Scow Schooner....RE: wide AS29
Doug,
Sounds to me like you are perfectly describing a Scow Schooner, or
Sailing Scow (doesn't have to be a schooner). Phil designed several of
these that I know of, and then there ones by Bill Garden (Tillicum),
Pete Culler, George Beuhler, Reuel Parker, along with the historical
documentations of Howard I Chapelle and Harry Sucher.
Phil's 28 foot leeboard scow schooner has always been a favorite of
mine, though as designed I don't think it has the kind of interior
space you want. But a nicely rockered scow hull of about 3 to 1 or so
length to beam ratio, around 32-35 long, with a full width raised deck
cabin amidships, with lower working decks fore and aft (and perhaps
self draining wells, at least in the bow), should give standing
headroom in the cabin. Rig it any way you like; schooner, cat yawl,
lugger, gaff sloop, etc, but I'd have the masts in tabernacles, with
minimal standing rigging. Big high thrust outboard on the centerline
to allow motorsailing on either tack.
Check out Beuhler's "Rufus" for a really simplified version of this
concept.
Bob
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Sounds to me like you are perfectly describing a Scow Schooner, or
Sailing Scow (doesn't have to be a schooner). Phil designed several of
these that I know of, and then there ones by Bill Garden (Tillicum),
Pete Culler, George Beuhler, Reuel Parker, along with the historical
documentations of Howard I Chapelle and Harry Sucher.
Phil's 28 foot leeboard scow schooner has always been a favorite of
mine, though as designed I don't think it has the kind of interior
space you want. But a nicely rockered scow hull of about 3 to 1 or so
length to beam ratio, around 32-35 long, with a full width raised deck
cabin amidships, with lower working decks fore and aft (and perhaps
self draining wells, at least in the bow), should give standing
headroom in the cabin. Rig it any way you like; schooner, cat yawl,
lugger, gaff sloop, etc, but I'd have the masts in tabernacles, with
minimal standing rigging. Big high thrust outboard on the centerline
to allow motorsailing on either tack.
Check out Beuhler's "Rufus" for a really simplified version of this
concept.
Bob
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On Thursday, May 17, 2012, at 09:01 AM,bolger@yahoogroups.comwrote:
> 2f. Re: wider as 29
> Posted by: "Douglas Pollard"dougpol1@...dougpol2
> Date: Wed May 16, 2012 4:56 pm ((PDT))
>
> No, no, no, guys there is nothing in the trimarans. catamearans or
> proa's that could interest an old couple like us. A slow wide boat
> with lots of walking around room seems more suitable to us. I am 78
> years old and am likely to be walking around on board with a walker in
> another ten years. I would likely be better off with a junk rig later
> but would like the speed and ease of handleing with two of bolgers
> sprite boom rigs kind of a bugeye rig, with maybe a top sprit that
> could
> be dropped to scandalize the rig.In a gust of e wind. I started out
> with the idea of a trilo boat with a bottom like the AS 29 rather than
> the flat bottom of the Trillo boat and full standing head room of about
> 6'5". I would have no objection to a center board in a 10 ft wide
> boat. I am more and more thinking about a Trilo boat with the sprite
> rig I have described and some rocker in her bottom. I am concidering
> a
> very modern junk rig as well. For now it's all speculation. I have
> a
> lot of help to put her together but none of them have boat builder
> knowledge. These guys are house builders and will be totally Dependant
> on my boat building know how. We'll see.:-) Doug