#501

Thanks for the estimate on the number of sheets of ply....Dave seigler made slac ktide from exterior grade ply.....I'm really looking to build #501 as a proof of concept sailing houseboat....any of you live in social? I would need Lot's a help
I think David's estimate is better than mine.  And we both agree that building a model would be an excellent idea to work through the detailing issues.

On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:08 PM, David<dir_cobb@...>wrote:

I take it this is the liveaboard scow schooner 35' x 11'8"

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/files/Liveaboard%20Scow%20Schooner/

I beg to differ with Bruce on this materials though.
I take it this is the liveaboard scow schooner 35' x 11'8"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/files/Liveaboard%20Scow%20Schooner/ 

I beg to differ with Bruce on this materials though. My first guess was that it would take about 120 sheets based on the 70-80 sheets required for loose moose 2 (Info from Bob Wise tallies closely with my calculation from plans and model). I agree that models are a great way to go. 

From the article and isometrics my guess is that the panels were designed to be planked from 36' lengths which is 4.5 lengthwise sheets or 9 crosswise sheets. 

My guess is:

Bottom panel      18 sheets (double 9)
Bilge panels         18 sheets (double 4.5 each side)
Side panels          9 sheets (single 4.5 each side lengthwise)
Deck                      13 sheets 
Bulkheads            12 sheets (3 each BH - overestimated)
Transoms.             3 sheets
Total.     73 sheets + 25% misc. interior = about 100 sheets. 

No idea what cost would be where you are. I think I would use 15mm ply instead of 12mm (1/2") if possible for the bottom and bilge panels. You would save 9 sheets if the bilge panels were not doubled. The reason I get less sheets than I estimated above is because the interior is less cut up than Loose Moose as well as the boat being 4' shorter. 

Just my thoughts. 

Best regards. 


David 

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> From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.BruceHallman hallman@... wrote:That is a big boat, 250-300 sheets of 1/2 plywood is my guess.  A fast, rough build probably could be estimated to take about 10 manhours per sheet.  So, 3,000 manhours is the fast estimate, and $50K would be the cheap end.  If you get into gold plating, or navel gazing those numbers could go up to infinity.  
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> Thanks a ton for all the 3-d drawings of #501! Question: roughly how much lumber, and what dimensions, will be needed, and what's the estimated total cost? Just ballpark numbers....
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what boat is 501?




From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

BruceHallman <hallman@...> wrote:
 

That is a big boat, 250-300 sheets of 1/2 plywood is my guess.  A fast, rough build probably could be estimated to take about 10 manhours per sheet.  So, 3,000 manhours is the fast estimate, and $50K would be the cheap end.  If you get into gold plating, or navel gazing those numbers could go up to infinity.  

To make your own estimate I strongly suggest building a 1 inch to the foot scale model using cardboard.  Then keep notes of all the pieces and steps.


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Darrell<dario2rnr@...>wrote:
 

Thanks a ton for all the 3-d drawings of #501! Question: roughly how much lumber, and what dimensions, will be needed, and what's the estimated total cost? Just ballpark numbers....

Thanks
Darrell Turner


That is a big boat, 250-300 sheets of 1/2 plywood is my guess.  A fast, rough build probably could be estimated to take about 10 manhours per sheet.  So, 3,000 manhours is the fast estimate, and $50K would be the cheap end.  If you get into gold plating, or navel gazing those numbers could go up to infinity.

To make your own estimate I strongly suggest building a 1 inch to the foot scale model using cardboard.  Then keep notes of all the pieces and steps.


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Darrell<dario2rnr@...>wrote:

Thanks a ton for all the 3-d drawings of #501! Question: roughly how much lumber, and what dimensions, will be needed, and what's the estimated total cost? Just ballpark numbers....

Thanks
Darrell Turner


Thanks a ton for all the 3-d drawings of #501! Question: roughly how much lumber, and what dimensions, will be needed, and what's the estimated total cost? Just ballpark numbers....


Thanks
Darrell Turner