Re: [bolger] RE: other sustainable boat-design ideas/ 50%-sentiments on the 'Highest Levels'
C.Ruzer
these appear inaccessible from outside
Australia.
However, looking at your Fleet recently, no particular carbon-sensitivity/21st-century ‘sustainable’ types appear visible.
Only one guy in Tasmania has co-authored a meta-analytical piece with a Canadian about known numbers in global fisheries fuel-consumption.
Fleetwise, things may be as bad there as here and in Europe...
UN-FAO set the tragic example by not discussing the need for ‘Sustainable’ Fleets in their ‘Code of Conduct for Responsible Fisheries’:http://www.fao.org/3/a-v9878e.pdf
They do not speak of sustainable fisheries either.
However, looking at your Fleet recently, no particular carbon-sensitivity/21st-century ‘sustainable’ types appear visible.
Only one guy in Tasmania has co-authored a meta-analytical piece with a Canadian about known numbers in global fisheries fuel-consumption.
Fleetwise, things may be as bad there as here and in Europe...
UN-FAO set the tragic example by not discussing the need for ‘Sustainable’ Fleets in their ‘Code of Conduct for Responsible Fisheries’:http://www.fao.org/3/a-v9878e.pdf
They do not speak of sustainable fisheries either.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Sent:Friday, March 17, 2017 11:31 AM
Subject:Re: [bolger] RE: other sustainable boat-design ideas/
50%-sentiments on the 'Highest Levels'
> And now more on the topic from yet another
angle,
> And now more on the topic from yet another angle,
> And now more on the topic from yet another angle...
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And now more on the topic from yet another angle...
...Since
Length is not size - displacement would be, Tonnage is ever so elusive, and HP
can at best be established by actual engine-testing,
So, here's to our 45% eco-warriors...”
And now more on the topic from yet another angle, courtesy ofhttp://www.seafoodsource.com/news/environment-sustainability/msc-achieves-gssi-recognition?utm_source=informz&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_content=newsletter
One perspective on how a few folks get to de facto ruin even America’s Oldest Fishing-Port:
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One perspective on how a few folks get to de facto ruin even America’s Oldest Fishing-Port:
”
As you study both organizations, you'll find shared
assumptions.
Neither of the two believe that a 'green'/Low-/Least-Carbon
Fishing-Fleet as the highest expression of 'Sustainability' should be part of
any 'Assessment' criteria in this industry for its mid-term survival so
unavoidably dependent upon finding one way or the other a way to bring into
alignment Resource-Ecology with Fleet-Economics. Ambitions towards such a
Fleet won't be found anywhere in their analytics or metrics.
Only 'Fish' gets assessed. Not the Fleet that is inherently
necessary to get the fish !?
Weird thinking. Any kid in school would not go far with a
50%-approach, since even on a good day you won't readily score 100% on your
ambitions, leaving you with MSC/GSSI ("feel-the-love...") impressing each other
with minutely-defined and 'chartered' scientific assessment-ambitions to never
equal better than somewhere in the 40%-48%; in 99+% of schools, not enough for a
passing grade for any kid...
This ends up being a bit like being traumatically-excited over the
perfectly traceable, shaped, and eatable Banana, with the team of tasters
however not having in any interest in
- whether the banana was grown in a de facto utopian setting of
fertile/make-that verdant lands, surrounding organically-raised plantings,
tended to by folks certain of living in paradisiacal settings, pursuing utter
personal fulfillment without any long-term damage to soil, water, air, or their
own gene-pool,
or
- whether it came off a nasty prison-industrial mono-culture farm,
ruining soil, water, air, people and eventually the chance to grow more bananas
due to the underlying mismatch between this production-model and any definition
of sustainability.
Following their own densely-defined metrics MSC and GSSI would not
worry a bit about how that fruit was actually produced as they in unison admired
their 'perfect banana'. They might quote gene-tests... for the
banana.
One explanation for the persistent absence of any focus upon the actual
Fleet- and Shore-side-Infrastructure at NMFS/NOAA, MSC, GSSI, just about all
ENGOs messing around in Fisheries share IS this 50%-is-good-enough
assumptions-set. As an example, here one explanation for the MSC/GSSI
mutual admiration:
As part of GSSI’s Fisheries Expert Working Group, we'd find one Mr.
Graeme Parkes of MRAG-America.MRAG is owned by Andrew A.
Rosenberg. Here from his bio on MRAGAmericas.com:
“From 1998-2000, Dr. Rosenberg served as the Deputy Director of NOAA’s
National Marine FisheriesService, where he dealt with policy decisions
on science and resource management issues nationwide as well as the
administration of the agency. He was also a principle agency spokesperson before
Congress, the public and technical audiences. Before becoming NMFS DeputyDirector, Dr. Rosenberg was the NMFS Northeast Regional Administrator,where he negotiated and implemented the recovery program for New
England and
mid-Atlantic fisheries, worked to develop and implement marine mammal
recoveryprograms and endangered species protections throughout the
northeast.” https://www.mragamericas.com/about/our-team/#Andrew-Rosenberg
Why would this be of interest to GSSI or MSC ?
Andy Rosenberg is the lead-author of the 1994 NMFS New England
fishing-regulations that ended upfreezing e.g. the New England
Ground-Fish Fleet in an ecological and economical status of the 80s by defining
its permitting-parameters by Length, 'Tonnage' (?) and Horsepower. Since
Length is not size - displacement would be, Tonnage is ever so elusive, and HP
can at best be established by actual engine-testing, locking out any chance to
return to older longer-for-the-beam hull-geometries all the up to the old
SubChaser-based offshore-draggers of 7:1 L/B ratio, his 1994 regional regs for
New England are primarily responsible for this Fleet to not be allowed to pursue
by design, by construction, and thus by daily and likely life-long operational
parameters a LOW-, if not LEAST-CARBON business-model.
As a high-flying marine-biologist Rosenberg deemed it appropriate that
he should just as well be able to formulate fishing-vessel technical
parameters... Since he got key-metrics spectacularly wrong, he carries the
prime responsibility for the tragic stagnation in the New England Fleet since
1994.
And in light of the fact that he then felt compelled to take his
‘regulatory model’ nationally by 1999, he would appear to de facto and de jure
be responsible for much of the lack of any Low/Least-Carbon Fleet-developments
in the US.
How would his right-hand man Graeme Parkes then be an effective
Low/Least-Carbon thinker on GSSI’s Fisheries EWG ?
In the context of the given geometries involved, it may well be folks
likeMRAGAmerica’s Parkes that (so far) have kept GSSI from recognizing
formally and
programmatically that a 100-% approach to Fisheries Sustainability mustactually included the other 50% of the agenda - the Fleet's physical
structure and geometries and
thus operational parameters.
As one more angle in this very public non-speculative geometry,
Rosenberg’s and Parkes’ primary personal income would seem to depend upon the
MRAG observer-program they sell to NOAA/NMFS. After imposing a system-wide
Innovation-Prohibition upon the Fleet, Rosenberg et. al. now appear to profit by
‘services’ that burden the industry further... On Canada's West-Coat cameras
have been used since the early 2000s.
However, to this day no word from ex-NMFS Regional Administrator New
England Andrew A. Rosenberg on his tragic errors crafting 'new rules'. On
MRAG's site though he will offer his fine treatise on "Best Practices in US
Fisheries Management"...
So, here's to our 45% eco-warriors...”
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Sent:Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:43 AM
Subject:Re: [bolger] RE: other sustainable boat-design
ideas
And yet, here and indeed across New England, there is growing sensitivity
and net gains that contiguous stretches of woodlands matter, including in their
Carbon-Sequestration capacities.
Here at PB&F we’ve gone Low-Carbon in our structuring of housing, office-ops, travel, etc. a long time back, with more in-house ambitions yet ahead on the agenda.
Today Gloucester is more wooded than it was when Phil was born nearly 90 years ago.
A learning-process that is still slow, since resisted by so many, including astonishing amounts of (so-called) ‘conservatives’ hedonistically gorging on limited if not finite resources...
Here at PB&F we’ve gone Low-Carbon in our structuring of housing, office-ops, travel, etc. a long time back, with more in-house ambitions yet ahead on the agenda.
Today Gloucester is more wooded than it was when Phil was born nearly 90 years ago.
A learning-process that is still slow, since resisted by so many, including astonishing amounts of (so-called) ‘conservatives’ hedonistically gorging on limited if not finite resources...
Lead by example, nag, and nag more, push, shove, cajole, embarrass, holler,
keep on reaching for more expressions of ‘sustainability’.
The most important task on the table.
The most important task on the table.
Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
Sent:Wednesday, March 15, 2017 11:09 AM
Subject:Re: [bolger] RE: other sustainable boat-design
ideas
Relatively few trees, back home or elsewhere, shall survive this human caused extinction event or even this century.
They cleared the forests of England to build a navy and merchant navy. It didn't stop there. It didn't start there. In the last few hundred years it has ramped up massively.
Humans have busily cleared the forests of Earth and altered the climate for around 12000 years. Massive clearing first occurred on all continents with firestick farming, then slash and burn, and later agricultural innovations. The forests, especially tropical forests, are in massive retreat today. They're being clear felled for what wood remains and to make way for agriculture. Forests all over are also rapidly succumbing to agw induced effects such as drought and rampant wild fires. Humans, forest destruction, later fossil combustion powered industrial capitalism, climate, and an ultimate massive extinction event make for tragic links.
http://modernfarmer.com/2016/02/early-farmers-climate-change/
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/wol1/doi/10.1002/2015RG000503/abstract
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_anthropocene
https://phys.org/news/2011-10-team-european-ice-age-due.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3251087/
https://robertscribbler.com/
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Daring claim to state that this boat be the first to circumnavigate without
Diesel.
Sailing without fossil-fuel is an old story..., i.e. pretty much everything before the last 200-years of age of coal, gasoline, naphtha, diesel, but of course not wood, perfectly good for external combustion – while remaining energy-neutral, as those trees back home keep on growing.
Sailing without fossil-fuel is an old story..., i.e. pretty much everything before the last 200-years of age of coal, gasoline, naphtha, diesel, but of course not wood, perfectly good for external combustion – while remaining energy-neutral, as those trees back home keep on growing.