Re: [bolger] Re: Modified Bolger Bobcat
Thanks for the pictures and additional history on my boat, Spark. She looks pretty much the same except that Howard put orange water line stripes on her. I replaced the plexiglass hatch cover with wood and like the looks, will be doing maintenance and probably changing the stripe color in the spring (not and orange fan). It's such a fun and stable boat, will keep her around until I can someday build a boat of my own or find something a few feet longer. Picture someone 6'5" squeezing into the cabin of a 12' boat.....
Dave
Thanks for the link. Interesting. Aint that Spark a sweet looking Bobcat microcruiser!
I suppose similar might be done with the high sided version of Catfish beachcruiser? One might worry less about a squall hitting in the middle of the night as Howard was in the Spark cabin. What was it Susanne wrote about Catfish, something about it being for those wanting capsize resistance with no lead-pouring involved in boat building?
http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?169048-Tweaking-the-Bolger-Bobcat-design
Look for post #10 and comments further down in the thread. I frankly
think it's a cool boat, but definitely meant for cruising alone. It's
a neat variant on the Bobcat design.
Michael Seitz
Missoula MT
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https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=jean%20alden%20boat
On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 06:55:45 -0700, c.ruzer wrote:
> All sizes | 43-JeanAlden | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/jkohnen/8365978985/sizes/l
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Here is a video link to that boat on a blustery day in SF Bay. Looks very capable!
carvel, with the seams then stuffed with epoxy goo and the hull sheathed
in fiberglass. Of course one could modify the design for cold-molded
construction...
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:32:22 -0700, John T wrote:
>
> I suspect that the picture is of Gardeners Tom Cat which is a
> slightly enlarged version of a Beetle Cat with a cuddy and bench seating.
> Gardner tells the story in his book The Making of Tom Cat and every few
> years, the Wooden Boat School builds a hull as an exercise in cold
> molding.
> ...
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John (jkohnen@...)
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the impulse to punish the man with a superior capacity for happiness. (H.
L. Mencken)
Bolger’s design for the twelve-foot Bob Cat, scaled it up to fourteen
feet, added a small cabin and copied the rig from a Crosby catboat
described in a monograph by Barry Thomas. I also modified the stem profile
to have the tumblehome that is characteristic of this traditional design."
It's a Good Boat, and I look forward to seeing her, and Mike, every
September. She was one of the few small boats that went out for the brisk
Sunday sail-by after the 2012 Wooden Boat festival:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jkohnen/8367956204/in/set-72157632488786260
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:32:22 -0700, John T wrote:
> There are a number of small Cape Cod Cats around. The Beetle Cat is the
> prototype, but with traditional plank on frame construction, it isn't
> suitable for dry sailing. Bolger drew up Tiny Cat as a plywood substitute
> for a Beetle. I suspect that the picture is of Gardeners Tom Cat which
> is a
> slightly enlarged version of a Beetle Cat with a cuddy and bench seating.
> Gardner tells the story in his book The Making of Tom Cat and every few
> years, the Wooden Boat School builds a hull as an exercise in cold
> molding.
> ...
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John (jkohnen@...)
The trouble with the school of experience is that the graduates are too
old to go to work. (Henry Ford)
prototype, but with traditional plank on frame construction, it isn't
suitable for dry sailing. Bolger drew up Tiny Cat as a plywood substitute
for a Beetle. I suspect that the picture is of Gardeners Tom Cat which is a
slightly enlarged version of a Beetle Cat with a cuddy and bench seating.
Gardner tells the story in his book The Making of Tom Cat and every few
years, the Wooden Boat School builds a hull as an exercise in cold molding.
IMHO, building any cat boat is a major project and larger versions are more
useful boats.
JohnT
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Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Modified Bolger Bobcat
Nice looking little boat! What's safer about a rudder without an end plate?
A little catboat inspired by the Bobcat shows up for the Wooden Boat
Festival in Port Townsend every year. Jean Alden was stretched a couple of
feet:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jkohnen/8366881117/in/set-72157632488786260
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:41:28 -0700, dave C wrote:
> ...
> The rudder does not have a plate and is one thing I will look to add. A
> web search should give me ideas. I guess a plate was never installed
> because the boat has always been sailed on big water. What's lost in
> steering is made up in safety.
> ...
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A little catboat inspired by the Bobcat shows up for the Wooden Boat
Festival in Port Townsend every year. Jean Alden was stretched a couple of
feet:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jkohnen/8366881117/in/set-72157632488786260
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:41:28 -0700, dave C wrote:
> ...
> The rudder does not have a plate and is one thing I will look to add. A
> web search should give me ideas. I guess a plate was never installed
> because the boat has always been sailed on big water. What's lost in
> steering is made up in safety.
> ...
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John (jkohnen@...)
A free society is a place where it's safe to be unpopular. (Adlai
Stevenson)
First and foremost I wish to make it clear that I did not build or commission this boat. My only part in all of this was shelling out some cash.
The boat was built in Washington, so it indeed may have been the Pt. Townsend Small Craft Skills Academy. After several years out there it was purchased by Howard Rice who is associated with Pt. Townsend and writes for the Small Craft Advisor. He brought it to Michigan and has been sailing it here. He sold it on eBay to me.
I'm also in Michigan (Adrian)..
Howard used it for cruising and slept on it. I am 6'4" and cannot completely stretch out inside. Luckily I am tall but not big so I could sleep inside. There is one bunk on one side and sitting room on the other. I really have no plans to cruise. In a couple of years when I retire I hope to build a boat so I guess Spark in my introduction to that world. We'll see if that ever happens, my woodworking skills are limited, at best.
The rudder does not have a plate and is one thing I will look to add. A web search should give me ideas. I guess a plate was never installed because the boat has always been sailed on big water. What's lost in steering is made up in safety.
So, I'll have some fun with the boat for a while and we'll see. Only owned one boat in my life (out of 20+) that I've kept for more than a couple of years.
Fair winds...
Dave
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
From: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:02:19 -0700
Subject: [bolger] Re: Modified Bolger Bobcat
I wouldn't guess there's much room to move around in there.
The advantage comes from additional self righting, the lockup, and the irresistible miniature cruiser looks.
Nicely done. The house looks perfectly proportioned
Mark
nice. is it big enough to sleep in?
---Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, <philbolger@...> wrote :Awfully cute, as Phil might remark.
- What are the ergonomics of the cuddy on this 12-footer ?
- Is the rudder deeper to make up for the missing endplate ?
Susanne Altenburger, PB&FSent:Wednesday, July 09, 2014 10:56 PMSubject:[bolger] Re: Modified Bolger Bobcat
I have created a file of "Spark" the modified Bobcat. 3 of the photos are from Howard Rice, the previous owner. One is mine. More will follow when and if I get around to taking them.
Sorry to all for the system sending out multiple notices of pictures being posted. Just getting the hang of this Yahoo group thing.
Dave
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
From: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:02:19 -0700
Subject: [bolger] Re: Modified Bolger Bobcat
I wouldn't guess there's much room to move around in there.
The advantage comes from additional self righting, the lockup, and the irresistible miniature cruiser looks.
Nicely done. The house looks perfectly proportioned
Mark
On Jul 10, 2014 2:44 PM, "motorcyclejack2@...[bolger]" <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:nice. is it big enough to sleep in?
---Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, <philbolger@...> wrote :Awfully cute, as Phil might remark.
- What are the ergonomics of the cuddy on this 12-footer ?
- Is the rudder deeper to make up for the missing endplate ?
Susanne Altenburger, PB&FSent:Wednesday, July 09, 2014 10:56 PMSubject:[bolger] Re: Modified Bolger Bobcat
I have created a file of "Spark" the modified Bobcat. 3 of the photos are from Howard Rice, the previous owner. One is mine. More will follow when and if I get around to taking them.
Sorry to all for the system sending out multiple notices of pictures being posted. Just getting the hang of this Yahoo group thing.
Dave
I wouldn't guess there's much room to move around in there.
The advantage comes from additional self righting, the lockup, and the irresistible miniature cruiser looks.
Nicely done. The house looks perfectly proportioned
Mark
On Jul 10, 2014 2:44 PM, "motorcyclejack2@...[bolger]" <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:nice. is it big enough to sleep in?
---Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, <philbolger@...> wrote :Awfully cute, as Phil might remark.
- What are the ergonomics of the cuddy on this 12-footer ?
- Is the rudder deeper to make up for the missing endplate ?
Susanne Altenburger, PB&FSent:Wednesday, July 09, 2014 10:56 PMSubject:[bolger] Re: Modified Bolger BobcatI have created a file of "Spark" the modified Bobcat. 3 of the photos are from Howard Rice, the previous owner. One is mine. More will follow when and if I get around to taking them.
Sorry to all for the system sending out multiple notices of pictures being posted. Just getting the hang of this Yahoo group thing.
Dave
---In bolger@yahoogroups.com, <philbolger@...> wrote :
- What are the ergonomics of the cuddy on this 12-footer ?
- Is the rudder deeper to make up for the missing endplate ?
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
I have created a file of "Spark" the modified Bobcat. 3 of the photos are from Howard Rice, the previous owner. One is mine. More will follow when and if I get around to taking them.
Sorry to all for the system sending out multiple notices of pictures being posted. Just getting the hang of this Yahoo group thing.
Dave
- What are the ergonomics of the cuddy on this 12-footer ?
- Is the rudder deeper to make up for the missing endplate ?
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
I have created a file of "Spark" the modified Bobcat. 3 of the photos are from Howard Rice, the previous owner. One is mine. More will follow when and if I get around to taking them.
Sorry to all for the system sending out multiple notices of pictures being posted. Just getting the hang of this Yahoo group thing.
Dave
I have created a file of "Spark" the modified Bobcat. 3 of the photos are from Howard Rice, the previous owner. One is mine. More will follow when and if I get around to taking them.
Sorry to all for the system sending out multiple notices of pictures being posted. Just getting the hang of this Yahoo group thing.
Dave
---In bolger@yahoogroups.com, <dchamb@...> wrote :
hello sir,
i'd love to see some pics of the boat. sounds pretty cool.
vince
Hello all-
I recently purchased a Bolger Bobcat that has a cabin and has been set up for cruising. While I do not plan to use it as a cruiser I liked the looks and history of the boat. I have a sister who enjoys sailing and may use the boat on occasion when I'm not available. She is unable to raise the sail, too much friction I suppose with the lines running through the slots at the top of the mast (forgive my lack of proper terminology). Anyone ever use blocks at the top of the mast instead? Seems like this would help, wondering about block size and everything. Any thoughts?
Dave
Whack-boing! It's dub!
If your halyard is running through a slot cut in the mast (a dumb sheave), a real sheave or block would help.
Duckworks sells blocks and sheaves (http://www.duckworksbbs.com/hardware.htm) which are usually sized by the diameter of the line. I imagine your using 1/4 inch (or maybe 3/8 inch) line?
I don't think you'll want a swivel block since it might twist, and twist your halyard.
Bill in Texas
Long Micro Pugnacious
Hello all-
I recently purchased a Bolger Bobcat that has a cabin and has been set up for cruising. While I do not plan to use it as a cruiser I liked the looks and history of the boat. I have a sister who enjoys sailing and may use the boat on occasion when I'm not available. She is unable to raise the sail, too much friction I suppose with the lines running through the slots at the top of the mast (forgive my lack of proper terminology). Anyone ever use blocks at the top of the mast instead? Seems like this would help, wondering about block size and everything. Any thoughts?
Dave