Re: [bolger] Re: Locust
suHere in the Shenandoah mountings
honey locust is used for fence posts and the lowest wood in barns
becuse it is very slow to rot. Compared to black locust you are
right. Any farmer will use black locust over honey locust but they
use either in most cases. Compared to teak it is very rot
resistant. Of course as has been brought up there is osage orange
that is also rot resistant. For boats it may be more important
that the wood is worm resistant as almost no wood rots under water
anyway. A boat built from either sugar or black locust will last
through several generations of one family. The black locust is
really hard to use so I think less desirable as boat lumber. The
wood in a boat is not particularity rot prone the bottom of a
fence post is. Doug
12/27/2012 08:35 AM, Crandall, Chris S. wrote:
12/27/2012 08:35 AM, Crandall, Chris S. wrote:
Honey locust (gleditsia triacanthos) and Black locust (robinia pseudoacacia, family Fabaceae) hare a common name, but are not otherwise related. They both have good qualities, but not the same qualities. Honey locust is not particularly rot resistant.
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Honey locust (gleditsia triacanthos) and Black locust (robinia pseudoacacia, family Fabaceae) hare a common name, but are not otherwise related. They both have good qualities, but not the same qualities. Honey locust is not particularly rot resistant.
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Locust
By
Douglas G Pollard Sr.
I have been trying to get some one to take an interest in this as a
worth while project.
For about a year I’ve been reading what I can find on locust trees for
building boats and stumbled upon even more.
Here is what I have found: They will grow in extreme heat, Locust is
prolific and spreads quickly. When the plants are young the are good
cattle grazing food and goats and sheep will eat them. In less than 10
years Honey locust and Black locust can be harvest as boat building
lumber. The wood does not rot and so is a good house lumber and for pole
sheds, as well as for boats. It needs no paint and will last 100 years
in the ground. The long strings of bean pods on the sugar locust can be
eaten. The trees produce sugar under the bark as well as in the beans. A
young lady on line makes fish hooks from the thorns. She said the
Indians used them.
I have been thinking about Haiti. They have no trees left because they
have cut them all down burning them to make charcoal for cooking. With a
good planting of locust which burns hot enough as is, there would be no
need to burn whole forests to make charcoal. At one time nails were even
made from black locust. After the trees are planted cattle can eat them
for about two years when they begin to grow thorns. Being well protected
by there thorns they quickly grow to a size in less than ten years that
is suitable for building. Since sea food is a large part of their diet,
long lasting Locust fishing boats that need no maintenance would provide
diets rich in protein. The only down side I see is that black locust
beans are poison so they would need to be taught to recognize the
difference. A couple of the videos on line put on there by a botanist
familiar with locust say they will grow in Hot climates in poor soil. I
also read they make good soil. They should thrive in Haiti where there
is no competition from other species. If they get too prolific it should
not be a problem to harvest them back to a reasonable population. So
anyone who may know someone in a position to look into this I would
apperciate if they would forward it
Doug
--
Doug Pollard,
Sailor, Machinst, writer,artist
Visit me at:
http://sailboatsfairandfine.blogspot.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DObsRslyJJo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F5DiZASKPs
By
Douglas G Pollard Sr.
I have been trying to get some one to take an interest in this as a
worth while project.
For about a year I’ve been reading what I can find on locust trees for
building boats and stumbled upon even more.
Here is what I have found: They will grow in extreme heat, Locust is
prolific and spreads quickly. When the plants are young the are good
cattle grazing food and goats and sheep will eat them. In less than 10
years Honey locust and Black locust can be harvest as boat building
lumber. The wood does not rot and so is a good house lumber and for pole
sheds, as well as for boats. It needs no paint and will last 100 years
in the ground. The long strings of bean pods on the sugar locust can be
eaten. The trees produce sugar under the bark as well as in the beans. A
young lady on line makes fish hooks from the thorns. She said the
Indians used them.
I have been thinking about Haiti. They have no trees left because they
have cut them all down burning them to make charcoal for cooking. With a
good planting of locust which burns hot enough as is, there would be no
need to burn whole forests to make charcoal. At one time nails were even
made from black locust. After the trees are planted cattle can eat them
for about two years when they begin to grow thorns. Being well protected
by there thorns they quickly grow to a size in less than ten years that
is suitable for building. Since sea food is a large part of their diet,
long lasting Locust fishing boats that need no maintenance would provide
diets rich in protein. The only down side I see is that black locust
beans are poison so they would need to be taught to recognize the
difference. A couple of the videos on line put on there by a botanist
familiar with locust say they will grow in Hot climates in poor soil. I
also read they make good soil. They should thrive in Haiti where there
is no competition from other species. If they get too prolific it should
not be a problem to harvest them back to a reasonable population. So
anyone who may know someone in a position to look into this I would
apperciate if they would forward it
Doug
--
Doug Pollard,
Sailor, Machinst, writer,artist
Visit me at:
http://sailboatsfairandfine.blogspot.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DObsRslyJJo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F5DiZASKPs