[bolger] Re: stitch and glue Light Dory
Selway Fisher Design out of england has a design for a rowing dory much
like the gull but it is 14ft and stitch and glue. I built it because I
felt bolger's gull would be too heavy to cartop. I have had it for several
years and rowed it quite a bit. I take it on and off the car by myself,
which makes for more opportunities to get out. The building went easily
and no molds were needed. The ends are closed with flotation so it is
unsinkable. The plans show a small dolly to wheel it to the water which
worked out well. I dont think bolger would approve of this design due to
the shorter length. I seem to remember bolger saying his gull design was
about as short as he would go. My boat rows easily but is not very fast.
Richard Stover
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like the gull but it is 14ft and stitch and glue. I built it because I
felt bolger's gull would be too heavy to cartop. I have had it for several
years and rowed it quite a bit. I take it on and off the car by myself,
which makes for more opportunities to get out. The building went easily
and no molds were needed. The ends are closed with flotation so it is
unsinkable. The plans show a small dolly to wheel it to the water which
worked out well. I dont think bolger would approve of this design due to
the shorter length. I seem to remember bolger saying his gull design was
about as short as he would go. My boat rows easily but is not very fast.
Richard Stover
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> From:millar@...
> To:bolger@...
> Subject: [bolger] Re: stitch and glue Light Dory
> Date: Thursday, December 09, 1999 8:48 PM
>
> Hey Dave Ryan - I'm currently building a S&G Light Dory (Glouster
> Gull), in fact it's built! Just needs paint and rowing hardware (new
> Shaw & Tenney sweeps coming for Christmas). I just used molds 2,4 & 6
> (no ladder frame)bent 1/4" ply side panels around, stitched bow,
> screwed and glued 3/4" transom, then cut and stitched 3/8" bottom to
> side panels. I then removed molds and cut them down to become the seat
> frames and tabbed them in place. The boat goes together REALLY fast
> this way - mine was asembled in one afternoon. After the fillets and
> glass go in the boat really stiffens up and once you get the breasthook
> and rubrails on it's a done deal. My Dory weighs in around 90 lbs,
> looks great, and so far I've got less than $200 into it ( I still need
> oarlocks and good paint) If I can answer any questions for you or help
> in any way you can e-mail me atmillar@.... Good luck with your
> boat, Jake Millar
>
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Hey Dave Ryan - I'm currently building a S&G Light Dory (Glouster
Gull), in fact it's built! Just needs paint and rowing hardware (new
Shaw & Tenney sweeps coming for Christmas). I just used molds 2,4 & 6
(no ladder frame)bent 1/4" ply side panels around, stitched bow,
screwed and glued 3/4" transom, then cut and stitched 3/8" bottom to
side panels. I then removed molds and cut them down to become the seat
frames and tabbed them in place. The boat goes together REALLY fast
this way - mine was asembled in one afternoon. After the fillets and
glass go in the boat really stiffens up and once you get the breasthook
and rubrails on it's a done deal. My Dory weighs in around 90 lbs,
looks great, and so far I've got less than $200 into it ( I still need
oarlocks and good paint) If I can answer any questions for you or help
in any way you can e-mail me atmillar@.... Good luck with your
boat, Jake Millar
Gull), in fact it's built! Just needs paint and rowing hardware (new
Shaw & Tenney sweeps coming for Christmas). I just used molds 2,4 & 6
(no ladder frame)bent 1/4" ply side panels around, stitched bow,
screwed and glued 3/4" transom, then cut and stitched 3/8" bottom to
side panels. I then removed molds and cut them down to become the seat
frames and tabbed them in place. The boat goes together REALLY fast
this way - mine was asembled in one afternoon. After the fillets and
glass go in the boat really stiffens up and once you get the breasthook
and rubrails on it's a done deal. My Dory weighs in around 90 lbs,
looks great, and so far I've got less than $200 into it ( I still need
oarlocks and good paint) If I can answer any questions for you or help
in any way you can e-mail me atmillar@.... Good luck with your
boat, Jake Millar
Hi Chuck, and anyone else who might be interested in this project. The
Light Dory is Fully assembled and all fillets are in. I guess I'm down
to a bit of sanding prior to glassing. Unfortunately I have a one car
garage that also serves as a laundry room so I haven't been working on
it all week (don't want to kick up alot of dust and P.O. the wife!). I
scaled down the ply to 1/4" sides and 3/8" bottom, seems OK, really
stiffened up with the fillets and I imagine the glass and gunnels and
seats will really make her feel solid. This boat went together so fast
- I cut out the side panels and bottom and stiched all to gether in one
afternoon. I then removed the molds one at a time and cut them down to
5 1/2" to become the seat frames, then laid the fillets in. That's
pretty much where I am now. Sand/glass/sand again then flip her over
and fair and glass the bottom. I also sail a Dovekie and hope to get
out once or twice more before the season ends here in the N.E. So if
the weather is reall nice the Dory's going on the back burner for
another week or so! Jake
Light Dory is Fully assembled and all fillets are in. I guess I'm down
to a bit of sanding prior to glassing. Unfortunately I have a one car
garage that also serves as a laundry room so I haven't been working on
it all week (don't want to kick up alot of dust and P.O. the wife!). I
scaled down the ply to 1/4" sides and 3/8" bottom, seems OK, really
stiffened up with the fillets and I imagine the glass and gunnels and
seats will really make her feel solid. This boat went together so fast
- I cut out the side panels and bottom and stiched all to gether in one
afternoon. I then removed the molds one at a time and cut them down to
5 1/2" to become the seat frames, then laid the fillets in. That's
pretty much where I am now. Sand/glass/sand again then flip her over
and fair and glass the bottom. I also sail a Dovekie and hope to get
out once or twice more before the season ends here in the N.E. So if
the weather is reall nice the Dory's going on the back burner for
another week or so! Jake
Jake,
How is the light dory coming along? I was fascinated to hear that you are
building it stitch and glue. I have read Reuel Parker's book and Sam
Devlin's stitch and glue book. Is this light dory Phil Bolger's design? Do
you think it is going together faster than it would according to
Payson/Bolger?
I am currently finishing off a folding schooner, 31 feet. Its a big little
boat. I live near the San Francisco Bay so it will be fun in and around the
bay. I live on the Sacramento river delta also good for sailing, but
excellent for rowing as well. I think I would like to build the light dory
next.
Let me know how its going!
Thanks.
Chuck.
How is the light dory coming along? I was fascinated to hear that you are
building it stitch and glue. I have read Reuel Parker's book and Sam
Devlin's stitch and glue book. Is this light dory Phil Bolger's design? Do
you think it is going together faster than it would according to
Payson/Bolger?
I am currently finishing off a folding schooner, 31 feet. Its a big little
boat. I live near the San Francisco Bay so it will be fun in and around the
bay. I live on the Sacramento river delta also good for sailing, but
excellent for rowing as well. I think I would like to build the light dory
next.
Let me know how its going!
Thanks.
Chuck.
I'm new to this group, having just recently stumbled onto it! What a
great find this was! I'm currently building a Light Dory using the
stitch and glue method. I used molds # 2,4,and6 and bent the side
panels around, stitched the bow and glued and temporarily shot screws
to hold the transom in place. Next I laid the bottom over this and
traced out the shape from underneath, after cutting it out I drilled
holes in the bottom and sides and stitched it all together, all this
was done in just a few hours. I'm now doing the inside fillets and
getting ready for glassing. I removed the molds one at a time and cut
them down to the 5 1/2" needed for the seat risers then replaced them
and tabbed them in place. I guess there will be quite a bit of sanding
before the glass goes in, but I learned from my last stitch and glue
boat that it pays to take your time - especially with any inside
curves. Has anyone in this group built a Light Dory this way? It seems
to be going together really fast! Thanks in advance for any helpful
info, Jake
great find this was! I'm currently building a Light Dory using the
stitch and glue method. I used molds # 2,4,and6 and bent the side
panels around, stitched the bow and glued and temporarily shot screws
to hold the transom in place. Next I laid the bottom over this and
traced out the shape from underneath, after cutting it out I drilled
holes in the bottom and sides and stitched it all together, all this
was done in just a few hours. I'm now doing the inside fillets and
getting ready for glassing. I removed the molds one at a time and cut
them down to the 5 1/2" needed for the seat risers then replaced them
and tabbed them in place. I guess there will be quite a bit of sanding
before the glass goes in, but I learned from my last stitch and glue
boat that it pays to take your time - especially with any inside
curves. Has anyone in this group built a Light Dory this way? It seems
to be going together really fast! Thanks in advance for any helpful
info, Jake