RE: [bolger] Re: 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer Review
Good day. I think the canted boom goes two ways. it is
carrying the sail higher and if you put a lot of presure on the boom the mast
wil bend and you can go better against the wind.
hilbert.
I should
have said "_equal luff and_equal area jib headed sails, one with a moderately canted foot is
more efficient than one with a right angled foot? Why that would be is an
interesting question..." - Bill
From:bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com]
Sent:Tuesday, October 28, 2014 7:24 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject:RE: [bolger] Re: 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer Review
Could it
be that when comparing equal area jib headed sails, one with a moderately
canted foot is more efficient than one with a right angled foot? Why that would
be is an interesting question...
From:bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com]
Sent:Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:12 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject:[bolger] Re: 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer Review
"anybody figure out why the boom is canted up like that?"
Nope.
I wondered about that too. Head room would be too obvious,
no? Surely not so much for vision ... How about keeping the clew
out of the water when heeled hard over in an attempt to minimise
knockdown? ... narrow boat... largish, and high sail... waves.. rounding
the downwind mark... whoops..
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The text tells the story (of the sail shape): "The luff is the maximum length allowed for this sail area class".
This is a boat designed to a rating rule. The shape of the sail is to maximize both the sail area and the luff length within the allowable limits.
Also, getting the sail area as high as possible, and giving head room and keeping the boom clear of the water were all probably in Phil's mind.
Bob
This is a boat designed to a rating rule. The shape of the sail is to maximize both the sail area and the luff length within the allowable limits.
Also, getting the sail area as high as possible, and giving head room and keeping the boom clear of the water were all probably in Phil's mind.
Bob
Could it
be that when comparing equal area jib headed sails, one with a moderately
canted foot is more efficient than one with a right angled foot? Why that would
be is an interesting question...
From:bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com]
Sent:Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:12 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject:[bolger] Re: 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer Review
"anybody figure out why the boom is canted up like that?"
Nope.
I wondered about that too. Head room would be too obvious,
no? Surely not so much for vision ... How about keeping the clew
out of the water when heeled hard over in an attempt to minimise
knockdown? ... narrow boat... largish, and high sail... waves.. rounding
the downwind mark... whoops..
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"anybody figure out why the boom is canted up like that?"
Nope.
I wondered about that too. Head room would be too obvious, no? Surely not so much for vision ... How about keeping the clew out of the water when heeled hard over in an attempt to minimise knockdown? ... narrow boat... largish, and high sail... waves.. rounding the downwind mark... whoops..
Without actually looking, sure reminds me of a Flying Dutchman, or any of the Uffa Fox dinghys.
Very cool. Even then he was into strange rigs--anybody figure out why the boom is canted up like that? Big roachy main... cool stuff. Anathema to his "grown up" philosophy.
Looks a lot like some of the old Uffa Fox 14 designs, I think. I am a long way from
home and can't look at my dad's old Fox books. Small planing light weight dinghy,
looks like fun.
HJ
surprised Phil bothered - the thing looks too specialist and inbred to appeal to
home and can't look at my dad's old Fox books. Small planing light weight dinghy,
looks like fun.
HJ
surprised Phil bothered - the thing looks too specialist and inbred to appeal to
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...it happens to all of us... certainly does to me !
Good thing that the bubble over my head full of my first not-best response can (usually) not be seen.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Good thing that the bubble over my head full of my first not-best response can (usually) not be seen.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Sent:Sunday, October 26, 2014 6:41 PM
Subject:RE: [bolger] 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer
Review
oops! - 1950! - all is forgiven
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frank
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
From: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:38:37 +0000
Subject: RE: [bolger] 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer Review
frank
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
From: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:38:37 +0000
Subject: RE: [bolger] 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer Review
surprised Phil bothered - the thing looks too specialist and inbred
to appeal to any other than those already living in that particular hothouse
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sorry - really no offense meant - and after all , I own an international 10m2 sliding seat canoe .....
frank
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
From: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 15:12:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [bolger] 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer Review
sorry - really no offense meant - and after all , I own an international 10m2 sliding seat canoe .....
frank
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
From: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 15:12:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [bolger] 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer Review
Good find !
It looks familiar to me.
I’ll have to check.
Keep hunting for more such ‘sightings’...
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
I’ll have to check.
Keep hunting for more such ‘sightings’...
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Sent:Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:38 AM
Subject:[bolger] 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer Review [1
Attachment]
New
one on me. Take a look at the magazine page pic on ebay.
LOA 24'6", LWL 19'6",
BOA 6'1", WLB 5'1"; Disp 1050lbs, Light ship 500lbs; Una rigged Marconi 196 sq
ft, Mast 32' lightly stayed; hull 3/8" cedar stip or 1/4" molded ply; twin
daggerboard in each bilge of assymetric section. Hiking board?? 3 crew
ballasted??
Price:US $6.00
+$13.00 shipping
eBay item
number: 371169881902oops! - 1950! - all is forgiven ....
frank
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
From: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:38:37 +0000
Subject: RE: [bolger] 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer Review
frank
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
From: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:38:37 +0000
Subject: RE: [bolger] 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer Review
surprised Phil bothered - the thing looks too specialist and inbred to appeal to any other than those already living in that particular hothouse ....
sorry - really no offense meant - and after all , I own an international 10m2 sliding seat canoe .....
frank
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
From: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 15:12:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [bolger] 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer Review
sorry - really no offense meant - and after all , I own an international 10m2 sliding seat canoe .....
frank
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
From: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 15:12:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [bolger] 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer Review
Good find !
It looks familiar to me.
I’ll have to check.
Keep hunting for more such ‘sightings’...
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
I’ll have to check.
Keep hunting for more such ‘sightings’...
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Sent:Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:38 AM
Subject:[bolger] 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer Review [1
Attachment]
New one on me.
Take a look at the magazine page pic on ebay.
LOA 24'6", LWL 19'6", BOA 6'1",
WLB 5'1"; Disp 1050lbs, Light ship 500lbs; Una rigged Marconi 196 sq ft, Mast
32' lightly stayed; hull 3/8" cedar stip or 1/4" molded ply; twin daggerboard in
each bilge of assymetric section. Hiking board?? 3 crew ballasted??
Price:US $6.00
+$13.00 shipping
eBay item number:
371169881902surprised Phil bothered - the thing looks too specialist and inbred to appeal to any other than those already living in that particular hothouse ....
sorry - really no offense meant - and after all , I own an international 10m2 sliding seat canoe .....
frank
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
From: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 15:12:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [bolger] 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer Review
sorry - really no offense meant - and after all , I own an international 10m2 sliding seat canoe .....
frank
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
From: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 15:12:30 -0400
Subject: Re: [bolger] 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer Review
Good find !
It looks familiar to me.
I’ll have to check.
Keep hunting for more such ‘sightings’...
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
I’ll have to check.
Keep hunting for more such ‘sightings’...
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Sent:Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:38 AM
Subject:[bolger] 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer Review [1
Attachment]
New one on me.
Take a look at the magazine page pic on ebay.
LOA 24'6", LWL 19'6", BOA 6'1",
WLB 5'1"; Disp 1050lbs, Light ship 500lbs; Una rigged Marconi 196 sq ft, Mast
32' lightly stayed; hull 3/8" cedar stip or 1/4" molded ply; twin daggerboard in
each bilge of assymetric section. Hiking board?? 3 crew ballasted??
Price:US $6.00
+$13.00 shipping
eBay item number:
371169881902Good find !
It looks familiar to me.
I’ll have to check.
Keep hunting for more such ‘sightings’...
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
I’ll have to check.
Keep hunting for more such ‘sightings’...
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Sent:Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:38 AM
Subject:[bolger] 1950? 15 Rater Rudder Rule Racer Review [1
Attachment]
New one on me.
Take a look at the magazine page pic on ebay.
LOA 24'6", LWL 19'6", BOA 6'1",
WLB 5'1"; Disp 1050lbs, Light ship 500lbs; Una rigged Marconi 196 sq ft, Mast
32' lightly stayed; hull 3/8" cedar stip or 1/4" molded ply; twin daggerboard in
each bilge of assymetric section. Hiking board?? 3 crew ballasted??
Price:US $6.00
+$13.00 shipping
eBay item number:
371169881902New one on me. Take a look at the magazine page pic on ebay.
LOA 24'6", LWL 19'6", BOA 6'1", WLB 5'1"; Disp 1050lbs, Light ship 500lbs; Una rigged Marconi 196 sq ft, Mast 32' lightly stayed; hull 3/8" cedar stip or 1/4" molded ply; twin daggerboard in each bilge of assymetric section. Hiking board?? 3 crew ballasted??
Price:US $6.00
+$13.00 shipping
eBay item number: 371169881902