Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F
Susanne
I had emailed you off list about this and got no answer, I presume your spam filter did it in as my email routing makes most filters go on alert. I came north on 5 instead of 101. I am back in AK now, the next time I will be down there is this next fall and if nobody else takes it on I could take a look during the winter.
HJ
I had emailed you off list about this and got no answer, I presume your spam filter did it in as my email routing makes most filters go on alert. I came north on 5 instead of 101. I am back in AK now, the next time I will be down there is this next fall and if nobody else takes it on I could take a look during the winter.
HJ
On 5/13/2013 9:02 AM,philbolger@...wrote:Any news on anyone’s interest in pursuing this proposal ?
Susanne Altenburger, PB&FFrom:philbolger@...Sent:Friday, January 18, 2013 6:28 PMSubject:[bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&FHello All.
There is a fair bit, I think, I will need help with towards pulling together all sorts of odds and ends to consolidate the knowledge-base on matters 'Bolger'.
These 'Missions' will emerge in random occurrence as I run up against a challenge, someone (or -two) amongst you might have a (reasonably ?) handy way of resolving for me. This one seems like a fine excuse to 'invest' a long day in a road-trip - unless you are already there...Mission #1:
-Design #410 "Phouma"(Steel Oceanographic Research Motorsailing Vessel) 96'6/125' as stretched during construction x 16'x 3'6".
-Task: There are no decent photos of her afloat in the files. It would be great to get a bunch of high-res. ones from all angles.
-Location: Last seen in Eureka, CA, north of the City, via Route 255, in the marina on the south-side of Woodley Island. According to GOOGLE EARTH she is on the outside of the western-most 300+ feet long floating pier. GOOGLE EARTH offers a few shots of her from land and from water.
-Challenge:
1. While she seems to still be securely tucked away alongside a pier in the shadow of a sizable barrier-island along the Pacific, topography suggests that getting her full profile (unfortunately without spars beyond her two masts) would require a watercraft as a photo-platform or a very long lens w/ tripod located to her South-West on the mainland (City).
2. As so often in matters photographic, timing matters. She is oriented in a north-south position, with bow facing south.
3. This being the Pacific coastline with just a low barrier-island to the west or of course from afloat, the best lighting I would assume would be between early afternoon all the way up to sunset.
4. Weather might be a challenge, as nearby a test-facility pioneered instrument landing due to frequent and 'reliably' heavy fog.
5. No 'per diem' available. Just a fine excuse to hit Highway 101 to go and see #410...
- Her owner lives in Eureka. Last year I talked with him on friendly terms. Depending upon his perspective, he might collaborate in this 'Mission' perhaps with on-deck access or even perhaps below.
It could be that eventually she would be available for a new and unusual mission in light of her very unorthodox proportions and layout.
But first the visuals 'for the record' with photographer duly referenced in photo-credits later.
So there it is. Cue the theme...
"Should you accept this mission...yadayadah...will self-destruct in 10 seconds !"
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Any news on anyone’s interest in pursuing this proposal ?
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
From:philbolger@...
Sent:Friday, January 18, 2013 6:28 PM
Subject:[bolger] Mission #1 in support of
PB&F
Hello All.
There is a fair bit, I think, I will need help with towards pulling together all sorts of odds and ends to consolidate the knowledge-base on matters 'Bolger'.
These 'Missions' will emerge in random occurrence as I run up against a challenge, someone (or -two) amongst you might have a (reasonably ?) handy way of resolving for me. This one seems like a fine excuse to 'invest' a long day in a road-trip - unless you are already there...
There is a fair bit, I think, I will need help with towards pulling together all sorts of odds and ends to consolidate the knowledge-base on matters 'Bolger'.
These 'Missions' will emerge in random occurrence as I run up against a challenge, someone (or -two) amongst you might have a (reasonably ?) handy way of resolving for me. This one seems like a fine excuse to 'invest' a long day in a road-trip - unless you are already there...
Mission #1:
-Design #410 "Phouma"(Steel Oceanographic Research Motorsailing Vessel) 96'6/125' as stretched during construction x 16'x 3'6".
-Task: There are no decent photos of her afloat in the files. It would be great to get a bunch of high-res. ones from all angles.
-Location: Last seen in Eureka, CA, north of the City, via Route 255, in the marina on the south-side of Woodley Island. According to GOOGLE EARTH she is on the outside of the western-most 300+ feet long floating pier. GOOGLE EARTH offers a few shots of her from land and from water.
-Challenge:
1. While she seems to still be securely tucked away alongside a pier in the shadow of a sizable barrier-island along the Pacific, topography suggests that getting her full profile (unfortunately without spars beyond her two masts) would require a watercraft as a photo-platform or a very long lens w/ tripod located to her South-West on the mainland (City).
2. As so often in matters photographic, timing matters. She is oriented in a north-south position, with bow facing south.
3. This being the Pacific coastline with just a low barrier-island to the west or of course from afloat, the best lighting I would assume would be between early afternoon all the way up to sunset.
4. Weather might be a challenge, as nearby a test-facility pioneered instrument landing due to frequent and 'reliably' heavy fog.
5. No 'per diem' available. Just a fine excuse to hit Highway 101 to go and see #410...
- Her owner lives in Eureka. Last year I talked with him on friendly terms. Depending upon his perspective, he might collaborate in this 'Mission' perhaps with on-deck access or even perhaps below.
It could be that eventually she would be available for a new and unusual mission in light of her very unorthodox proportions and layout.
But first the visuals 'for the record' with photographer duly referenced in photo-credits later.
So there it is. Cue the theme...
"Should you accept this mission...yadayadah...will self-destruct in 10 seconds !"
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
-Design #410 "Phouma"(Steel Oceanographic Research Motorsailing Vessel) 96'6/125' as stretched during construction x 16'x 3'6".
-Task: There are no decent photos of her afloat in the files. It would be great to get a bunch of high-res. ones from all angles.
-Location: Last seen in Eureka, CA, north of the City, via Route 255, in the marina on the south-side of Woodley Island. According to GOOGLE EARTH she is on the outside of the western-most 300+ feet long floating pier. GOOGLE EARTH offers a few shots of her from land and from water.
-Challenge:
1. While she seems to still be securely tucked away alongside a pier in the shadow of a sizable barrier-island along the Pacific, topography suggests that getting her full profile (unfortunately without spars beyond her two masts) would require a watercraft as a photo-platform or a very long lens w/ tripod located to her South-West on the mainland (City).
2. As so often in matters photographic, timing matters. She is oriented in a north-south position, with bow facing south.
3. This being the Pacific coastline with just a low barrier-island to the west or of course from afloat, the best lighting I would assume would be between early afternoon all the way up to sunset.
4. Weather might be a challenge, as nearby a test-facility pioneered instrument landing due to frequent and 'reliably' heavy fog.
5. No 'per diem' available. Just a fine excuse to hit Highway 101 to go and see #410...
- Her owner lives in Eureka. Last year I talked with him on friendly terms. Depending upon his perspective, he might collaborate in this 'Mission' perhaps with on-deck access or even perhaps below.
It could be that eventually she would be available for a new and unusual mission in light of her very unorthodox proportions and layout.
But first the visuals 'for the record' with photographer duly referenced in photo-credits later.
So there it is. Cue the theme...
"Should you accept this mission...yadayadah...will self-destruct in 10 seconds !"
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
I am heading north for Bellingham and the ferry home on the 26 or 7th of April, I
could make a pass by then.
HJ
I wish the reality of my life included the flexibility of this 10 hour
could make a pass by then.
HJ
I wish the reality of my life included the flexibility of this 10 hour
> round trip, but so far, it does not. Maybe someone else?
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:05 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Has anyone had a chance to visit PHOUMA in Eureka, CA in support of
>> Mission #1 ?
>>
>> Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
>>
>>
>>
>
I wish the reality of my life included the flexibility of this 10 hour round trip, but so far, it does not. Maybe someone else?
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:05 AM,<philbolger@...>wrote:Has anyone had a chance to visit PHOUMA in Eureka, CA in support of Mission #1 ?
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Has anyone had a chance to visit PHOUMA in Eureka, CA in support of Mission
#1 ?
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
From:philbolger@...
Sent:Friday, January 25, 2013 10:21 PM
Subject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of
PB&F
Alright, the game's on. No cruelties intended
!
Nope. Not that shape.
Actually think 'Crystal', flat or slight deadrise amidships to finish with triangular (long along keel/short along chine) ends and then wrapping upwards...
"Come on Susanne... ! Jeez."
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Nope. Not that shape.
Actually think 'Crystal', flat or slight deadrise amidships to finish with triangular (long along keel/short along chine) ends and then wrapping upwards...
"Come on Susanne... ! Jeez."
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----From:BruceHallmanSent:Friday, January 25, 2013 6:06 PMSubject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F [1 Attachment]
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:56 AM,<philbolger@...>wrote:
This could be a parlor game, guessing what Phuma looks like below the water lines. Here is my guess.
I'll quote Phil on this and share her lines in
MAIB. Her shape is one of those exercises that make his work to
interesting. Instead of going 'standard-issue' whatever, he figures
another approach which clearly worked and was executed without dramatics and
without any ship-yard to support the construction...
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Alright, the game's on. No cruelties intended
!
Nope. Not that shape.
Actually think 'Crystal', flat or slight deadrise amidships to finish with triangular (long along keel/short along chine) ends and then wrapping upwards...
"Come on Susanne... ! Jeez."
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Nope. Not that shape.
Actually think 'Crystal', flat or slight deadrise amidships to finish with triangular (long along keel/short along chine) ends and then wrapping upwards...
"Come on Susanne... ! Jeez."
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----From:BruceHallmanSent:Friday, January 25, 2013 6:06 PMSubject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F [1 Attachment]On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:56 AM,<philbolger@...>wrote:
This could be a parlor game, guessing what Phuma looks like below the water lines. Here is my guess.I'll quote Phil on this and share her lines in MAIB. Her shape is one of those exercises that make his work to interesting. Instead of going 'standard-issue' whatever, he figures another approach which clearly worked and was executed without dramatics and without any ship-yard to support the construction...
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:56 AM,<philbolger@...>wrote:I'll quote Phil on this and share her lines in MAIB. Her shape is one of those exercises that make his work to interesting. Instead of going 'standard-issue' whatever, he figures another approach which clearly worked and was executed without dramatics and without any ship-yard to support the construction...
Susanne Altenburger, PB&FThis could be a parlor game, guessing what Phuma looks like below the water lines. Here is my guess.
Here seemed a good place to add some.
On Jan 21, 2013, at 4:38 PM, <philbolger@...> wrote:No 'Champlain' (#636) material in the Yahoo vault ?
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F-Bolger rules!!
I'll quote Phil on this and share her lines in
MAIB. Her shape is one of those exercises that make his work to
interesting. Instead of going 'standard-issue' whatever, he figures
another approach which clearly worked and was executed without dramatics and
without any ship-yard to support the construction...
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----
From:Mason SmithSent:Thursday, January 24, 2013 8:55 AMSubject:RE: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&FThat bow intrigued me in the photos, Susanne. A way of making a desirable shape more manageable in steel? I look forward to your piece in MAIB on it.
From:bolger@yahoogroups.com[mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Ofphilbolger@...
Sent:Tuesday, January 22, 2013 5:13 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F
I would assume that our Chinese friends had/have (?) much larger leeboarders... But, perhaps not.
Slight arc bottom with hard-chine but a regular vee-bow with actually an intriguing inverted Vee intersection where 'lower' bow meets upper bow flare, visible from her forward quarters.
I'll do a MAIB piece, with Phil's perspective on this design.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F----- Original Message -----
From:BruceHallman
Sent:Tuesday, January 22, 2013 5:03 PM
Subject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F
This has to be the largest leeboarder in the world, or nearly so.
Is the hull flat bottomed with linear keel, and a rounded chine like with Resolution?
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM, <philbolger@...> wrote:
She is designed for them, depends on them for lateral plane, but they have yet to be built and hung.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&FSent:Tuesday, January 22, 2013 4:30 PM
Subject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F
Asking a far out question: Does Phouma have leeboards?
That bow intrigued me in the photos, Susanne. A way of making a desirable shape more manageable in steel? I look forward to your piece in MAIB on it.
From:bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Ofphilbolger@...
Sent:Tuesday, January 22, 2013 5:13 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F
I would assume that our Chinese friends had/have (?) much larger leeboarders... But, perhaps not.
Slight arc bottom with hard-chine but a regular vee-bow with actually an intriguing inverted Vee intersection where 'lower' bow meets upper bow flare, visible from her forward quarters.
I'll do a MAIB piece, with Phil's perspective on this design.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----
From:BruceHallman
Sent:Tuesday, January 22, 2013 5:03 PM
Subject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F
This has to be the largest leeboarder in the world, or nearly so.
Is the hull flat bottomed with linear keel, and a rounded chine like with Resolution?
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM, <philbolger@...> wrote:
She is designed for them, depends on them for lateral plane, but they have yet to be built and hung.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&FSent:Tuesday, January 22, 2013 4:30 PM
Subject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F
Asking a far out question: Does Phouma have leeboards?
I think he might be a statue up on the
shore?? Doug
On 01/23/2013 07:38 PM, Andrew wrote:
That sailor in the background looks like he is 20' tall!
http://hallman.org/bolger/410h.jpg
Andrew
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, BruceHallman wrote:
>
> Here are a couple more Flickr photos found of Phouma, one is a nice side
> view taken from another boat
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/410h.jpg
>http://hallman.org/bolger/410h.jpg
>
>
> Another factoid, the boat berthed just next to Phouma is the 'Coral Sea'
> which is owned and operated by the Humbolt State University Oceanography
> department.
>
--
Doug Pollard,
Sailor, Machinst, writer,artist
Visit me at:http://sailboatsfairandfine.blogspot.com/That sailor in the background looks like he is 20' tall!
http://hallman.org/bolger/410h.jpg
Andrew
http://hallman.org/bolger/410h.jpg
Andrew
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, BruceHallman wrote:
>
> Here are a couple more Flickr photos found of Phouma, one is a nice side
> view taken from another boat
>
>http://hallman.org/bolger/410h.jpg
>http://hallman.org/bolger/410h.jpg
>
>
> Another factoid, the boat berthed just next to Phouma is the 'Coral Sea'
> which is owned and operated by the Humbolt State University Oceanography
> department.
>
It looks like Phouma (Phuma) is a USCG registered vessel, details here:
Built by Dr. J. Gast a professor at Humbolt State University, between 1984 and 1991 I think.
I will put it on my want to do while I am down here list. I have always wanted to
visit Humboldt Bay. I am trucking the boat to Puget Sound, then sailing it home so
I won't get to see it by sea.
I might leave a day early here and stop by on the way north.
HJ
Hi Harry,
visit Humboldt Bay. I am trucking the boat to Puget Sound, then sailing it home so
I won't get to see it by sea.
I might leave a day early here and stop by on the way north.
HJ
Hi Harry,
>
> You always are welcome to borrow any of my boats. They all are more than a
> bit neglected, but the Cartoon 5, Tortoise, and Kotick are stored on the
> roof of my garage in SF, and the Micro (sorely neglected in the marina by
> the ballpark) and the Topaz Spyder is in a boatyard in Dogpatch. My spare
> time comes in very small chunks now-a-days with first priority being my
> health and marriage. Followed by my day job, and this endless remodel of a
> money-pit 125 year old house.
>
> Bruce
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:49 PM, <welshman@...> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> I am down in Napa Valley Marina for the winter. Here's why
>>
>>http://www.hjboats.com/columbia38/index.html
>>
>> Maybe I could borrow one of your boats, I have my long bed chevy with me.
>> It has a
>> rack and a camper shell that I am using for tool hauling.
>>
>> 500 mile round trip from here. It would be a bit before I could get to
>> it---if at all.
>>
>> HJ
>>
>>
>
If having a isometric model would help you in any way, I would be more than happy to make one to share. No pressure either way. (I would just need to see the linesplan.)
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 2:12 PM,<philbolger@...>wrote:I would assume that our Chinese friends had/have (?) much larger leeboarders... But, perhaps not.
Slight arc bottom with hard-chine but a regular vee-bow with actually an intriguing inverted Vee intersection where 'lower' bow meets upper bow flare, visible from her forward quarters.
I'll do a MAIB piece, with Phil's perspective on this design.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
I would assume that our Chinese friends had/have
(?) much larger leeboarders... But, perhaps not.
Slight arc bottom with hard-chine but a regular vee-bow with actually an intriguing inverted Vee intersection where 'lower' bow meets upper bow flare, visible from her forward quarters.
I'll do a MAIB piece, with Phil's perspective on this design.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Slight arc bottom with hard-chine but a regular vee-bow with actually an intriguing inverted Vee intersection where 'lower' bow meets upper bow flare, visible from her forward quarters.
I'll do a MAIB piece, with Phil's perspective on this design.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----From:BruceHallmanSent:Tuesday, January 22, 2013 5:03 PMSubject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&FThis has to be the largest leeboarder in the world, or nearly so.
Is the hull flat bottomed with linear keel, and a rounded chine like with Resolution?She is designed for them, depends on them for lateral plane, but they have yet to be built and hung.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&FSent:Tuesday, January 22, 2013 4:30 PMSubject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&FAsking a far out question: Does Phouma have leeboards?
This has to be the largest leeboarder in the world, or nearly so.
Is the hull flat bottomed with linear keel, and a rounded chine like with Resolution?
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM,<philbolger@...>wrote:She is designed for them, depends on them for lateral plane, but they have yet to be built and hung.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&FSent:Tuesday, January 22, 2013 4:30 PMSubject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&FAsking a far out question: Does Phouma have leeboards?
She is designed for them, depends on them for
lateral plane, but they have yet to be built and hung.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----From:BruceHallmanSent:Tuesday, January 22, 2013 4:30 PMSubject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&FAsking a far out question: Does Phouma have leeboards?
Asking a far out question: Does Phouma have leeboards?
http://hallman.org/bolger/410i.jpg
From:BruceHallman <hallman@...>
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent:Tuesday, January 22, 2013 10:56 AM
Subject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F
Oops, typo, here is the link to the side view photo of Phouma
http://hallman.org/bolger/410h.jpg
Here are a couple more Flickr photos found of Phouma, one is a nice side view taken from another boat
Another factoid, the boat berthed just next to Phouma is the 'Coral Sea' which is owned and operated by the Humbolt State University Oceanography department.
Hi Harry,
You always are welcome to borrow any of my boats. They all are more than a bit neglected, but the Cartoon 5, Tortoise, and Kotick are stored on the roof of my garage in SF, and the Micro (sorely neglected in the marina by the ballpark) and the Topaz Spyder is in a boatyard in Dogpatch. My spare time comes in very small chunks now-a-days with first priority being my health and marriage. Followed by my day job, and this endless remodel of a money-pit 125 year old house.
Bruce
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:49 PM,<welshman@...>wrote:Bruce
I am down in Napa Valley Marina for the winter. Here's why
http://www.hjboats.com/columbia38/index.html
Maybe I could borrow one of your boats, I have my long bed chevy with me. It has a
rack and a camper shell that I am using for tool hauling.
500 mile round trip from here. It would be a bit before I could get to it---if at all.
HJ
Bruce
I am down in Napa Valley Marina for the winter. Here's why
http://www.hjboats.com/columbia38/index.html
Maybe I could borrow one of your boats, I have my long bed chevy with me. It has a
rack and a camper shell that I am using for tool hauling.
500 mile round trip from here. It would be a bit before I could get to it---if at all.
HJ
I would love to find a slot in my tight schedule to do this! Judging from
I am down in Napa Valley Marina for the winter. Here's why
http://www.hjboats.com/columbia38/index.html
Maybe I could borrow one of your boats, I have my long bed chevy with me. It has a
rack and a camper shell that I am using for tool hauling.
500 mile round trip from here. It would be a bit before I could get to it---if at all.
HJ
I would love to find a slot in my tight schedule to do this! Judging from
> the photos online all being from a public beach opposite side of the
> channel, the best thing would be to bring a cartop rowboat to get good
> photo angles.
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:20 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> **
>> Thank you Bruce.
>> These images do help some.
>> But I'd state there continues to be a need to see Mission #1 engaged in by
>> someone closer to Eureka, CA than I can be. From San Francisco for
>> instance, I believe it would be a good day round-trip on the Redwoods
>> Highway (Route 101)...
>>
>> Thanks for this effort to find images for her.
>>
>> Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* BruceHallman <hallman@...>
>> *To:*bolger@yahoogroups.com
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 21, 2013 1:00 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F
>>
>>
>>
>> There are a number of photo's of Phouma on the web. (A new design to me!)
>> I grabbed them and put them here:
>>
>>http://hallman.org/bolger/410.jpg
>>http://hallman.org/bolger/410a.jpg
>>http://hallman.org/bolger/410b.jpg
>>http://hallman.org/bolger/410c.jpg
>>http://hallman.org/bolger/410d.jpg
>>http://hallman.org/bolger/410e.jpg
>>http://hallman.org/bolger/410f.jpg
>>http://hallman.org/bolger/410g.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:28 PM, <philbolger@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Woodley Island
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
No 'Champlain' (#636) material in the Yahoo vault
?
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----From:Stephen KandulSent:Monday, January 21, 2013 7:22 PMSubject:[bolger] Re: Mission #1 in support of PB&F
>>>>Bruce Hallman's remark that this design was a new one for him sort of stopped me cold.
As they say "I'll be darned..." - I'd rather someone did my socks...- but I could have sworn that Phil/we had run Design #410 in the decades-long MAIB Bolger-On-Design narrative. But I seem to be mistaken. Has anyone else another set of lenses through which to scan that stack of articles ?
<<<<I took a look at the pictures Bruce posted links to of the vessel. Near as I can tell it was not featured in MAIB in past ten or so years. Seems like you have found a follow-on topic to write up once that Navy landing craft/patrol boat splashes
Now, about those study plans for a boat with Elco happy smack characteristics, and Bolger innovation and functionality ?? Awaiting your reply.
Regards, SSK
>>>>Bruce Hallman's remark that this design was a new one for him sort of stopped me cold.
As they say "I'll be darned..." - I'd rather someone did my socks...- but I could have sworn that Phil/we had run Design #410 in the decades-long MAIB Bolger-On-Design narrative. But I seem to be mistaken. Has anyone else another set of lenses through which to scan that stack of articles ?
<<<<
I took a look at the pictures Bruce posted links to of the vessel. Near as I can tell it was not featured in MAIB in past ten or so years. Seems like you have found a follow-on topic to write up once that Navy landing craft/patrol boat splashes…
Now, about those study plans for a boat with Elco “happy smack” characteristics, and Bolger innovation and functionality…?? Awaiting your reply.
Regards, SSK
Bruce Hallman's remark that this design was a new
one for him sort of stopped me cold.
As they say "I'll be darned..." - I'd rather someone did my socks...- but I could have sworn that Phil/we had run Design #410 in the decades-long MAIB Bolger-On-Design narrative. But I seem to be mistaken. Has anyone else another set of lenses through which to scan that stack of articles ?
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
As they say "I'll be darned..." - I'd rather someone did my socks...- but I could have sworn that Phil/we had run Design #410 in the decades-long MAIB Bolger-On-Design narrative. But I seem to be mistaken. Has anyone else another set of lenses through which to scan that stack of articles ?
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----From:philbolger@...Sent:Monday, January 21, 2013 1:35 PMSubject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&FBruce, cue the theme from MI...
Gotta a burn a disc for endless loop until you throw it out the window at mile marker 13 or so...
I guess making the weather match your schedule would be one challenge. I'd check with the marina office to make sure she'll be there...
Keep us posted.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F----- Original Message -----From:BruceHallmanSent:Monday, January 21, 2013 1:25 PMSubject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&FI would love to find a slot in my tight schedule to do this! Judging from the photos online all being from a public beach opposite side of the channel, the best thing would be to bring a cartop rowboat to get good photo angles.
Thank you Bruce.These images do help some.
But I'd state there continues to be a need to see Mission #1 engaged in by someone closer to Eureka, CA than I can be. From San Francisco for instance, I believe it would be a good day round-trip on the Redwoods Highway (Route 101)...
Thanks for this effort to find images for her.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----From:BruceHallmanSent:Monday, January 21, 2013 1:00 PMSubject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&FThere are a number of photo's of Phouma on the web. (A new design to me!) I grabbed them and put them here:
Bruce, cue the theme from MI...
Gotta a burn a disc for endless loop until you throw it out the window at mile marker 13 or so...
I guess making the weather match your schedule would be one challenge. I'd check with the marina office to make sure she'll be there...
Keep us posted.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Gotta a burn a disc for endless loop until you throw it out the window at mile marker 13 or so...
I guess making the weather match your schedule would be one challenge. I'd check with the marina office to make sure she'll be there...
Keep us posted.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----From:BruceHallmanSent:Monday, January 21, 2013 1:25 PMSubject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&FI would love to find a slot in my tight schedule to do this! Judging from the photos online all being from a public beach opposite side of the channel, the best thing would be to bring a cartop rowboat to get good photo angles.
Thank you Bruce.These images do help some.
But I'd state there continues to be a need to see Mission #1 engaged in by someone closer to Eureka, CA than I can be. From San Francisco for instance, I believe it would be a good day round-trip on the Redwoods Highway (Route 101)...
Thanks for this effort to find images for her.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----From:BruceHallmanSent:Monday, January 21, 2013 1:00 PMSubject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&FThere are a number of photo's of Phouma on the web. (A new design to me!) I grabbed them and put them here:
I would love to find a slot in my tight schedule to do this! Judging from the photos online all being from a public beach opposite side of the channel, the best thing would be to bring a cartop rowboat to get good photo angles.
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:20 AM,<philbolger@...>wrote:Thank you Bruce.These images do help some.
But I'd state there continues to be a need to see Mission #1 engaged in by someone closer to Eureka, CA than I can be. From San Francisco for instance, I believe it would be a good day round-trip on the Redwoods Highway (Route 101)...
Thanks for this effort to find images for her.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F----- Original Message -----From:BruceHallmanSent:Monday, January 21, 2013 1:00 PMSubject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&FThere are a number of photo's of Phouma on the web. (A new design to me!) I grabbed them and put them here:
Thank you Bruce.
These images do help
some.
But I'd state there continues to be a need to see Mission #1 engaged in by someone closer to Eureka, CA than I can be. From San Francisco for instance, I believe it would be a good day round-trip on the Redwoods Highway (Route 101)...
Thanks for this effort to find images for her.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
But I'd state there continues to be a need to see Mission #1 engaged in by someone closer to Eureka, CA than I can be. From San Francisco for instance, I believe it would be a good day round-trip on the Redwoods Highway (Route 101)...
Thanks for this effort to find images for her.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
----- Original Message -----From:BruceHallmanSent:Monday, January 21, 2013 1:00 PMSubject:Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&FThere are a number of photo's of Phouma on the web. (A new design to me!) I grabbed them and put them here:
There are a number of photo's of Phouma on the web. (A new design to me!) I grabbed them and put them here:
It's a long way from Kenya to Washington, otherwise I'd be glad to help. I am sure there are some members of the group in the Pacific Northwest. Any takers?
Cheers,
Matthew
Cheers,
Matthew
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> Hello All.
> There is a fair bit, I think, I will need help with towards pulling together all sorts of odds and ends to consolidate the knowledge-base on matters 'Bolger'.
>
> These 'Missions' will emerge in random occurrence as I run up against a challenge, someone (or -two) amongst you might have a (reasonably ?) handy way of resolving for me. This one seems like a fine excuse to 'invest' a long day in a road-trip - unless you are already there...
>
> Mission #1:
> - Design #410 "Phouma" (Steel Oceanographic Research Motorsailing Vessel) 96'6/125' as stretched during construction x 16'x 3'6".
>
> - Task: There are no decent photos of her afloat in the files. It would be great to get a bunch of high-res. ones from all angles.
>
> - Location: Last seen in Eureka, CA, north of the City, via Route 255, in the marina on the south-side of Woodley Island. According to GOOGLE EARTH she is on the outside of the western-most 300+ feet long floating pier. GOOGLE EARTH offers a few shots of her from land and from water.
>
> - Challenge:
> 1. While she seems to still be securely tucked away alongside a pier in the shadow of a sizable barrier-island along the Pacific, topography suggests that getting her full profile (unfortunately without spars beyond her two masts) would require a watercraft as a photo-platform or a very long lens w/ tripod located to her South-West on the mainland (City).
> 2. As so often in matters photographic, timing matters. She is oriented in a north-south position, with bow facing south.
> 3. This being the Pacific coastline with just a low barrier-island to the west or of course from afloat, the best lighting I would assume would be between early afternoon all the way up to sunset.
> 4. Weather might be a challenge, as nearby a test-facility pioneered instrument landing due to frequent and 'reliably' heavy fog.
> 5. No 'per diem' available. Just a fine excuse to hit Highway 101 to go and see #410...
>
> - Her owner lives in Eureka. Last year I talked with him on friendly terms. Depending upon his perspective, he might collaborate in this 'Mission' perhaps with on-deck access or even perhaps below.
> It could be that eventually she would be available for a new and unusual mission in light of her very unorthodox proportions and layout.
> But first the visuals 'for the record' with photographer duly referenced in photo-credits later.
>
>
> So there it is. Cue the theme...
> "Should you accept this mission...yadayadah...will self-destruct in 10 seconds !"
>
> Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
>
Hello All.
There is a fair bit, I think, I will need help with towards pulling together all sorts of odds and ends to consolidate the knowledge-base on matters 'Bolger'.
These 'Missions' will emerge in random occurrence as I run up against a challenge, someone (or -two) amongst you might have a (reasonably ?) handy way of resolving for me. This one seems like a fine excuse to 'invest' a long day in a road-trip - unless you are already there...
There is a fair bit, I think, I will need help with towards pulling together all sorts of odds and ends to consolidate the knowledge-base on matters 'Bolger'.
These 'Missions' will emerge in random occurrence as I run up against a challenge, someone (or -two) amongst you might have a (reasonably ?) handy way of resolving for me. This one seems like a fine excuse to 'invest' a long day in a road-trip - unless you are already there...
Mission #1:
-Design #410 "Phouma"(Steel Oceanographic Research Motorsailing Vessel) 96'6/125' as stretched during construction x 16'x 3'6".
-Task: There are no decent photos of her afloat in the files. It would be great to get a bunch of high-res. ones from all angles.
-Location: Last seen in Eureka, CA, north of the City, via Route 255, in the marina on the south-side of Woodley Island. According to GOOGLE EARTH she is on the outside of the western-most 300+ feet long floating pier. GOOGLE EARTH offers a few shots of her from land and from water.
-Challenge:
1. While she seems to still be securely tucked away alongside a pier in the shadow of a sizable barrier-island along the Pacific, topography suggests that getting her full profile (unfortunately without spars beyond her two masts) would require a watercraft as a photo-platform or a very long lens w/ tripod located to her South-West on the mainland (City).
2. As so often in matters photographic, timing matters. She is oriented in a north-south position, with bow facing south.
3. This being the Pacific coastline with just a low barrier-island to the west or of course from afloat, the best lighting I would assume would be between early afternoon all the way up to sunset.
4. Weather might be a challenge, as nearby a test-facility pioneered instrument landing due to frequent and 'reliably' heavy fog.
5. No 'per diem' available. Just a fine excuse to hit Highway 101 to go and see #410...
- Her owner lives in Eureka. Last year I talked with him on friendly terms. Depending upon his perspective, he might collaborate in this 'Mission' perhaps with on-deck access or even perhaps below.
It could be that eventually she would be available for a new and unusual mission in light of her very unorthodox proportions and layout.
But first the visuals 'for the record' with photographer duly referenced in photo-credits later.
So there it is. Cue the theme...
"Should you accept this mission...yadayadah...will self-destruct in 10 seconds !"
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
-Design #410 "Phouma"(Steel Oceanographic Research Motorsailing Vessel) 96'6/125' as stretched during construction x 16'x 3'6".
-Task: There are no decent photos of her afloat in the files. It would be great to get a bunch of high-res. ones from all angles.
-Location: Last seen in Eureka, CA, north of the City, via Route 255, in the marina on the south-side of Woodley Island. According to GOOGLE EARTH she is on the outside of the western-most 300+ feet long floating pier. GOOGLE EARTH offers a few shots of her from land and from water.
-Challenge:
1. While she seems to still be securely tucked away alongside a pier in the shadow of a sizable barrier-island along the Pacific, topography suggests that getting her full profile (unfortunately without spars beyond her two masts) would require a watercraft as a photo-platform or a very long lens w/ tripod located to her South-West on the mainland (City).
2. As so often in matters photographic, timing matters. She is oriented in a north-south position, with bow facing south.
3. This being the Pacific coastline with just a low barrier-island to the west or of course from afloat, the best lighting I would assume would be between early afternoon all the way up to sunset.
4. Weather might be a challenge, as nearby a test-facility pioneered instrument landing due to frequent and 'reliably' heavy fog.
5. No 'per diem' available. Just a fine excuse to hit Highway 101 to go and see #410...
- Her owner lives in Eureka. Last year I talked with him on friendly terms. Depending upon his perspective, he might collaborate in this 'Mission' perhaps with on-deck access or even perhaps below.
It could be that eventually she would be available for a new and unusual mission in light of her very unorthodox proportions and layout.
But first the visuals 'for the record' with photographer duly referenced in photo-credits later.
So there it is. Cue the theme...
"Should you accept this mission...yadayadah...will self-destruct in 10 seconds !"
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F