[bolger] Re: LSME Main and Jib
>> You might take a look at the two sided Fiberglass Outdoor CarpetI got the mail taped and grommetted and it looks great, not perfect,
>Tape we used for the edges of the Polytarp sails. I got mine at Home
>Depot. It goes on easy and I was impressed with how tuff it is. We
>thought it might gum up the needle but it worked fine.
but really nice for a gimme sail and $20 of tape and grommets. I'll
have to scare up a sewing machine to finish it off.
On to the jib tomorrow (already cut,) then I'll see if any of my
other sails look like they want to be a forsail. Gonna make a quick
and dirty rudder and daggerboard so I can get this thing in the water.
Photos soon.
YIBB,
David
CRUMBLING EMPIRE PRODUCTIONS
134 W.26th St. 12th Floor
New York, NY 10001
(212) 247-0296
David,
You can finish the edges of your sai in one of two ways. The first
is the tabling, simply folding the sail's edges over, then over again
(to cover the raw fabric edge), then stitching it down. You put a
heavy crease at the folds by rubbing your scissors (or some other
smooth tool) along the fold. Run a light braided Dacron line up the
leech, and stitch it down at the peak. Tension it if it flogs in a
breeze. You should run a Dacron rope, say 1/4", up the luff, and
along the foot and head. Tension the rope more than the cloth (tack
one end of the rope and sail down; pull the rope tight while forcing
the cloth loose along the rope; 1" to 1 1/2" shold do it). Then seize
the rope to the sail. This will assure that the rope takes all the
strain, not the cloth. Force the rope all the way to the folds, and
pound the grommet in so the edge holds the rope against the fold.
The problem you have is that you've already cut the sail. Tabling
the edges will make the sails smaller by the amount of the tabling.
Not a big deal, you won't lose much area.
The other way to do thid jop is to use folded Dacron tape. You
might be able to buy some from a local sailmaker. You can definitely
get it from Sailrite. Use 3-5 oz. tape on the leeches, and 8-9 oz. on
the luffs. The leech tape should be fairly narrow, say 1 1/2" when
folded. The luff tape sould be about 4" folded. Use the rope as
described, above.
You can staple the tabling or tapes until you get it sewn down, or
use seamstick tape.
If you finish your sails this way, they will last indefinitely.
The seatbelt webbing is a good idea, but if it's nylon, it'll be
stretchy. Try to find Dacron (polyester) webbing.
Have you seen "The Sailmaker's Apprentice"? It shows how to do all
this in great detail. I think it's the best book on sailmaking I've
ever seen. It's worth adding to your library, and definitely worth
borrowing. Libraries usually have a copy or two of other sailmaking
books, usually Jeremy Howard Williams' books.
Using old sails to make new ones works really well. I've done it
many times. It's a cheap way to get a good, long lasting sail.
Good luck with you project!
Take care,
Pete Reynolds
You can finish the edges of your sai in one of two ways. The first
is the tabling, simply folding the sail's edges over, then over again
(to cover the raw fabric edge), then stitching it down. You put a
heavy crease at the folds by rubbing your scissors (or some other
smooth tool) along the fold. Run a light braided Dacron line up the
leech, and stitch it down at the peak. Tension it if it flogs in a
breeze. You should run a Dacron rope, say 1/4", up the luff, and
along the foot and head. Tension the rope more than the cloth (tack
one end of the rope and sail down; pull the rope tight while forcing
the cloth loose along the rope; 1" to 1 1/2" shold do it). Then seize
the rope to the sail. This will assure that the rope takes all the
strain, not the cloth. Force the rope all the way to the folds, and
pound the grommet in so the edge holds the rope against the fold.
The problem you have is that you've already cut the sail. Tabling
the edges will make the sails smaller by the amount of the tabling.
Not a big deal, you won't lose much area.
The other way to do thid jop is to use folded Dacron tape. You
might be able to buy some from a local sailmaker. You can definitely
get it from Sailrite. Use 3-5 oz. tape on the leeches, and 8-9 oz. on
the luffs. The leech tape should be fairly narrow, say 1 1/2" when
folded. The luff tape sould be about 4" folded. Use the rope as
described, above.
You can staple the tabling or tapes until you get it sewn down, or
use seamstick tape.
If you finish your sails this way, they will last indefinitely.
The seatbelt webbing is a good idea, but if it's nylon, it'll be
stretchy. Try to find Dacron (polyester) webbing.
Have you seen "The Sailmaker's Apprentice"? It shows how to do all
this in great detail. I think it's the best book on sailmaking I've
ever seen. It's worth adding to your library, and definitely worth
borrowing. Libraries usually have a copy or two of other sailmaking
books, usually Jeremy Howard Williams' books.
Using old sails to make new ones works really well. I've done it
many times. It's a cheap way to get a good, long lasting sail.
Good luck with you project!
Take care,
Pete Reynolds
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
> FBBB --
>
> Well I did it! I took a cast-off drifter from a 30 foot sloop and
> turned it into the main and jib for the Light Scooner Margaret
Ellen.
>
> We cut the head of the sail for the jib, not quite the right
> dimensions, but close enough.
>
> For the main, we used the seam from the bottom of the last as the
> luff and worked from there. Again, not perfect, but pretty good for
a
> free sail and 30 minutes of measuring and cutting.
>
> What's next is figuring out how to finish the edges so they'll take
> grommets nicely. I was thinking sewing/glueing some seat-belt tape
> into the edges might work nicely. Any other thoughts would be
> appreciated.
>
> We stapled the main onto the boom and gaff and raised it just to
get
> an idea how we were doing. It looked great -- I'll post photos
> tomorrow.
>
> YIBB,
>
> David
>
> CRUMBLING EMPIRE PRODUCTIONS
> 134 W.26th St. 12th Floor
> New York, NY 10001
> (212) 247-0296
---
Depot. It goes on easy and I was impressed with how tuff it is. We
thought it might gum up the needle but it worked fine.
Leand
> What's next is figuring out how to finish the edges so they'll takeTape we used for the edges of the Polytarp sails. I got mine at Home
> grommets nicely. I was thinking sewing/glueing some seat-belt tape
> into the edges might work nicely. Any other thoughts would be
> appreciated.
>
> You might take a look at the two sided Fiberglass Outdoor Carpet
Depot. It goes on easy and I was impressed with how tuff it is. We
thought it might gum up the needle but it worked fine.
Leand
FBBB --
Well I did it! I took a cast-off drifter from a 30 foot sloop and
turned it into the main and jib for the Light Scooner Margaret Ellen.
We cut the head of the sail for the jib, not quite the right
dimensions, but close enough.
For the main, we used the seam from the bottom of the last as the
luff and worked from there. Again, not perfect, but pretty good for a
free sail and 30 minutes of measuring and cutting.
What's next is figuring out how to finish the edges so they'll take
grommets nicely. I was thinking sewing/glueing some seat-belt tape
into the edges might work nicely. Any other thoughts would be
appreciated.
We stapled the main onto the boom and gaff and raised it just to get
an idea how we were doing. It looked great -- I'll post photos
tomorrow.
YIBB,
David
CRUMBLING EMPIRE PRODUCTIONS
134 W.26th St. 12th Floor
New York, NY 10001
(212) 247-0296
Well I did it! I took a cast-off drifter from a 30 foot sloop and
turned it into the main and jib for the Light Scooner Margaret Ellen.
We cut the head of the sail for the jib, not quite the right
dimensions, but close enough.
For the main, we used the seam from the bottom of the last as the
luff and worked from there. Again, not perfect, but pretty good for a
free sail and 30 minutes of measuring and cutting.
What's next is figuring out how to finish the edges so they'll take
grommets nicely. I was thinking sewing/glueing some seat-belt tape
into the edges might work nicely. Any other thoughts would be
appreciated.
We stapled the main onto the boom and gaff and raised it just to get
an idea how we were doing. It looked great -- I'll post photos
tomorrow.
YIBB,
David
CRUMBLING EMPIRE PRODUCTIONS
134 W.26th St. 12th Floor
New York, NY 10001
(212) 247-0296