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That's definitely a heavy radius. So much for using a router.

 
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well, according to the Dovekie in my driveway, looks like approx. 6" radius, or part of a 12" circle. I also happen to have an Oday 22 in the yard, and it looks like a slightly tighter radius, maybe a 5" radius or 10" diam. circle.
I don't know, you better read up on it.

A couple of general observations…

 

At displacement speeds, a hull shape that goes through the water with the least turbulence will have the least drag. Thus, a spindle shaped hull with semi-circular cross sections has minimal drag. But (always comes the but!) such hulls have minimal initial and reserve stability and hulls of this type are generally found on racing shells and kayaks.

 

A boat with a flat transom will generate a lot of turbulence and drag at displacement speeds if the transom is immersed in the water. This is why most rowing boats have either a very narrow transom (dories) or a heart shaped transom (producing a double ended boat at the design waterline). A flat bottomed boat can work with the stem a little out of the water or immersed in the water (and a number of Atkins boats are designed to have the stem in the water). However, any flat bottomed boat with a transom needs to keep the transom out of the water or it will generate a lot of turbulence and a case of the slows.

 

Sail boats and boats which carry loads complicate design considerations-- sail boats because they must have enough stability to resist the heeling forces exerted by the sails and because they must operate at varying angles of heel.  A flat bottomed boat with a hard shine will generate some turbulence/drag along the chine as water moves from an area of high pressure on the bottom to lower pressure along the chines. Bolger theorized that if the curve of the side matched the curve of the bottom, turbulence would be reduced and he designed many successful boats based on this theory. He also accepted that if the chine could be radiused (as it is on Dovekies. O’Day 22’s, and nonpareil sharpies), turbulence along the chine would be greatly reduced and the need to match bottom and side curve s would also be reduced.

 

When you factor in loads, you need to figure out a way to increase displacement while keeping the transom out of the water and this is normally accomplished on flat bottom boats with rocker.

 

When you start talking about planeing boats or very light displacement boats (to include multi-hulls) the world changes and many other design choices enter the picture.

 

JohnT

 

 

 

 

 


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"goes best" according to what?  Bolger as well as other sharpie designers have designed hulls round or straight, bows and sterns above or below waterlines and all can work well as long as you keep sharpies light, with at least 4-1 beam-length ratios, and low topsides.

On Friday, April 18, 2014 8:29 AM, earling22 . <dave.irland@...> wrote:

 

Bolger states several times in his writings that a sharpie goes best when the rocker profile matches the plan view ( side curvature). It's not absolutely critical, but the boat sails better on some  point or other (can't remember), probably to windward. Also, as for the dovekie, as pointed out by another poster, heavily radiused chines remove this requirement so you can get away with a dead flat bottom. He first noticed this at an early 1970s boat show when the oday 22 first appeared, which has a bottom that is dead ringer for a dovekie, which bolger declared a breakthrough. As an oday 22 owner, I can attest to the zippy, well balanced qualities of that boat. (I also have a dovekie, but haven't sailed it yet.) I think this is all in that podcast. 

 

Also, I'll just repeat that the cushion or fender under the bow fixes the drumming at anchor just fine. 

 

The skimmer is for sure a great sailing boat, super close winded (with the right sails) and a blast on a reach or a run, especially with the hiking board deployed. The rig needs upgrading vs. the stock drawings (fatter boom, two part spotter lead to cockpit, leeboards tackle, few other things) but all in all, an exemplary sharpie

 

"goes best" according to what?  Bolger as well as other sharpie designers have designed hulls round or straight, bows and sterns above or below waterlines and all can work well as long as you keep sharpies light, with at least 4-1 beam-length ratios, and low topsides.
On Friday, April 18, 2014 8:29 AM, earling22 . <dave.irland@...> wrote:
 
Bolger states several times in his writings that a sharpie goes best when the rocker profile matches the plan view ( side curvature). It's not absolutely critical, but the boat sails better on some  point or other (can't remember), probably to windward. Also, as for the dovekie, as pointed out by another poster, heavily radiused chines remove this requirement so you can get away with a dead flat bottom. He first noticed this at an early 1970s boat show when the oday 22 first appeared, which has a bottom that is dead ringer for a dovekie, which bolger declared a breakthrough. As an oday 22 owner, I can attest to the zippy, well balanced qualities of that boat. (I also have a dovekie, but haven't sailed it yet.) I think this is all in that podcast. 

Also, I'll just repeat that the cushion or fender under the bow fixes the drumming at anchor just fine. 

The skimmer is for sure a great sailing boat, super close winded (with the right sails) and a blast on a reach or a run, especially with the hiking board deployed. The rig needs upgrading vs. the stock drawings (fatter boom, two part spotter lead to cockpit, leeboards tackle, few other things) but all in all, an exemplary sharpie


Heavily radiused = ? inches. 2" radius?

 
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Bolger states several times in his writings that a sharpie goes best when the rocker profile matches the plan view ( side curvature). It's not absolutely critical, but the boat sails better on some  point or other (can't remember), probably to windward. Also, as for the dovekie, as pointed out by another poster, heavily radiused chines remove this requirement so you can get away with a dead flat bottom. He first noticed this at an early 1970s boat show when the oday 22 first appeared, which has a bottom that is dead ringer for a dovekie, which bolger declared a breakthrough. As an oday 22 owner, I can attest to the zippy, well balanced qualities of that boat. (I also have a dovekie, but haven't sailed it yet.) I think this is all in that podcast.

Also, I'll just repeat that the cushion or fender under the bow fixes the drumming at anchor just fine.

The skimmer is for sure a great sailing boat, super close winded (with the right sails) and a blast on a reach or a run, especially with the hiking board deployed. The rig needs upgrading vs. the stock drawings (fatter boom, two part spotter lead to cockpit, leeboards tackle, few other things) but all in all, an exemplary sharpie
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Congratulations Peter. It is very distinguished looking at dock. Any time you need advice or help on the Upper St. Lawrence I am docked at Long Sault Marina. I am pleased to have seen it in construction and await seeing it in action. Your workmanship is second to none and have served the master well. Any name yet? Best wishes Paul McLellan Happy Adventure.

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> Wow! Peter super news, she looks gorgeous, what a great accomplishment!
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Fabulous news. She looks great!

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> Thank you John! I cannot begin to describe how good it feels to be both finished with the building of her and now begining to live the dream I've had for so long.It's a wee bit over-whelming and sweeter than honey!
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Wow! Peter super news, she looks gorgeous, what a great accomplishment!
Fantastic. Charles Rouse

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I'm still hanging out on WBF waiting for certification.Boats a beauty.It's unlike any other boat every built here or on WBF.Way to be different Peter.

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> Really glad to see her launched! You used to post so often during the early years of building (and beer drinking), then kind of stopped; so I had wondered what was going on :) We all want photos of your first cruise too!
> Bob



Yes, it is true Bob,things "kind of stopped"......and that was due to some craziness which occured here:

http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?80153-Just-fore-the-fun-of-it-%29


Lots of pictures and yapping of the build process happened there.



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> Cheers!
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> Peter
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> Congratulations, Peter! It's been a long time coming. I'll bet it feels
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Thank you John! I cannot begin to describe how good it feels to be both finished with the building of her and now begining to live the dream I've had for so long.It's a wee bit over-whelming and sweeter than honey!

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On 04/19/2011 09:38 AM, Douglas Pollard wrote:
 

My father used  to say about religion.  "In the beginning there was chaos, and God made the world and it has been chaotic ever since.                Doug

On 04/19/2011 08:56 AM, Walter wrote:

 



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Sorry guys, wrong group wrong conversation. Clicked the wrong e-mail and replied:-[             Doug
My father used  to say about religion.  "In the beginning there was chaos, and God made the world and it has been chaotic ever since.                Doug

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> some pictures of the 28' Bolger designed Lobster Boat

Although PCB is best know among amateurs for his inventiveness with small sailboats, I always thought he was at his best with powerboats for professional construction. Seeing this boat is looking at a capsule of New England history.
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Lovely boat.Very nice indeed.!!!
Hello everyone!
 
I haven't posted for a while..but I thought you might like to see some pictures of the 28' Bolger designed Lobster Boat that my father built and launched in March 2009. Go to the files section in the Bolger group and you'll find a folder called 28' Bolger Lobsterboat with quite a few pictures in it.
 
Just a note....My father built this boat from the complete set of plans published in Harold Payson's book; "Boat Modelling The Easy Way....A scratch Builder's Guide."
 
Dad is currently building a Harry Bryan designed 21' "Handy Billy" launch for myMe,my partner and our 3 young children!

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Thanks Nels. The motor is a 9.9 Yamaha high thrust. It is amazing and wonderful for this boat. Sometimes at the locks people think it is an electric it is so quiet. The larger prop makes for great braking also. I have been told that yamaha is a true high thrust with the appropriate gearing changes and not just the larger prop.
Wow what a great photo!

As a more mundane aside - what make of motor are you using and how do
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Happy New Year everyone.

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Very cool guide

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> > Uploaded by : sharpie3444 <sharpie3444@y...>
>
>
>
> Oh no........not another builder who not only has an indoor
shop,but
> what appears to be a ton of reading material for taking ones
leisure
> in the moaning chair :-)
> Seriously David, it is not nice to rub it in like that ;-
).........on
> the other hand,she does look very good and with summer slowly
getting
> closer you must be dying to launch her!
> Do you intend on covering the "slot" with canvas or installing a
more
> rigid and lockable companionway hatch?
>
> Thanks for posting some pictures and best of luck with her
completion!
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan

Poly tarp over the slot top this summer / maybe a removable hard top
and a stove before next winter, The water don't freeze down here (
West Arkansas ) but the people do.

Just finishing the sails. Have the spars, ballast, glassing and a
small amount of wood work left. Hope to be sailing by June.

David
> Uploaded by : sharpie3444 <sharpie3444@y...>



Oh no........not another builder who not only has an indoor shop,but
what appears to be a ton of reading material for taking ones leisure
in the moaning chair :-)
Seriously David, it is not nice to rub it in like that ;-).........on
the other hand,she does look very good and with summer slowly getting
closer you must be dying to launch her!
Do you intend on covering the "slot" with canvas or installing a more
rigid and lockable companionway hatch?

Thanks for posting some pictures and best of luck with her completion!


Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...> wrote:
> On Monday 30 December 2002 12:11 am, you wrote:
> I was surprised to find this upload breaking into our files. This
is
> a moderated forum,and members are vetted. I suspect that our
moderator is on
> a well deserved Christmas break. I also suspect that simplygirls
2002 will
> not be a member vey much longer.
>
>
>
> HJ
>
And there I was thinking all along that all our file space had
been taken up by the really good stuff(boats!).I hope that Gregg
really boots them in the nookies with some evil scrotum chomping chip
frying "return message".Yeah! that'll learn 'em ta mess with us nuts!
Go gittem Gregg!!!!
ARRRRgggg!!!!
Epoxy Pete
On Monday 30 December 2002 12:11 am, you wrote:
Besides the dissapointment of finding out that Erica wasn't a shapely Norse
double ender, but what appears to be a rather bluff in the bows Russian
design, I was surprised to find this upload breaking into our files. This is
a moderated forum,and members are vetted. I suspect that our moderator is on
a well deserved Christmas break. I also suspect that simplygirls 2002 will
not be a member vey much longer.

I am a member of several other Yahoo groups, and this doesn't bode well at
all.

HJ

The extent of this illness just occured to me. When I as a healthy
> male, realized I was in fact dissapointed to find the picture of a
> beautiful woman instead of a boat name "Erica".
>
> My God what has happened to me.
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com,bolger@yahoogroups.comwrote:
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The extent of this illness just occured to me. When I as a healthy
male, realized I was in fact dissapointed to find the picture of a
beautiful woman instead of a boat name "Erica".

My God what has happened to me.






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>
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The files section of this group is over full, so you may want to post it in
the photos section instead. Else go to Bolger2.

(is this one of my old shots?)

JB


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These photos are all prior to increased ballast and
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We've yet to put the building photos up.

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pictures!!!Simply beautiful!!
Sincerely,
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to see such an inspiring picture,in the dead of winter,on the shores
of the St.Lawrence.............





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A truly wonderful picture!

Michael Surface


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Even without doing the conversions to miles per hour and degrees fahrenheit
I'd say you're already doing more penance that you deserve :).

Larry
in Talent, Oregon where my wife insists that I should be thinking of skiing
instead of sailing.

<snip> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan,contemplating other options for a suitable
> penance,while the wind howls at 45km/hour in -13Celsius
> temperatures,on the banks of the St.Lawrence.......
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In a message dated 12/23/2000 7:<BR34:<BR06 AM
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Boy do you ever look ridiculous, tsunatra, rowing that flowerbox!!!

I bet it was such fun. It is amazing what pleasure grown men can get from
such silly things. :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Thanks for the pic. Have you ever looked at Bob Taylor's Skimmer?
<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/rtaylor137/stefspg.html">stefpage</A> down
at the bottom

This page: <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/rtaylor137/bobspg.html">Bobspage
</A> shows his Piragua, one of about 5 he's built.

Cheers and Merry Christmas/Don Carron
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Roger,
Thanks!To reply to some of your questions;the boomkin simply
slides through a square hole cut into a plywood knee secured to the
bulkhead.A pin is then inserted just aft of the knee into the boomkin
to prevent it from sliding back into the boat.The fid is simply a
plank,laid athwartships immediately aft of the mast and dropped into
a set of notches which must be cut in the beefed up section of the
sheer clamp at that point.If you click on the picture titled HEAD,you
will get a clear idea of what I am attempting to describe.
Until I have done suitable penance,like writing 1000 times"I will
not attempt to upload pictures to the Bolger group until I learn how
to do it right",no further pictures will be posted.Sorry.
Regarding the interior;it is not strip-planked.Instead,I
installed a number of vertical cleets on the inside of the hull and
proceeded to lay a 1/4" X 1 3/4" clear pine ceiling to knock off some
of the harshness of the bare plywood panel.
You're more then welcome to come up to Montreal if all that cold
is starting to get to you down in Texas!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,contemplating other options for a suitable
penance,while the wind howls at 45km/hour in -13Celsius
temperatures,on the banks of the St.Lawrence.......



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> What a nice boat!!!
> I was wondering, did you strip plank the "inside" of your Micro?
Also, I am getting ready to build my Micro and while looking at the
plans, I found it difficult to understand how the boomkin attaches to
the bulkhead inside the boat. Would you happen to have a picture?
> Come to think of it, I don't understand the "fid" at the main mast
partners either. It would be nice to see a micro in real life. I e-
mailed CSB to find out if their was a Micro in the Dallas/Ft.Worth
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What a nice boat!!!
I was wondering, did you strip plank the "inside" of your Micro? Also, I am getting ready to build my Micro and while looking at the plans, I found it difficult to understand how the boomkin attaches to the bulkhead inside the boat. Would you happen to have a picture?
Come to think of it, I don't understand the "fid" at the main mast partners either. It would be nice to see a micro in real life. I e-mailed CSB to find out if their was a Micro in the Dallas/Ft.Worth area but got no reply. It's sad, CSB does'nt seem to eager to answer questions or offer much help.
Thanks in advance,
Roger Peterson
45 degrees and freezing to death in Ft.Worth TX
Nice set of pictures, Peter. She's quite lovely. The boat is is pretty nice,
too. ;-)

JB in snowy, icy Kennesaw, GA



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The LS depends a lot on crew weight to hold it up, so unless you can
get together a crew of six or eight stout fellows (at least) every
time it breezes up, you might want some ballast. How about a 1" or
so thick steel plate forming a shoe along the center of the bottom?
Scrap steel is pretty cheap, bulletproof (literally) for grouding,
and good ballast. Full length would be about 5000# if it were 12"
wide. OTOH, an unballasted version with enough crew would sure be a
blast, if impractical. Sort of like a schooner-rigged A-scow.


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> >> Description : Dreaming of a big sharpie!
> >
> >Not too different from Reuel Parker's Terrapin!
> >
>
> Strongly influence by Parker's design, but I think using the LS as
a
> spring board give at least as pretty a hull with less figger'in out.
Err... make that 6.5 tons. I shouldn't do any arithmetic before coffee.

Parker doesn't have specs for his Terrapin 44 online, but he does
have the 34' on his site. She comes in at just under 14,000 pounds.
She's also a much fuller boat, so I think the below are within an
order of magnitute.

YIBB,

David



>Based on the weight of the LSME, I've been roughing the weight as follow:
>
>LS^2 hull #4000
>
>Interior joinery and appointments #2000
>
>Deckhouses #1000
>
>Spars, Sails, etc #2000
>
>Ballast #4000
>
>TOTAL 7.5 Tons
>
>These figures are not arbitrary, but they are total uneducated. I
>wonder how these compare with figures for the Terrapin 44.
>
>RE:Deckhouse rollover factor.
>
>Again, by eyeball only, I don't think they'd be much of a factor in
>tipping the boat over. OTH, if she did get knocked down, I think they
>could only help to keep her from going any further once they hit the
>water.
>
>Strictly speaking out of my ass, I'm much more concerned about the
>rigging's effect on stability. You don't have to tip the LSME very
>far before the weight of her spars, sails, and rigging starts to take
>her right over.
>
>YIBB,
>
>David
>
>
>
>
>>Cabins look nice. How much will they increase the
>>weight load above the waterline for roolover factors?
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Cabins look nice. How much will they increase the
weight load above the waterline for roolover factors?
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Lion's Paw is a steel, schooner-rigged, leeboard sharpie 38' 9" long.
The hull shape is essentially Black Skimmer. Interior is 4 berths,
about 5' headroom. At least one hull was built; I saw it advertised
for sale 10 or 15 years ago.

Displacement is 15,000 lbs (BIG SHARPIE!). Sail area is 708 ft^2
plus 225 ft^2 in the main staysail (take friends along for the ride).

It looks like a very 'shippy' boat to me, a quality shared by many of
the thin-water boats in Chapelle. I was musing just the other day
about how it would be a great boat to take to the schooner races
after the bank makes a mistake and fills my account to the 'FULL'
mark with someone else's money.

Peter
Current issue? Past issue? Details! Details!


>Bolger has done a design very like the LS squared. Woodenboat
>ran an article about a "shorey" (sharpie dory) PCB designed for
>Mait Edy. Beautiful boat, but Phil's original concept was for a
>sharpie schooner. The article has a profile view.
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> >> Description : Dreaming of a big sharpie!
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> >Not too different from Reuel Parker's Terrapin!

Bolger has done a design very like the LS squared. Woodenboat
ran an article about a "shorey" (sharpie dory) PCB designed for
Mait Edy. Beautiful boat, but Phil's original concept was for a
sharpie schooner. The article has a profile view.

Vance
No, can't say that I am. I'm going to have to see if the Montauk
library can get any of PCB's book on interlibrary loan. In the
meantime, what can you me?



>Speaking of big sharpies, I do assume you are familiar with Lion's
>Paw. See 30 Odd Boats, page 92.
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Speaking of big sharpies, I do assume you are familiar with Lion's
Paw. See 30 Odd Boats, page 92.

PHV
> Description : Dreaming of a big sharpie!

Not too different from Reuel Parker's Terrapin!

Peter
>> Description : Dreaming of a big sharpie!
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>Not too different from Reuel Parker's Terrapin!
>

Strongly influence by Parker's design, but I think using the LS as a
spring board give at least as pretty a hull with less figger'in out.

It's probably silly to carry the fineness of the Light Scooner so far
aft on a 47 foot hull. The Break-down Schooner, as well as the
Terrapin, suggest that a little more fullness in the forward part of
the middle is worthwhile. Still, there's something about those
lines...

I did some quick calculations based on the LSME:

20 sheets of 3/4" ply $500

12 gallons resin $500

fabric, funny powders, etc $500

400 feet of 2x4s $160

12 gallons of porch paint $375

A used genoa for main and jib $200

A used jib for foresail $75

300 feet of 3/4 inch polypro $100

Subtotal $2410

X factor 100%

Grand total $4820

I can think of a lot worse ways to spend 5K


YIBB,

David






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OOPS,

it came in just after I posted.

Sorry, Don
In this photo the boat has just dropped off a plane,
with the crew all up front,
hence the unusual amt of water bunched up under the bow
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Actually, when I first stepped the mast I knocked a few of them down.
You shold have seen the way they danced and crackled.


>Those overhead wires look pretty scary. Hope they're not close.
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Those overhead wires look pretty scary. Hope they're not close.

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Sure is a pretty boat.
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