Re: [bolger] Re: Pouring Lead

On 09/09/2012 11:39 AM, Monies wrote:

> I use aluminum foil to back my lead, lining the entire hole with it to
> keep from burning the wood.
>
> You can buy lead on e-bay and they will ship it to you. If it fits in a
> shipping envelope for flat rate mailing, it is cheap to ship and they
> can get about 50# in a $10 box.
>
> I buy all my lead from scrap metal dealers and just go pick it up. You
> can get lead from tire weights and people who balance tires.
>
> Mike Monies-http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SailOklahoma/
> The Red Scamp, Bolger Cartopper Noble Plan
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com<mailto:bolger%40yahoogroups.com>, Jay
> Bazuzi <jay@...> wrote:
> >
> > When I rebuilt Bobcat's centerboard, I backed the hole with a scrap
> of the
> > same plywood I used to to make the centerboard.
> >
> > Remember not to pour over concrete, which can explode of molten lead
> spills
> > on it.
> >
> > I used the same lead that had been in the previous centerboard
> >
> > I made the hole slightly too small. The centerboard still has
> > negative buoyancy, but it's closer to 0, which means it's really easy to
> > lift 1-handed while tacking.
> >
> > My crucible was an old cast iron pan from the thrift store.
> >
> > You can even buy lead on Amazon:
> >http://www.amazon.com/Whole-Lead-Ingot-99-9-4-5lbs/dp/B001QV3JBO/
> >
> > -J
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:41 PM, andybrad2 <andybrad2@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any advice for what to back the cartopper centerboard
> > > with when pouring lead? In Instant Boats Payson suggests asbestos but I
> > > can't say I have any laying around.
> > > Also where do people get the lead to melt down? I was thinking bulk
> shot
> > > that people use to pack shotgun shells but that's more expensive then I
> > > thought it would be. Any other suggestions.
> > > Thanks
> > > andy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

I just let it burn the wood. It only burns about a sixteenth inch deep
and the burnt wood prevents rot, Then I glassed and epoxied the lead
into place. It's still there 4 years later. Doug

I use aluminum foil to back my lead, lining the entire hole with it to keep from burning the wood.

You can buy lead on e-bay and they will ship it to you. If it fits in a shipping envelope for flat rate mailing, it is cheap to ship and they can get about 50# in a $10 box.

I buy all my lead from scrap metal dealers and just go pick it up. You can get lead from tire weights and people who balance tires.

Mike Monies-http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SailOklahoma/
The Red Scamp, Bolger Cartopper Noble Plan

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Jay Bazuzi <jay@...> wrote:
>
> When I rebuilt Bobcat's centerboard, I backed the hole with a scrap of the
> same plywood I used to to make the centerboard.
>
> Remember not to pour over concrete, which can explode of molten lead spills
> on it.
>
> I used the same lead that had been in the previous centerboard
>
> I made the hole slightly too small. The centerboard still has
> negative buoyancy, but it's closer to 0, which means it's really easy to
> lift 1-handed while tacking.
>
> My crucible was an old cast iron pan from the thrift store.
>
> You can even buy lead on Amazon:
>http://www.amazon.com/Whole-Lead-Ingot-99-9-4-5lbs/dp/B001QV3JBO/
>
> -J
>
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:41 PM, andybrad2 <andybrad2@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have any advice for what to back the cartopper centerboard
> > with when pouring lead? In Instant Boats Payson suggests asbestos but I
> > can't say I have any laying around.
> > Also where do people get the lead to melt down? I was thinking bulk shot
> > that people use to pack shotgun shells but that's more expensive then I
> > thought it would be. Any other suggestions.
> > Thanks
> > andy
> >
> >
> >
>

When I rebuilt Bobcat's centerboard, I backed the hole with a scrap of the same plywood I used to to make the centerboard.

Heck, I saw it on TV as well. Must be true.
Oh dear, Bruce, now you've done it... They'll blame you for the fisphyscical
collapse of the USPS...
Does the Postal Service have heavy-lift Low-Boys to deliver ?

----- Original Message -----
From: "BruceHallman" <hallman@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Bolger] Pouring Lead


On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Adirondack Goodboat
<goodboat@...> wrote:

> Andy, I had success getting a lead seller to cast up blocks of lead for me
> in the right thickness for Micro’s keel, in sized close to the max the
> Post
> Office would send. It’s a crazily good deal, shipping it that way. I think
> my units were about 45 pounds each.

If I am not mistaken, there is no weight limit on those flat rate
Priority Mail boxes. :) If it fits in the box, the flat rate
applies.


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On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Adirondack Goodboat
<goodboat@...> wrote:

> Andy, I had success getting a lead seller to cast up blocks of lead for me
> in the right thickness for Micro’s keel, in sized close to the max the Post
> Office would send. It’s a crazily good deal, shipping it that way. I think
> my units were about 45 pounds each.

If I am not mistaken, there is no weight limit on those flat rate
Priority Mail boxes. :) If it fits in the box, the flat rate
applies.

On 09/07/2012 04:53 AM, Mark Albanese wrote:

> I found 5# coils at the fisherman's supply store, bright and shiny.
> Cheap enough in small amounts. A flat piece of steel clamped to the work
> makes a good backing.
>
> Mark
>
> On Sep 6, 2012, at 10:41 PM, andybrad2 wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any advice for what to back the cartopper centerboard
>> with when pouring lead? In Instant Boats Payson suggests asbestos but
>> I can't say I have any laying around.
>> Also where do people get the lead to melt down? I was thinking bulk
>> shot that people use to pack shotgun shells but that's more expensive
>> then I thought it would be. Any other suggestions.
>> Thanks
>> andy
>>
>
>

Go to any shop that balances car wheels, They will most likely give
you wheel wights. When you melt them the steel tabs will float to the
top and you skin them off. I had an old charcoal grill so i used it. I
don't think I spilled any lea in it but I broke it up anyway thinging
someone might find it in the dump and cook on it. Doug

Tire weights or a scrap iron yard.  For a backer use mild steel plate.

Steve

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:41 AM, andybrad2<andybrad2@...>wrote:

Does anyone have any advice for what to back the cartopper centerboard with when pouring lead? In Instant Boats Payson suggests asbestos but I can't say I have any laying around.
Also where do people get the lead to melt down? I was thinking bulk shot that people use to pack shotgun shells but that's more expensive then I thought it would be. Any other suggestions.
Thanks
andy

I found 5# coils at the fisherman's supply store, bright and shiny. Cheap enough in small amounts. A flat piece of steel clamped to the work makes a good backing.

Does anyone have any advice for what to back the cartopper centerboard with when pouring lead? In Instant Boats Payson suggests asbestos but I can't say I have any laying around.
Also where do people get the lead to melt down? I was thinking bulk shot that people use to pack shotgun shells but that's more expensive then I thought it would be. Any other suggestions.
Thanks
andy