Re: Re: Re: Re: [bolger] Wandervogel/ State of Affairs at PB&F [3 Attachments]
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On ene 31, 2016, at 9:26 pm, Stefan Topolskipublic@...[bolger] <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> On ene 9, 2016, at 8:39 pm,philbolger@...[bolger] <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Hello All,
> All extant plans remain available, typically at unchanged prices, always to build one boat:
> - #496 Birdwatcher 2 with both versions on 11 sheets = $200.-
> - #584 Micro-Trawler = $150.-
> - #581 Bee = $35.-
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> In MAIB (Messing About In Boats) I have continued Phil’s, then our, and now my regular column almost perfectly uninterrupted since his death, with the series now at 496 consecutive discussions headed into print.
> This continues our range of topics across design-concepts, full designs, home-port fisheries-politics, the SACPAS-3/GADABOUT 39-foot boat-construction project, Gloucester Working Waterfront policies etc, i.e. everything related to our work, except for the ‘big’ Navy stuff published so far elsewhere.
> Those dozens of MAIB articles since May 24 2009 offer a sense what has been happening here.
> As the various series of studies on CHAMPLAIN- and WINDERMERE-derivatives illustrate, relative creativity has returned reasonably reliably, with my cautious approach still under-ambitious.
> So this month’s MAIB offers a derivative of MICRO, with next month another such to another well-known design.
> I am now at about 70 such design-columns after Phil, plus what Bob Hocks reprinted when I was not well, plus other folks’ discussions of their Bolger boats.
> Still I have not yet gotten to Phil’s productive single-minded rhythm, not yet possible in light of these other distractions – in addition to tending to house, cars, life etc.
> Things are still not where they need to be in terms of books for instance, but ordered plans get printed and sent, and most mail answered within reasonable time-frame.
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> But serious things have gotten done, with, of course, way more left to be done...
> As the extensively/endlessly (?) documented #681 SACPAS-3/GADABOUT project has proven as of last late-June through late-July, post-Phil/Phil-independent design- and (this once !) construction-work has proven to be successful indeed – a rather affirming, indeed therapeutic experience with over 2/3s of the labor in that boat my own brain-first-then-physical-hands-on work.
> As you know, this is a design-office.
> So, finally and successfully completing this 8400lbs (wet) go-fast 39-footer construction-project took extraordinary measures and energies.
> Now she is in the middle of being adapted for her ‘Second Life’ as a comfortable displacement-speed cruiser...
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> On WANDERVOGEL, as it has often been the case when Phil was doing this work, then us together, it would help if there was funding on the table to at least help subsidize me doing this design to full buildable plans-format.
> As Phil discussed on various occasions, in the past like-minded folks have joined to pool limited resources to at least help with part of the cost of doing this.
> Quite a few designs done just ‘on speculation’ have never produced ‘black numbers’.
> WANDERVOGEL being my concept-design, she would be my choice for my own coastal-cruiser, with even a perfect space available here to put her together - much easier to contemplate after SACPAS-3.
> And I have the trailer as well. But not quite the time to set aside for the design, never mind building her.
> Before any more boats get built, the books have to be coming out of the printing-press !
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> And as to Navy and Marine Corps things, here a minor contribution in Comments-&-Discussion column of the December PROCEEDINGS of the US Naval Institute:http://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2015-12/comment-discussion%c2%a0
> No telling yet where any of this will go after a massive amount of energy invested...
> LCU-F remains unbeaten conceptually.
> But ‘reactionaries’ and ‘muggles’ with their own under-performing preferences have been ‘messing about’ in ways quite astonishing, since in or the other way in public view ?!
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> Finally if it gives anybody any comfort, no vacations here, no cruises, no wasting of time – not much at least... – while constantly sounding the increasing levels of health and stamina.
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> Onwards
> Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
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> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2016 12:10 AM
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: wandervogel
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> My sentiments exactly. I was interested in Birdwatcher 2, Microtrawler and Bee
> Cheers
> Ed
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> From: "flannelmanent@...[bolger]" <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, 1 January 2016, 15:53
> Subject: [bolger] Re: wandervogel
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> thank you for the reply. So, Wandervogel plans are not completed as I suspected. I'm sorry to hear that. One of the reasons I lost interest was because while I loved the boats and Phil's problem solving, there were some fundamental problems that were not being resolved concerning cataloging and distributing said plans. When I left Phil had passed and Susanne was focusing on the military contracts I believe. There was almost no accessibility to her at this time. It was "Fax your communication in and hope somebody gets back to you".
> These pages were full of folk complaining of the lack of responses. I understand and was sympathetic towards Susanne's dilemma and the reasons behind them but that did not change the fact that i did not want to do business with PB&F's. If this is still basically the same situation i will just move on but if there has been some attention to these issues and there is a possibility of getting actual results I would consider following up.
> Can anybody let me know what the ballpark costs of a design would be? Please advise.
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On ene 31, 2016, at 9:25 pm, Stefan Topolskipublic@...[bolger] <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> On ene 12, 2016, at 1:39 am,flannelmanent@...[bolger] <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> thank you Susanne for the update. Sincerely happy things are going well at PB&F. I am excited to hear that Wandervogel may become a reality. What is the next step?
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On ene 31, 2016, at 9:24 pm, Stefan Topolskipublic@...[bolger] <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> On ene 12, 2016, at 3:06 pm,kk7b@...[bolger] <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Hi Susan,
> Quick note regarding "As you know, this is a design-office."
>
> I'm designer in a parallel universe, analog/Radio Frequency electronics, often for portable and/or marine environments. I also teach design at a university, and have written books on the subject. Phil Bolger is the example I always use with my students for how to be a designer. My weekly study guides for classes often start with a quote from one of the books--I can see "Boats with an Open Mind," "100 Small Boat Rigs," and "30-odd Boats" from where I'm sitting in my own Analog/RF design-office-lab.
>
> I come by my admiration somewhat honestly. I built a Bolger Nymph decades ago, and then extensively modified it into a minuscule passage-making sail craft that has been displayed at the Port Townsend Wooden Boat Show. A frequent co-author built and sails a Bolger Birdwatcher. I have several young friends who graduated from wooden boat schools and sail everything from schooners to Washington State Ferries, and my son, who helped with the Nymph when he was 3, is now an oceanographer. I inherited several of the Bolger books from my dad's library.
>
> I want you to know that you are not just a design-office, you are The Archetype Design-Office, the example I hold up for a next generation of designers. All the stuff that feels messy and cluttered and busy and sometimes off-grid and often unfunded and intertwined with individual human frailties--that's how brilliant design works. ...Some occasionally blissful intersection of an artist's willingness to confront our senses and preconceptions, with technical depth that baffles engineering graduate students...combined with a penchant for working long hours on something that might turn out to be almost-good design #399 instead of incredible #400...and then write honestly about it.
>
> Phil Bolger and Friends influence extends well beyond your extensive catalog of plans and continuous contributions to the literature: books, SBJ cartoons, and all the MAIB pages.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
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>
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On ene 31, 2016, at 9:24 pm, Stefan Topolskipublic@...[bolger] <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> On ene 12, 2016, at 5:11 pm, jeff bybeebyb6161@...[bolger] <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> what books are going to be comming out? thankyou and best wishes to you ms Altenberger we root for you just as we miss Mr Bolger. Jef Bybee
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> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 1:07 PM, "kk7b@...[bolger]" <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Hi Susan,
> Quick note regarding "As you know, this is a design-office."
>
> I'm designer in a parallel universe, analog/Radio Frequency electronics, often for portable and/or marine environments. I also teach design at a university, and have written books on the subject. Phil Bolger is the example I always use with my students for how to be a designer. My weekly study guides for classes often start with a quote from one of the books--I can see "Boats with an Open Mind," "100 Small Boat Rigs," and "30-odd Boats" from where I'm sitting in my own Analog/RF design-office-lab.
>
> I come by my adm iration somewhat honestly. I built a Bolger Nymph decades ago, and then extensively modified it into a minuscule passage-making sail craft that has been displayed at the Port Townsend Wooden Boat Show. A frequent co-author built and sails a Bolger Birdwatcher. I have several young friends who graduated from wooden boat schools and sail everything from schooners to Washington State Ferries, and my son, who helped with the Nymph when he was 3, is now an oceanographer. I inherited several of the Bolger books from my dad's library.
>
> I want you to know that you are not just a design-office, you are The Archetype Design-Office, the example I hold up for a next generation of designers. All the stuff that feels messy and cluttered and busy and sometimes off-grid and often unfunded and intertwined with indiv idual human frailties--that's how brilliant design wo rks. ...Some occasionally blissful intersection of an artist's willingness to confront our senses and preconceptions, with technical depth that baffles engineering graduate students...combined with a penchant for working long hours on something that might turn out to be almost-good design #399 instead of incredible #400...and then write honestly about it.
>
> Phil Bolger and Friends influence extends well beyond your extensive catalog of plans and continuous contributions to the literature: books, SBJ cartoons, and all the MAIB pages.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>
>
>
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On ene 31, 2016, at 9:24 pm, Stefan Topolskipublic@...[bolger] <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Please contact Dr. Topolski, Trailside Health, and our nonprofit Caring in Community 501(c)3 directly by phone or fax.
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> On ene 12, 2016, at 5:31 pm, Bill Howardbillh39@...[bolger] <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Bravo, Rick, whoever you are. Wish I had said that.
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> On Jan 12, 2016, at 5:11 PM, jeff bybeebyb6161@...[bolger] <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> what books are going to be comming out? thankyou and best wishes to you ms Altenberger we root for you just as we miss Mr Bolger. Jef Bybee
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 1:07 PM, "kk7b@...[bolger]" <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Susan,
> Quick note regarding "As you know, this is a design-office."
>
> I'm designer in a parallel universe, analog/Radio Frequency electronics, often for portable and/or marine environments. I also teach design at a university, and have written books on the subject. Phil Bolger is the example I always use with my students for how to be a designer. My weekly study guides for classes often start with a quote from one of the books--I can see "Boats with an Open Mind," "100 Small Boat Rigs," and "30-odd Boats" from where I'm sitting in my own Analog/RF design-office-lab.
>
> I come by my admiration somewhat honestly. I built a Bolger Nymph decades ago, and then extensively modified it into a minuscule passage-making sail craft that has been displayed at the Port Townsend Wooden Boat Show. A frequent co-author built and sails a Bolger Birdwatcher. I have several young friends who graduated from wooden boat schools and sail everything from schooners to Washington State Ferries, and my son, who helped with the Nymph when he was 3, is now an oceanographer. I inherited several of the Bolger books from my dad's library.
>
> I want you to know that you are not just a design-offic e, you are The Archetype Design-Office, the example I hold up for a next generation of designers. All the stuff that feels messy and cluttered and busy and sometimes off-grid and often unfunded and intertwined with individual human frailties--that's how brilliant design works. ...Some occasionally blissful intersection of an artist's willingness to confront our senses and preconceptions, with technical depth that baffles engineering graduate students...combined with a penchant for working long hours on something that might turn out to be almost-good design #399 instead of incredible #400...and then write honestly about it.
>
> Phil Bolger and Friends influence extends well beyond your extensive catalog of plans and continuous contributions to the literature: books, SBJ cartoons, and all the MAIB pages.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>
>
>
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