Re: [bolger] Bolger Micro BOM
A cheap swimming pool works well. Most of my inside parts are free shipping crate parts. I built cabinets also. About all I buy is plywood and a few 1 x 4 s. My mast is made from a ripped in half twisted end to end and glued back together. Laminated makes strong masts. I prime inside and out with TB II. Good luck. Chief
On Feb 22, 2016 12:30 PM, "rameses32@...[bolger]" <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Thanks for the tip on soaking packing crates before taking them apartš I never thought of that.
HJ
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I am all for scrounging, making do and mending... But there are limits.
For me the primary limit is safety.
You can staple boats together from practically anything (carving out a log is a good example). And people have done this for centuries.
The warning should stand: Use your head...
I'm all for packing crates and tape on ponds and small lakes where the distance to land is short and the chance of rescue certain.
As PCB wrote. The plywood (and hull materials in general) is only a small proportion of the cost of a boat. Therefore even a big saving there will be only a small saving in the overall scheme of things.
PCB advocated saving first on the interior and finish, then less clearly on the power plant. Michalak would add even save on the sails. (Polytarp is cheap and simple for a cheap and simple boat).
Micro (including the lead keel) is a significant enough project to warrant doing the hull properly even if you want to skimp wherever possible. When I sail anything on the Eastern South Pacific (West coast of South America) I know life is on the line and I would never forgive myself for skimping if anything went wrong.
Skimping on small boats is fine. Skimping on big boats is probably a false economy if not dangerous.
David
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For me the primary limit is safety.
You can staple boats together from practically anything (carving out a log is a good example). And people have done this for centuries.
The warning should stand: Use your head...
I'm all for packing crates and tape on ponds and small lakes where the distance to land is short and the chance of rescue certain.
As PCB wrote. The plywood (and hull materials in general) is only a small proportion of the cost of a boat. Therefore even a big saving there will be only a small saving in the overall scheme of things.
PCB advocated saving first on the interior and finish, then less clearly on the power plant. Michalak would add even save on the sails. (Polytarp is cheap and simple for a cheap and simple boat).
Micro (including the lead keel) is a significant enough project to warrant doing the hull properly even if you want to skimp wherever possible. When I sail anything on the Eastern South Pacific (West coast of South America) I know life is on the line and I would never forgive myself for skimping if anything went wrong.
Skimping on small boats is fine. Skimping on big boats is probably a false economy if not dangerous.
David
For me the primary limit is safety.
You can staple boats together from practically anything (carving out a log is a good example). And people have done this for centuries.
The warning should stand: Use your head...
I'm all for packing crates and tape on ponds and small lakes where the distance to land is short and the chance of rescue certain.
As PCB wrote. The plywood (and hull materials in general) is only a small proportion of the cost of a boat. Therefore even a big saving there will be only a small saving in the overall scheme of things.
PCB advocated saving first on the interior and finish, then less clearly on the power plant. Michalak would add even save on the sails. (Polytarp is cheap and simple for a cheap and simple boat).
Micro (including the lead keel) is a significant enough project to warrant doing the hull properly even if you want to skimp wherever possible. When I sail anything on the Eastern South Pacific (West coast of South America) I know life is on the line and I would never forgive myself for skimping if anything went wrong.
Skimping on small boats is fine. Skimping on big boats is probably a false economy if not dangerous.
David
You think a lot like me. But of course, the way I build is so much LESS EXPENSIVE,,,than buying. I gather scrap lumber and buy NO epoxy, NEVER pay full price for paint, 8 dollars of sheet rock fiberglass tape, 20 bucks for TBII and I never buy screws. Staple gun drives my fasteners home. 125 Dollars or LESS, is my average cost for a complete 8 foot sail boat including Poly tarp sail. Free wood from shipping crates can be had. Soak crates in water so they don't crack when taken apart. Re- homing scrap wood and using gate hinges on my rudders saves money and is fun. Have a great day. Chief
On Feb 22, 2016 2:07 AM, "rameses32@...[bolger]" <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Buying was never an option, building, learning, scrounging, and finally sailing is 75% of the reason for this project. If you could see the things inside and out side of my home, you would see that I thrive on creating, it keeps me sane. If I were going to buy a sailboat, it would be this one ,eBaybut unless I am going to live on the boat I will never buy a boat that lives in the water, unless I win lottoš
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Wow, you hit the nail right on the head. My boats were born in my mind, grew in my imagination, came to be in my eyes by my hands and earned my respect which they give back to me. Nothing speaks to a man like sailing a boat he designed, built, and spent hours working bugs out. Launch day is birth day. Your child comes to life. She grows up fast to become a cherished friend. When life throws me a curve I can walk up to the boat barn lay my hand on one of several babies born of myself, my boats, and feel an energy if joy. Strange to some but familiar to an artist. Good night. Chief
On Feb 21, 2016 8:26 PM, "dir_cobb@...[bolger]" <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Suzanne
Further your thoughtful comment regarding building or buying I think there is a lot more to the decision than simply cost and economic rationale as well as the posthumous availability for third parties...
1) I enjoy building almost as much as sailing. I live/work 2 hours by car from my nearest sailing area and therefore enjoy boat building as the second half of the therapy. I enjoy working on my boats and other peoples. Building allows me to dream and scheme and extend the reality of boats and boating. It also provides a fantastic opportunity for father/son interaction with sharing skills, time and friendship an important part of it.
2) Many of my friends at the yacht club are surprised that my son (now coming up 17) still regularly will come sailing/building/working with me. I believe building has a lot to do with it. In a time when time is money and personal relationships are changing, spending time on a big project with your father/son is a privilege which few people enjoy these days.
3) We are currently building a 23' Sea Bird 86 which follows in the footsteps of an Oldshoe, a Nymph (converted to Reuben's Nymph), a Zephyr and a Skimmer as well as a small "Mouse" by Gavin Atkin. So I confess I may be biased towards building.
4) I would suggest that building a smaller simple boat to develop the skills is a great starting point. It can be discouraging to have 40 sheets of plywood waiting to be made into a boat in your front yard. Building takes time and dedication (as well as space).
5) I think Jim Michalak is right when he says it really is not (economically) worth designing/building boats over 25' or so unless you are looking for something very particular because there are so many second hand boats out there for sale at far less than the cost of building (and with a good chance of performing as well or better).
However, I believe this analysis misses a point (or I wouldn't be building Seabird):
- In a day when we are used to instant gratification and buying what we want now, boat building allows a contact with the past where we have to work hard and wait for the project to mature. Nothing compares with the feeling of sailing/using something you made yourself.
- when you build a boat it carries your personality. It may be perfectly finished or workboat standard, it may be aesthetically conservative or completely open minded. It will definitely always be partly you.
- I have repaired and worked on many boats, but I know my own from stem to stern and from keel to masthead. I am therefore confident I know what I can do and what I can't.
- I can like a fiberglass boat but there is no connection. With a wooden boat you build yourself there is a connection which you can enjoy.
- I don't worship my boats. They are to be used and if they are damaged they can be repaired or end their days as flowerpots (as my Zephyr is now doing). It may sound a waste of money but, if you enjoy the building and the using and the sharing) there is nothing wrong with building cheap semi disposable wooden boats. I went super cheap on Zephyr and the Skimmer. Zephyr did 5 years for under US$200 in materials And 10 days work over a vacation period while Skimmer cost just 2 sheets of 3/8" standard WBP pine plywood, a few bits of wood, glue, paint and nails from a small local hardware store. It took my then 12 year old son 4 days partial labor with some help from his friends from buying the materials to being on the water. The only real expense with the skimmer was the 9.8 hp Tohatsu which will power the Seabird once we finish her. The Skimmer has served as a platform to teach windsurfing, rescued sailboats, used as a general runabout as well as being greatly enjoyed both by users and bystanders alike.
- I believe building boats develops your skills, your patience, your personality and your sense of humor. As well as giving you something productive on which to expend the energy that you might otherwise be wasting or using in more self destructive ways.
- Building boats reconnects you with simple technology, time honored skills and knowledge.
So: No, I don't build boats because it makes economic sense. I build boats because I enjoy it, because I enjoy making things and expanding the skill set. I enjoy seeing a project develop from plan to 3D and I enjoy the privilege of using it afterwards. But most of all, I build boats because it is an expression of who I am that builds bridges with other people that no fiberglass boat would ever do.
I agree with Thomas Fleming Day's principle "All hands build boats". But I also believe in the KISS principle. Start small and then get more adventurous. A finished boat is a joy. A half finished boat encumbers an estate and can become a serious bone of contention.
David
Santiago, Chile.
On Feb 21, 2016, at 9:26 PM,dir_cobb@...[bolger] <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Suzanne
Further your thoughtful comment regarding building or buying I think there is a lot more to the decision than simply cost and economic rationale as well as the posthumous availability for third parties...
1) I enjoy building almost as much as sailing. I live/work 2 hours by car from my nearest sailing area and therefore enjoy boat building as the second half of the therapy. I enjoy working on my boats and other peoples. Building allows me to dream and scheme and extend the reality of boats and boating. It also provides a fantastic opportunity for father/son interaction with sharing skills, time and friendship an important part of it.
2) Many of my friends at the yacht club are surprised that my son (now coming up 17) still regularly will come sailing/building/working with me. I believe building has a lot to do with it. In a time when time is money and personal relationships are changing, spending time on a big project with your father/son is a privilege which few people enjoy these days.
3) We are currently building a 23' Sea Bird 86 which follows in the footsteps of an Oldshoe, a Nymph (converted to Reuben's Nymph), a Zephyr and a Skimmer as well as a small "Mouse" by Gavin Atkin. So I confess I may be biased towards building.
4) I would suggest that building a smaller simple boat to develop the skills is a great starting point. It can be discouraging to have 40 sheets of plywood waiting to be made into a boat in your front yard. Building takes time and dedication (as well as space).
5) I think Jim Michalak is right when he says it really is not (economically) worth designing/building boats over 25' or so unless you are looking for something very particular because there are so many second hand boats out there for sale at far less than the cost of building (and with a good chance of performing as well or better).
However, I believe this analysis misses a point (or I wouldn't be building Seabird):
- In a day when we are used to instant gratification and buying what we want now, boat building allows a contact with the past where we have to work hard and wait for the project to mature. Nothing compares with the feeling of sailing/using something you made yourself.
- when you build a boat it carries your personality. It may be perfectly finished or workboat standard, it may be aesthetically conservative or completely open minded. It will definitely always be partly you.
- I have repaired and worked on many boats, but I know my own from stem to stern and from keel to masthead. I am therefore confident I know what I can do and what I can't.
- I can like a fiberglass boat but there is no connection. With a wooden boat you build yourself there is a connection which you can enjoy.
- I don't worship my boats. They are to be used and if they are damaged they can be repaired or end their days as flowerpots (as my Zephyr is now doing). It may sound a waste of money but, if you enjoy the building and the using and the sharing) there is nothing wrong with building cheap semi disposable wooden boats. I went super cheap on Zephyr and the Skimmer. Zephyr did 5 years for under US$200 in materials And 10 days work over a vacation period while Skimmer cost just 2 sheets of 3/8" standard WBP pine plywood, a few bits of wood, glue, paint and nails from a small local hardware store. It took my then 12 year old son 4 days partial labor with some help from his friends from buying the materials to being on the water. The only real expense with the skimmer was the 9.8 hp Tohatsu which will power the Seabird once we finish her. The Skimmer has served as a platform to teach windsurfing, rescued sailboats, used as a general runabout as well as being greatly enjoyed both by users and bystanders alike.
- I believe building boats develops your skills, your patience, your personality and your sense of humor. As well as giving you something productive on which to expend the energy that you might otherwise be wasting or using in more self destructive ways.
- Building boats reconnects you with simple technology, time honored skills and knowledge.
So: No, I don't build boats because it makes economic sense. I build boats because I enjoy it, because I enjoy making things and expanding the skill set. I enjoy seeing a project develop from plan to 3D and I enjoy the privilege of using it afterwards. But most of all, I build boats because it is an expression of who I am that builds bridges with other people that no fiberglass boat would ever do.
I agree with Thomas Fleming Day's principle "All hands build boats". But I also believe in the KISS principle. Start small and then get more adventurous. A finished boat is a joy. A half finished boat encumbers an estate and can become a serious bone of contention.
David
Santiago, Chile.
Further your thoughtful comment regarding building or buying I think there is a lot more to the decision than simply cost and economic rationale as well as the posthumous availability for third parties...
1) I enjoy building almost as much as sailing. I live/work 2 hours by car from my nearest sailing area and therefore enjoy boat building as the second half of the therapy. I enjoy working on my boats and other peoples. Building allows me to dream and scheme and extend the reality of boats and boating. It also provides a fantastic opportunity for father/son interaction with sharing skills, time and friendship an important part of it.
2) Many of my friends at the yacht club are surprised that my son (now coming up 17) still regularly will come sailing/building/working with me. I believe building has a lot to do with it. In a time when time is money and personal relationships are changing, spending time on a big project with your father/son is a privilege which few people enjoy these days.
3) We are currently building a 23' Sea Bird 86 which follows in the footsteps of an Oldshoe, a Nymph (converted to Reuben's Nymph), a Zephyr and a Skimmer as well as a small "Mouse" by Gavin Atkin. So I confess I may be biased towards building.
4) I would suggest that building a smaller simple boat to develop the skills is a great starting point. It can be discouraging to have 40 sheets of plywood waiting to be made into a boat in your front yard. Building takes time and dedication (as well as space).
5) I think Jim Michalak is right when he says it really is not (economically) worth designing/building boats over 25' or so unless you are looking for something very particular because there are so many second hand boats out there for sale at far less than the cost of building (and with a good chance of performing as well or better).
However, I believe this analysis misses a point (or I wouldn't be building Seabird):
- In a day when we are used to instant gratification and buying what we want now, boat building allows a contact with the past where we have to work hard and wait for the project to mature. Nothing compares with the feeling of sailing/using something you made yourself.
- when you build a boat it carries your personality. It may be perfectly finished or workboat standard, it may be aesthetically conservative or completely open minded. It will definitely always be partly you.
- I have repaired and worked on many boats, but I know my own from stem to stern and from keel to masthead. I am therefore confident I know what I can do and what I can't.
- I can like a fiberglass boat but there is no connection. With a wooden boat you build yourself there is a connection which you can enjoy.
- I don't worship my boats. They are to be used and if they are damaged they can be repaired or end their days as flowerpots (as my Zephyr is now doing). It may sound a waste of money but, if you enjoy the building and the using and the sharing) there is nothing wrong with building cheap semi disposable wooden boats. I went super cheap on Zephyr and the Skimmer. Zephyr did 5 years for under US$200 in materials And 10 days work over a vacation period while Skimmer cost just 2 sheets of 3/8" standard WBP pine plywood, a few bits of wood, glue, paint and nails from a small local hardware store. It took my then 12 year old son 4 days partial labor with some help from his friends from buying the materials to being on the water. The only real expense with the skimmer was the 9.8 hp Tohatsu which will power the Seabird once we finish her. The Skimmer has served as a platform to teach windsurfing, rescued sailboats, used as a general runabout as well as being greatly enjoyed both by users and bystanders alike.
- I believe building boats develops your skills, your patience, your personality and your sense of humor. As well as giving you something productive on which to expend the energy that you might otherwise be wasting or using in more self destructive ways.
- Building boats reconnects you with simple technology, time honored skills and knowledge.
So: No, I don't build boats because it makes economic sense. I build boats because I enjoy it, because I enjoy making things and expanding the skill set. I enjoy seeing a project develop from plan to 3D and I enjoy the privilege of using it afterwards. But most of all, I build boats because it is an expression of who I am that builds bridges with other people that no fiberglass boat would ever do.
I agree with Thomas Fleming Day's principle "All hands build boats". But I also believe in the KISS principle. Start small and then get more adventurous. A finished boat is a joy. A half finished boat encumbers an estate and can become a serious bone of contention.
David
Santiago, Chile.
Sent:Sunday, February 21, 2016 5:45 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject:Re: [bolger] Bolger Micro BOM
I know you probably want to build one, but it would be easier and probably cheaper to bargain this one for sale in Victoria down.Bolger Micro Trailer Sailer (sailboat),
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/swan-hill/sail-boats/bolger-micro-trailer-sailer-sailboat-/1099150587Price: $7,500.00On 19 Feb 2016 11:47 PM, "rameses32@... [bolger]" <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Hello, my name is Charley, I live just outside of Port MacQuarie, Australia. I recently fell in love with the Micro, it ticks all the boxes for me, inexpensive to build (as far as sailboats are concerned), easy to sail, selfritious , can sleep two overnight with relative comfort, sails Upright (doesn't heal over like other sailboats, important feature if I ever want the wife to go sailing) and finally, and perhaps this is in the eye of the beholder, but I think the Micro is a beautiful boat, I was smitten as soon as I seen a photo of one in Gavin Atkins book, Ultrasimple Boatbuilding.Anyway, enough of my opinions, on with the facts, the is a local timber merchant selling tons of airdryed timber, white beach, red cedar, Oregon, hoop pine, just to name a few. Can anyone tell me how much I would need to build a micro? He has Oregon in 1x12, hoop, cedar and beech in 1x10, as well as other thicker sizes.Any help would be greatly appreciated as he is selling out fast.
...the fewer boats get built, the fewer will be available to buy....
Not just a cute one-liner but a plausible view on the realities involved.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Along that line, does anybody know of any extant "Sneakeasy", or better, "Idaho" power-sharpie, that is now (or might be coming up) for sale? Preferably West Coast USA... or at least that hemisphere.
Wayne Gilham
...prior owner of a Bolger Black Skimmer with custom galvanized trailer, bought as a dilapidated wreck , refurbished, cruised Chesapeake a LOT, and sold ten years ago, for FAR less than materials cost!
From:bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com]
Sent:Sunday, February 21, 2016 5:45 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject:Re: [bolger] Bolger Micro
BOM
I would think the new sails - Including gennaker (?!) would cost that where I live. And a galvanized custom trailer would be more. Then you get 2 motors, anchors, automatic bilge pump and probably a lot of other items. I've seen photos of that Aussie boat somewhere in the files, but can't recall the builders name now.
---Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, <tdsoren@...> wrote :
Wow.
hard to get all the material, sales and motors for than price let alone all of the labor.
Iād jump on it if it was in my hemisphere.
Tom
On Feb 19, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Liam Prescottblue_argonaut@...[bolger] <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I know you probably want to build one, but it would be easier and probably cheaper to bargain this one for sale in Victoria down.
Bolger Micro Trailer Sailer (sailboat),
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/swan-hill/sail-boats/bolger-micro-trailer-sailer-sailboat-/1099150587Price: $7,500.00
On 19 Feb 2016 11:47 PM, "rameses32@... [bolger]" <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hello, my name is Charley, I live just outside of Port MacQuarie, Australia. I recently fell in love with the Micro, it ticks all the boxes for me, inexpensive to build (as far as sailboats are concerned), easy to sail, selfritious , can sleep two overnight with relative comfort, sails Upright (doesn't heal over like other sailboats, important feature if I ever want the wife to go sailing) and finally, and perhaps this is in the eye of the beholder, but I think the Micro is a beautiful boat, I was smitten as soon as I seen a photo of one in Gavin Atkins book, Ultrasimple Boatbuilding.
Anyway, enough of my opinions, on with the facts, the is a local timber merchant selling tons of airdryed timber, white beach, red cedar, Oregon, hoop pine, just to name a few. Can anyone tell me how much I would need to build a micro? He has Oregon in 1x12, hoop, cedar and beech in 1x10, as well as other thicker sizes.
Any help would be greatly appreciated as he is selling out fast.
Along that line, does anybody know of any extant "Sneakeasy", or better, "Idaho" power-sharpie, that is now (or might be coming up) for sale? Preferably West Coast USA... or at least that hemisphere.
Wayne Gilham
...prior owner of a Bolger Black Skimmer with custom galvanized trailer, bought as a dilapidated wreck , refurbished, cruised Chesapeake a LOT, and sold ten years ago, for FAR less than materials cost!
From:bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com]
Sent:Sunday, February 21, 2016 5:45 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject:Re: [bolger] Bolger Micro BOM
I would think the new sails - Including gennaker (?!) would cost that where I live. And a galvanized custom trailer would be more. Then you get 2 motors, anchors, automatic bilge pump and probably a lot of other items. I've seen photos of that Aussie boat somewhere in the files, but can't recall the builders name now.
---Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, <tdsoren@...> wrote :
Wow.
hard to get all the material, sales and motors for than price let alone all of the labor.
Iād jump on it if it was in my hemisphere.
Tom
On Feb 19, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Liam Prescottblue_argonaut@...[bolger] <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I know you probably want to build one, but it would be easier and probably cheaper to bargain this one for sale in Victoria down.
Bolger Micro Trailer Sailer (sailboat),
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/swan-hill/sail-boats/bolger-micro-trailer-sailer-sailboat-/1099150587Price: $7,500.00
On 19 Feb 2016 11:47 PM, "rameses32@... [bolger]" <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hello, my name is Charley, I live just outside of Port MacQuarie, Australia. I recently fell in love with the Micro, it ticks all the boxes for me, inexpensive to build (as far as sailboats are concerned), easy to sail, selfritious , can sleep two overnight with relative comfort, sails Upright (doesn't heal over like other sailboats, important feature if I ever want the wife to go sailing) and finally, and perhaps this is in the eye of the beholder, but I think the Micro is a beautiful boat, I was smitten as soon as I seen a photo of one in Gavin Atkins book, Ultrasimple Boatbuilding.
Anyway, enough of my opinions, on with the facts, the is a local timber merchant selling tons of airdryed timber, white beach, red cedar, Oregon, hoop pine, just to name a few. Can anyone tell me how much I would need to build a micro? He has Oregon in 1x12, hoop, cedar and beech in 1x10, as well as other thicker sizes.
Any help would be greatly appreciated as he is selling out fast.
---In bolger@yahoogroups.com, <tdsoren@...> wrote :
I know you probably want to build one, but it would be easier and probably cheaper to bargain this one for sale in Victoria down.
Bolger Micro Trailer Sailer (sailboat),
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/swan-hill/sail-boats/bolger-micro-trailer-sailer-sailboat-/1099150587Price: $7,500.00
On 19 Feb 2016 11:47 PM, "rameses32@... [bolger]" <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Hello, my name is Charley, I live just outside of Port MacQuarie, Australia. I recently fell in love with the Micro, it ticks all the boxes for me, inexpensive to build (as far as sailboats are concerned), easy to sail, selfritious , can sleep two overnight with relative comfort, sails Upright (doesn't heal over like other sailboats, important feature if I ever want the wife to go sailing) and finally, and perhaps this is in the eye of the beholder, but I think the Micro is a beautiful boat, I was smitten as soon as I seen a photo of one in Gavin Atkins book, Ultrasimple Boatbuilding.
Anyway, enough of my opinions, on with the facts, the is a local timber merchant selling tons of airdryed timber, white beach, red cedar, Oregon, hoop pine, just to name a few. Can anyone tell me how much I would need to build a micro? He has Oregon in 1x12, hoop, cedar and beech in 1x10, as well as other thicker sizes.
Any help would be greatly appreciated as he is selling out fast.
I know you probably want to build one, but it would be easier and probably cheaper to bargain this one for sale in Victoria down.
Bolger Micro Trailer Sailer (sailboat),
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/swan-hill/sail-boats/bolger-micro-trailer-sailer-sailboat-/1099150587Price: $7,500.00
On 19 Feb 2016 11:47 PM, "rameses32@... [bolger]" <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Hello, my name is Charley, I live just outside of Port MacQuarie, Australia. I recently fell in love with the Micro, it ticks all the boxes for me, inexpensive to build (as far as sailboats are concerned), easy to sail, selfritious , can sleep two overnight with relative comfort, sails Upright (doesn't heal over like other sailboats, important feature if I ever want the wife to go sailing) and finally, and perhaps this is in the eye of the beholder, but I think the Micro is a beautiful boat, I was smitten as soon as I seen a photo of one in Gavin Atkins book, Ultrasimple Boatbuilding.
Anyway, enough of my opinions, on with the facts, the is a local timber merchant selling tons of airdryed timber, white beach, red cedar, Oregon, hoop pine, just to name a few. Can anyone tell me how much I would need to build a micro? He has Oregon in 1x12, hoop, cedar and beech in 1x10, as well as other thicker sizes.
Any help would be greatly appreciated as he is selling out fast.
I know you probably want to build one, but it would be easier and probably cheaper to bargain this one for sale in Victoria down.
Bolger Micro Trailer Sailer (sailboat),
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/swan-hill/sail-boats/bolger-micro-trailer-sailer-sailboat-/1099150587
Price: $7,500.00
On 19 Feb 2016 11:47 PM, "rameses32@...[bolger]" <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:Hello, my name is Charley, I live just outside of Port MacQuarie, Australia. I recently fell in love with the Micro, it ticks all the boxes for me, inexpensive to build (as far as sailboats are concerned), easy to sail, selfritious , can sleep two overnight with relative comfort, sails Upright (doesn't heal over like other sailboats, important feature if I ever want the wife to go sailing) and finally, and perhaps this is in the eye of the beholder, but I think the Micro is a beautiful boat, I was smitten as soon as I seen a photo of one in Gavin Atkins book, Ultrasimple Boatbuilding.
Anyway, enough of my opinions, on with the facts, the is a local timber merchant selling tons of airdryed timber, white beach, red cedar, Oregon, hoop pine, just to name a few. Can anyone tell me how much I would need to build a micro? He has Oregon in 1x12, hoop, cedar and beech in 1x10, as well as other thicker sizes.
Any help would be greatly appreciated as he is selling out fast.
How is your lumber-dealerās stock on that ?
The full 11-sheet set of MICRO plans are US $250.- sent rolled in a tube to build one boat.
Add perhaps $15.- for postage for the 10,000 miles ārideā to Australia.
What are the tides like on the Hastings River ?
Susanne Altenburger, Phil Bolger & Friends
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Hello, my name is Charley, I live just outside of Port MacQuarie, Australia. I recently fell in love with the Micro, it ticks all the boxes for me, inexpensive to build (as far as sailboats are concerned), easy to sail, selfritious , can sleep two overnight with relative comfort, sails Upright (doesn't heal over like other sailboats, important feature if I ever want the wife to go sailing) and finally, and perhaps this is in the eye of the beholder, but I think the Micro is a beautiful boat, I was smitten as soon as I seen a photo of one in Gavin Atkins book, Ultrasimple Boatbuilding.
Anyway, enough of my opinions, on with the facts, the is a local timber merchant selling tons of airdryed timber, white beach, red cedar, Oregon, hoop pine, just to name a few. Can anyone tell me how much I would need to build a micro? He has Oregon in 1x12, hoop, cedar and beech in 1x10, as well as other thicker sizes.
Any help would be greatly appreciated as he is selling out fast.
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On Feb 19, 2016, at 7:47 AM,rameses32@...[bolger] <bolger@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hello, my name is Charley, I live just outside of Port MacQuarie, Australia. I recently fell in love with the Micro, it ticks all the boxes for me, inexpensive to build (as far as sailboats are concerned), easy to sail, selfritious , can sleep two overnight with relative comfort, sails Upright (doesn't heal over like other sailboats, important feature if I ever want the wife to go sailing) and finally, and perhaps this is in the eye of the beholder, but I think the Micro is a beautiful boat, I was smitten as soon as I seen a photo of one in Gavin Atkins book, Ultrasimple Boatbuilding.
Anyway, enough of my opinions, on with the facts, the is a local timber merchant selling tons of airdryed timber, white beach, red cedar, Oregon, hoop pine, just to name a few. Can anyone tell me how much I would need to build a micro? He has Oregon in 1x12, hoop, cedar and beech in 1x10, as well as other thicker sizes.
Any help would be greatly appreciated as he is selling out fast.
Hello, my name is Charley, I live just outside of Port MacQuarie, Australia. I recently fell in love with the Micro, it ticks all the boxes for me, inexpensive to build (as far as sailboats are concerned), easy to sail, selfritious , can sleep two overnight with relative comfort, sails Upright (doesn't heal over like other sailboats, important feature if I ever want the wife to go sailing) and finally, and perhaps this is in the eye of the beholder, but I think the Micro is a beautiful boat, I was smitten as soon as I seen a photo of one in Gavin Atkins book, Ultrasimple Boatbuilding.
Anyway, enough of my opinions, on with the facts, the is a local timber merchant selling tons of airdryed timber, white beach, red cedar, Oregon, hoop pine, just to name a few. Can anyone tell me how much I would need to build a micro? He has Oregon in 1x12, hoop, cedar and beech in 1x10, as well as other thicker sizes.
Any help would be greatly appreciated as he is selling out fast.