Re: [bolger] Re: Bolger index of designs

Hi Scott& All, Scott I believe you are correct, I wasn't quite sure, I SEE it now, thanks. 

From:Scot McPherson <scot.mcpherson@...>
To:"bolger@yahoogroups.com" <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:Sunday, August 26, 2012 9:19 AM
Subject:Re: [bolger] Re: Bolger index of designs



Michael,
I think she meant bhilpolger, not the name of the list.

Scot McPherson, PMP CISSP MCSA
Old Lyme, CT
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On Aug 26, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Michael Walther <michawalth3@...> wrote:

 
Hi All, The proper way to title this is "Index Of Phil Bolger Designs".  It is wonderful & very helpful in studying his works of brilliance. Thanks,  Mike

From:Bill Howard <billh39@...>
To:"bolger@yahoogroups.com" <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Cc:"<bolger@yahoogroups.com>" <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:46 AM
Subject:Re: [bolger] Re: Bolger index of designs



If real, in very poor taste. 

Bill


On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:13 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

 
Is this online-moniker for real ?

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----
Sent:Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:11 AM
Subject:[bolger] Re: Bolger index of designs

 
Just found this listing - how fabulous! Thanks, Bruce!

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, BruceHallman <hallman@...> wrote:
>
> For those who haven't looked of late, I have been proof reading and
> indexing my list of Bolger designs and isometric renderings, now including
> a table of contents for easier navigation... As before, feedback,
> improvement requests and criticism is welcome:
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/isometrics
>









Michael,
I think she meant bhilpolger, not the name of the list.

Scot McPherson, PMP CISSP MCSA
Old Lyme, CT
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 26, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Michael Walther <michawalth3@...> wrote:

 

Hi All, The proper way to title this is "Index Of Phil Bolger Designs".  It is wonderful & very helpful in studying his works of brilliance. Thanks,  Mike

From:Bill Howard <billh39@...>
To:"bolger@yahoogroups.com" <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Cc:"<bolger@yahoogroups.com>" <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:46 AM
Subject:Re: [bolger] Re: Bolger index of designs



If real, in very poor taste. 

Bill


On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:13 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

 
Is this online-moniker for real ?

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----
Sent:Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:11 AM
Subject:[bolger] Re: Bolger index of designs

 
Just found this listing - how fabulous! Thanks, Bruce!

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, BruceHallman <hallman@...> wrote:
>
> For those who haven't looked of late, I have been proof reading and
> indexing my list of Bolger designs and isometric renderings, now including
> a table of contents for easier navigation... As before, feedback,
> improvement requests and criticism is welcome:
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/isometrics
>





Hi All, The proper way to title this is "Index Of Phil Bolger Designs".  It is wonderful & very helpful in studying his works of brilliance. Thanks,  Mike

From:Bill Howard <billh39@...>
To:"bolger@yahoogroups.com" <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Cc:"<bolger@yahoogroups.com>" <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:46 AM
Subject:Re: [bolger] Re: Bolger index of designs



If real, in very poor taste. 

Bill


On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:13 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

 
Is this online-moniker for real ?

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----
Sent:Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:11 AM
Subject:[bolger] Re: Bolger index of designs

 
Just found this listing - how fabulous! Thanks, Bruce!

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, BruceHallman <hallman@...> wrote:
>
> For those who haven't looked of late, I have been proof reading and
> indexing my list of Bolger designs and isometric renderings, now including
> a table of contents for easier navigation... As before, feedback,
> improvement requests and criticism is welcome:
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/isometrics
>





Real alright - once he had a Shearwater too (design just mentioned in this current thread), eg:

Hello, all - just joining the group. I apologize for my screen name -
it was in response to numerous rejections of my proposed names, and I
chose it in a moment of bad judgment - I am not phil bolger or related
to him! that aside, I am a fan of bolger, and have owned 2 dovekies,
a shearwater, an old shoe, a gloucester light dory, and, currently, a
bobcat. The bobcat is for sale, since I want to go up to either a
birdwatcher II or a Jochem's schooner. I happened to know Jim
Michalak when he first built his birdwatcher prototype, and we sailed
my dovekie and his birdwatcher together a few times - the birdwatcher
is really a neat boat. My bobcat: built by Chris Flynn, a
cabinetmaker - pics are on one of the bolger boat pages under "Flynn's
Folly". Well built; $1500 obo, located in Door County Wisconsin. If
anyone is interested, let me know. Dan Knoedler dwknoedler@...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/message/44097
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/message/45812?threaded=1&p=3

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bill Howard <billh39@...> wrote:
> If real, in very poor taste.
> On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:13 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:
> Is this online-moniker for real ?
> From: bhilpholger
> Just found this listing - how fabulous! Thanks, Bruce!
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, BruceHallman <hallman@> wrote:
> >http://hallman.org/bolger/isometrics
I see two posts from this one in 2008 in my inbox.

V/R
Chris

On 8/22/2012 9:13 AM,philbolger@...wrote:
Is this online-moniker for real ?

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----
Sent:Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:11 AM
Subject:[bolger] Re: Bolger index of designs

 

Just found this listing - how fabulous! Thanks, Bruce!

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, BruceHallman<hallman@...>wrote:
>
> For those who haven't looked of late, I have been proof reading and
> indexing my list of Bolger designs and isometric renderings, now including
> a table of contents for easier navigation... As before, feedback,
> improvement requests and criticism is welcome:
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/isometrics
>


Not to be confused with the schooner Shearwater #353.

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, <philbolger@...> wrote:
>
> That would be #461, Bruce.
> Your beautiful models have me all jealous... But there's no time to re-image just about any of the Archive.
>
> Yes, inch-by-inch I'm progressing through my extensive list of must-dos.
> In the meantime you list and images here helps many folks no doubt.
>
> Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: BruceHallman
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Bolger index of designs
>
>
>
> Thanks Mike for the information, updated. I am still missing the
> design number for Shearwater. Anybody know the design number?
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:37 AM, michael <barklakemike@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Bruce:
> > I had Shearwater #12 built by Edey and Duff, completed in Sept 1987. There
> > may have been one or two more at most. 3400 lbs may be the load displacement
> > but she weighed no more than 2300 lbs dry, including 600 lbs of inside lead
> > ballast.
> > Mike
> >
>
That would be #461, Bruce. 
Your beautiful models have me all jealous...  But there's no time to re-image just about any of the Archive.

Yes, inch-by-inch I'm progressing through my extensive list of must-dos.  
In the meantime you list and images here helps many folks no doubt. 

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F 
----- Original Message -----
Sent:Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:20 AM
Subject:Re: [bolger] Re: Bolger index of designs

 

Thanks Mike for the information, updated. I am still missing the
design number for Shearwater. Anybody know the design number?

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:37 AM, michael <barklakemike@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Bruce:
> I had Shearwater #12 built by Edey and Duff, completed in Sept 1987. There
> may have been one or two more at most. 3400 lbs may be the load displacement
> but she weighed no more than 2300 lbs dry, including 600 lbs of inside lead
> ballast.
> Mike
>

Thanks Mike for the information, updated. I am still missing the
design number for Shearwater. Anybody know the design number?

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:37 AM, michael <barklakemike@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Bruce:
> I had Shearwater #12 built by Edey and Duff, completed in Sept 1987. There
> may have been one or two more at most. 3400 lbs may be the load displacement
> but she weighed no more than 2300 lbs dry, including 600 lbs of inside lead
> ballast.
> Mike
>
If real, in very poor taste. 

Bill


On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:13 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

 

Is this online-moniker for real ?

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----
Sent:Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:11 AM
Subject:[bolger] Re: Bolger index of designs

 

Just found this listing - how fabulous! Thanks, Bruce!

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, BruceHallman <hallman@...> wrote:
>
> For those who haven't looked of late, I have been proof reading and
> indexing my list of Bolger designs and isometric renderings, now including
> a table of contents for easier navigation... As before, feedback,
> improvement requests and criticism is welcome:
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/isometrics
>

Is this online-moniker for real ?

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----
Sent:Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:11 AM
Subject:[bolger] Re: Bolger index of designs

 

Just found this listing - how fabulous! Thanks, Bruce!

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, BruceHallman <hallman@...> wrote:
>
> For those who haven't looked of late, I have been proof reading and
> indexing my list of Bolger designs and isometric renderings, now including
> a table of contents for easier navigation... As before, feedback,
> improvement requests and criticism is welcome:
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/isometrics
>

Hi Bruce:
I had Shearwater #12 built by Edey and Duff, completed in Sept 1987. There may have been one or two more at most. 3400 lbs may be the load displacement but she weighed no more than 2300 lbs dry, including 600 lbs of inside lead ballast.
Mike

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bhilpholger" <dwknoedler@...> wrote:
>
> Just found this listing - how fabulous! Thanks, Bruce!
>
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, BruceHallman <hallman@> wrote:
> >
> > For those who haven't looked of late, I have been proof reading and
> > indexing my list of Bolger designs and isometric renderings, now including
> > a table of contents for easier navigation... As before, feedback,
> > improvement requests and criticism is welcome:
> >
> >http://hallman.org/bolger/isometrics
> >
>
Just found this listing - how fabulous! Thanks, Bruce!



--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, BruceHallman <hallman@...> wrote:
>
> For those who haven't looked of late, I have been proof reading and
> indexing my list of Bolger designs and isometric renderings, now including
> a table of contents for easier navigation... As before, feedback,
> improvement requests and criticism is welcome:
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/isometrics
>
I continue to be amazed by this collection. I have an original edition of "The Folding Schooner", if you would want any scans to work on for more.
>http://hallman.org/bolger/isometrics

Bruce, we all owe you a heap of gratitude for the huge amount of work you've done. Thanks.

Here is my own contribution to the pile of little mysteries to unravel. It has to do with Cape Cod Catboat designs. On a couple of occasions, I've come across references to CCC boats attributed to PCB that I've never seen in any design list. I wonder if they are authentic PCB designs, or wrongly attributed.

As best I remember, the first was from a newspaper article, probably reprinted in the Catboat Bulletin. In the picture, the boat looked like a totally typical CCC that could have been built on the Cape a hundred years ago.

The second was in an advertisement for a Mattapoisett yacht broker. The boat was described as having been built on spec in the Canadian Maritimes, and to be of wood-epoxy construction. I asked the broker on the phone if it was a typical CCC model, and he said it might be "a bit of a hard chine." Whatever that means. [There have been several times that PCB designs have come on the market that I regret not having taken a close look at. I passed on them because I thought there was no great chance that I'd actually make an offer. But I really, really, really, should have gone after this one.] I think there was a little picture, and again, the boat looked like a conventional CCC.

PCB designed lots of catboats, but I don't know of any CCC-type designs of cruising side (~22 ft) without at least one unconventional feature like the leeboards of the Leeboard Cat, or the center cockpit of Grandpa's Pirate ship, or a cat-yawl rig.

If anyone has any insight, I'd be curious.

Peter
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Mark Albanese <marka97203@...> wrote:
>
>
> The TOC is very effective.
>
> You might be swamped by submissions of scans for missing items, but
> if you want them, how should they be formatted?

I don't mind being swamped, and would appreciate collaboration with
others interested in the study of the body of PCB/PB&F designs.

Any number of ways work. If the scans are of copyrighted material
they should be low resolution scans to be considered under 'fair use'.
My first preference is to have the image scans located on Flickr,
tagged with the keywords "bolgerboats" and "boatname". Or, elsewhere
at any other accessible URL located anywhere. Sadly the Yahoo!groups
Bolger group folders are not accessible this way.
I chanced on some PCB memorial day boat pics that I don't believe I'd seen linked to beforehttp://capeannimages.blogspot.com.au/2009/09/bolger-boats.html

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Mark Albanese <marka97203@...> wrote:
>
> The TOC is very effective.
>
> You might be swamped by submissions of scans for missing items, but
> if you want them, how should they be formatted?
The TOC is very effective.

You might be swamped by submissions of scans for missing items, but
if you want them, how should they be formatted?


On Aug 20, 2012, at 3:09 PM, BruceHallman wrote:

> For those who haven't looked of late, I have been proof reading and
> indexing my list of Bolger designs and isometric renderings, now
> including a table of contents for easier navigation... As before,
> feedback, improvement requests and criticism is welcome:
>
>
>
For those who haven't looked of late, I have been proof reading and indexing my list of Bolger designs and isometric renderings, now including a table of contents for easier navigation... As before, feedback, improvement requests and criticism is welcome:

http://hallman.org/bolger/isometrics