Re: [bolger] Re: My brick gets a sail
>Thanks.
> Your brick looks GREAT!
>Ruh Roa!
> The draft in your sail looks like the same place I put mine initially.
> Michalak says 45% back from luff, and that is where I tried to put
> mine. Wouldn't point into the wind.
I followed Michalak's polytarp sharpie spritsail essays
(15 Jul, 99 and 1 aug 99) since he used the exact sail that I needed
as his example. It looks to me that in his layout the draft point is only
about 27% back from the luff. The luff-clew distance is about 99 inches
and the draft is centered about 27 inches back from the luff.
45% back does sound too far. I thought the rule of thumb was about 1/3,
but I don't remember where I read that.
> Then I moved it up to 30% from theUnfortunately I won't be able to test mine till next season. I'm in
> luff and it will point 45 degrees off the wind now.
Minnesota and the waters are just WAY too cold this late in the year.
Maybe if I waxed the bottom I could get it to glide across the snow....
I'm in Fort Wayne, Indiana which is farther south and should be having a
little warmer weather than this. By the way your boat really looks sharp. I
like the color, as you said earlier the stealth brick. I lucked out and got
a sail from Dave Gray of Polytarp when he did a demo at the 3rd Annual Small
Boat Symposium in Michigan. It is smaller than the regular Brick sail, but
I have heard that when you are first learning to sail a smaller sail is
better. Did you use fiberglass tape or rope for the edge of your sail. I
have also selected a blue polytarp for my brick's final sail. We will have
to keep in touch. Everyone I have talked to that have sailed a brick say it
sails real well and is great fun. I am really looking forward to getting
out there as I know you are.
Michael Surface
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little warmer weather than this. By the way your boat really looks sharp. I
like the color, as you said earlier the stealth brick. I lucked out and got
a sail from Dave Gray of Polytarp when he did a demo at the 3rd Annual Small
Boat Symposium in Michigan. It is smaller than the regular Brick sail, but
I have heard that when you are first learning to sail a smaller sail is
better. Did you use fiberglass tape or rope for the edge of your sail. I
have also selected a blue polytarp for my brick's final sail. We will have
to keep in touch. Everyone I have talked to that have sailed a brick say it
sails real well and is great fun. I am really looking forward to getting
out there as I know you are.
Michael Surface
>From: <darus@...>_________________________________________________________________________
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>Subject: Re: [bolger] My brick gets a sail
>Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:42:56 -0500 (CDT)
>
> > The weather is not going to
> > cooperate with me this weekend (they say that there is a chance of snow
>on
> > friday and temperatures in the 30's for Saturday and Sunday.( )
>
>Gee. Your weather forcast for the weekend sounds exactly like mine. Where
>are
>you located? I'm near Minneapolis, MN.
>
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<darus@...> wrote:
The draft in your sail looks like the same place I put mine initially.
Michalak says 45% back from luff, and that is where I tried to put
mine. Wouldn't point into the wind. Then I moved it up to 30% from the
luff and it will point 45 degrees off the wind now.
"Michael Surface" wrote:
have it point a little to the side and use it as a jousting spear.
old ladies = 1 point
joggers = 5 points
teen age boys on motor scooters = 15 points
David Routh
Shorty@...
>I've spent the summer building a Bolger Brick and have been postingYour brick looks GREAT!
>occasional updates here and on my webpage.
>Seehttp://www.visi.com/~darus/brickfor the latest photos.
The draft in your sail looks like the same place I put mine initially.
Michalak says 45% back from luff, and that is where I tried to put
mine. Wouldn't point into the wind. Then I moved it up to 30% from the
luff and it will point 45 degrees off the wind now.
"Michael Surface" wrote:
> to bolt the mast together (I made my mast as two sections thatShould have made a one piece mast.. when transporting my brick mast, I
> would bolt together for easier transporting).
have it point a little to the side and use it as a jousting spear.
old ladies = 1 point
joggers = 5 points
teen age boys on motor scooters = 15 points
David Routh
Shorty@...
> The weather is not going toGee. Your weather forcast for the weekend sounds exactly like mine. Where are
> cooperate with me this weekend (they say that there is a chance of snow on
> friday and temperatures in the 30's for Saturday and Sunday.( )
you located? I'm near Minneapolis, MN.
Congratulations!
As a fellow brick builder I really can appreciate the effort you have put
in. I have my mast cut out and shaped but still need to varnish it and put
together the kick up rudder. I just bought all the hardware I need for the
rudder and to bolt the mast together (I made my mast as two sections that
would bolt together for easier transporting). The weather is not going to
cooperate with me this weekend (they say that there is a chance of snow on
friday and temperatures in the 30's for Saturday and Sunday.( ) I am still
hope for a break in the weather so I can try out sailing her. Good luck
with yours and may we have a warm snap.
Michael Surface
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As a fellow brick builder I really can appreciate the effort you have put
in. I have my mast cut out and shaped but still need to varnish it and put
together the kick up rudder. I just bought all the hardware I need for the
rudder and to bolt the mast together (I made my mast as two sections that
would bolt together for easier transporting). The weather is not going to
cooperate with me this weekend (they say that there is a chance of snow on
friday and temperatures in the 30's for Saturday and Sunday.( ) I am still
hope for a break in the weather so I can try out sailing her. Good luck
with yours and may we have a warm snap.
Michael Surface
>From: <darus@...>_________________________________________________________________________
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>To:bolger@egroups.com
>Subject: [bolger] My brick gets a sail
>Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 14:09:00 -0500 (CDT)
>
>I've spent the summer building a Bolger Brick and have been posting
>occasional updates here and on my webpage.
>Seehttp://www.visi.com/~darus/brickfor the latest photos.
>
>I've finally hoisted a sail! I combined ideas from the polytarp sail site,
>the tyvek sail site, and Jim Michalak's polytarp sail essays.
>The mast is a 16' spruce pole. The boom is 10' x 1 1/4" PCV tubing.
>
>The rudder is hung by using screw eyes in the transom and rudder with a
>steel rod through them for a hinge pin. This allows me to have several
>depth settings for the rudder. I still need to modify the rudder to
>a kickup design.
>
>A pair of oars fabricated from two additional pieces of PVC tubing, some
>plywood, and some screws make for auxilary propulsion.
>
>Unless the weather does something surprising in the next couple weeks,
>I won't likely get her in the water until next spring after the lakes thaw.
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>Replying to my own post. Does that cause one to go blind?
> I've finally hoisted a sail! I combined ideas from the polytarp sail site,
> the tyvek sail site, and Jim Michalak's polytarp sail essays.
Anyway, the sites I refer to above are as follows:
The polytarp sail site I refer to is:
http://hometown.aol.com/polysail/HTML/article.htm
The tyvek sail site I refer to is:
http://www.boat-links.com/Tyvek/
Jim Michalak's site is athttp://apci.net/~michalak/
In the "Way Back Issue Archives" the 15 Jul 1999 and
1 Aug 1999 issues had a 2 part article on building a sail
from polytarp.
I've spent the summer building a Bolger Brick and have been posting
occasional updates here and on my webpage.
Seehttp://www.visi.com/~darus/brickfor the latest photos.
I've finally hoisted a sail! I combined ideas from the polytarp sail site,
the tyvek sail site, and Jim Michalak's polytarp sail essays.
The mast is a 16' spruce pole. The boom is 10' x 1 1/4" PCV tubing.
The rudder is hung by using screw eyes in the transom and rudder with a
steel rod through them for a hinge pin. This allows me to have several
depth settings for the rudder. I still need to modify the rudder to
a kickup design.
A pair of oars fabricated from two additional pieces of PVC tubing, some
plywood, and some screws make for auxilary propulsion.
Unless the weather does something surprising in the next couple weeks,
I won't likely get her in the water until next spring after the lakes thaw.
occasional updates here and on my webpage.
Seehttp://www.visi.com/~darus/brickfor the latest photos.
I've finally hoisted a sail! I combined ideas from the polytarp sail site,
the tyvek sail site, and Jim Michalak's polytarp sail essays.
The mast is a 16' spruce pole. The boom is 10' x 1 1/4" PCV tubing.
The rudder is hung by using screw eyes in the transom and rudder with a
steel rod through them for a hinge pin. This allows me to have several
depth settings for the rudder. I still need to modify the rudder to
a kickup design.
A pair of oars fabricated from two additional pieces of PVC tubing, some
plywood, and some screws make for auxilary propulsion.
Unless the weather does something surprising in the next couple weeks,
I won't likely get her in the water until next spring after the lakes thaw.