" wide by the length of the rudder (about 12") from a piece of 9mm plywood. The effect is really noticeable, with the rudder much more responsive than before. I found the boat has much less tendency to stall.
>
> I also added a simple pinboard to enable the tiller to be fixed as per plans. This really does turn the Oldshoe into a self-steering little cruiser. The only issue I found was that the boat is very sensitive to trim, so you effectively determine the course by deciding where to sit, as the trim of the boat modifies the underwater profile enormously. I have found you really have to create some heel to get her to sail/point best.
>
> Re-reading BWAOM, I believe this is what Bolger is referring to in his story about the lovers in the Micro as he talks about who sleeps where when sailing.
>
> I have spent many happy hours playing with Oldshoe and experimenting with the rig and playing with as many options as I can think of.
>
>
> David
> Santiago, Chile
>