[bolger] Re: The Scarffer
Chuck,
Great idea using a router to cut the ends of the plywood. I've been
known to sleep with my routers I love the versatility of the tool so
much. Yep, routers, plural, got me two of em, a Sears one I keep in a
router table and a Makita plunge unit for hand work.
I do have one question on it. I'm assuming you use a rabbeting bit to
cut a trough. How wide and how deep do you cut? Do you cut both sides?
(Gee, I guess that was three questions)
TIA
"chuck merrell" <chuckmerrel-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=790
Great idea using a router to cut the ends of the plywood. I've been
known to sleep with my routers I love the versatility of the tool so
much. Yep, routers, plural, got me two of em, a Sears one I keep in a
router table and a Makita plunge unit for hand work.
I do have one question on it. I'm assuming you use a rabbeting bit to
cut a trough. How wide and how deep do you cut? Do you cut both sides?
(Gee, I guess that was three questions)
TIA
"chuck merrell" <chuckmerrel-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=790
> Hello all,well for
>
> I've used the Gougeon Scarf Attachment, and while it works fairly
> 1/4" plywood its not much good if you are using anything thicker. Mycopy
> is kicking around under the front seat of my pickup, and if it getslost or
> purloined, I wouldn't care, Although I bought mine in 1985, Iimagine that
> Gougeon still sells this appliance. However, there is a MUCH BETTERanswer
> to the joining of plywood panels, and one that I've used extensivelywith no
> problems. The better mouse trap is the PAYSON GLASS BUTT JOINT. Ijust
> added a drawing to my list of files on "Private Postings" which showseither
> exactly how to make the joint (as drawn by Tim Payson). You can use
> Polyester Resin to make the joint, and it's quite strong (at least asstrong
> as the Plywood), however I like to use Epoxy and most builders do.the
>
> I used to dish out the ends of the plywood with a grinder as shown in
> drawing, then one day I used a router instead of a grinder whichallowed me
> to calculate the exact thickness of the lay-up over the joint(including the
> resin) which made for a much neater job. I mentioned this toDynamite one
> day, and he liked the idea too, and changed the procedure andrecommended
> my way instead when he wrote the procedure in a WoodenBoat article.Make
> the route on both ends of the plywood one-half the width of the tapeyou're
> going to use to make the joint.joint is
>
> Click your way to Private Postings:http://chux.homepage.com/The
> #2 on the list.that
>
> Cheers!
>
> Chuck
>
> ***********************************
> CHUCK MERRELL
> MERRELL WATERCRAFT
> P. O. Box 80264
> Seattle, WA 98108-0264
> (206) 764-1298
> Email:chuck@...
> Web Site:http://www.boatdesign.com
> ********************************************
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <david@...>
> To: <bolger@egroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 4:36 PM
> Subject: [bolger] The Scarffer
>
>
> > Fellow Bolger Boat Builders --
> >
> > I got my hands on a copy of a copy of Robert M. Steward's book
> > "Boatbuilding Manual" 3rd Edition. Mostly it's a lot of dense text
> > doesn't make boat building seem very exciting or even posible.including
> >
> > However, there are a lot of nice facts, figure and resourses
> > a photo of the Gougeon Brother Scarffer, a contraption thatattaches to
> > a skil saw and cuts a deep bevel in one pass. Sounds like (as Marthathose
> > Stewart says) a "good thing."
> >
> > I'm pretty sure the Gougeon Bros. are the same folks who bring us
> > wonderfully over-priced West Systems products. But if this thingreally
> > works, I might consider my love affair with butt straps, (at least
> > where joining plywood is concerned.)
> >
> > On the other hand, the copyright on this edition is 1987. Mebbe they
> > don't make it anymore.
> >
> > Yours in boat building,
> >
> > David
> >
> >
Hello all,
I've used the Gougeon Scarf Attachment, and while it works fairly well for
1/4" plywood its not much good if you are using anything thicker. My copy
is kicking around under the front seat of my pickup, and if it gets lost or
purloined, I wouldn't care, Although I bought mine in 1985, I imagine that
Gougeon still sells this appliance. However, there is a MUCH BETTER answer
to the joining of plywood panels, and one that I've used extensively with no
problems. The better mouse trap is the PAYSON GLASS BUTT JOINT. I just
added a drawing to my list of files on "Private Postings" which shows
exactly how to make the joint (as drawn by Tim Payson). You can use either
Polyester Resin to make the joint, and it's quite strong (at least as strong
as the Plywood), however I like to use Epoxy and most builders do.
I used to dish out the ends of the plywood with a grinder as shown in the
drawing, then one day I used a router instead of a grinder which allowed me
to calculate the exact thickness of the lay-up over the joint (including the
resin) which made for a much neater job. I mentioned this to Dynamite one
day, and he liked the idea too, and changed the procedure and recommended
my way instead when he wrote the procedure in a WoodenBoat article. Make
the route on both ends of the plywood one-half the width of the tape you're
going to use to make the joint.
Click your way to Private Postings:http://chux.homepage.com/The joint is
#2 on the list.
Cheers!
Chuck
***********************************
CHUCK MERRELL
MERRELL WATERCRAFT
P. O. Box 80264
Seattle, WA 98108-0264
(206) 764-1298
Email:chuck@...
Web Site:http://www.boatdesign.com
********************************************
I've used the Gougeon Scarf Attachment, and while it works fairly well for
1/4" plywood its not much good if you are using anything thicker. My copy
is kicking around under the front seat of my pickup, and if it gets lost or
purloined, I wouldn't care, Although I bought mine in 1985, I imagine that
Gougeon still sells this appliance. However, there is a MUCH BETTER answer
to the joining of plywood panels, and one that I've used extensively with no
problems. The better mouse trap is the PAYSON GLASS BUTT JOINT. I just
added a drawing to my list of files on "Private Postings" which shows
exactly how to make the joint (as drawn by Tim Payson). You can use either
Polyester Resin to make the joint, and it's quite strong (at least as strong
as the Plywood), however I like to use Epoxy and most builders do.
I used to dish out the ends of the plywood with a grinder as shown in the
drawing, then one day I used a router instead of a grinder which allowed me
to calculate the exact thickness of the lay-up over the joint (including the
resin) which made for a much neater job. I mentioned this to Dynamite one
day, and he liked the idea too, and changed the procedure and recommended
my way instead when he wrote the procedure in a WoodenBoat article. Make
the route on both ends of the plywood one-half the width of the tape you're
going to use to make the joint.
Click your way to Private Postings:http://chux.homepage.com/The joint is
#2 on the list.
Cheers!
Chuck
***********************************
CHUCK MERRELL
MERRELL WATERCRAFT
P. O. Box 80264
Seattle, WA 98108-0264
(206) 764-1298
Email:chuck@...
Web Site:http://www.boatdesign.com
********************************************
----- Original Message -----
From: <david@...>
To: <bolger@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 4:36 PM
Subject: [bolger] The Scarffer
> Fellow Bolger Boat Builders --
>
> I got my hands on a copy of a copy of Robert M. Steward's book
> "Boatbuilding Manual" 3rd Edition. Mostly it's a lot of dense text that
> doesn't make boat building seem very exciting or even posible.
>
> However, there are a lot of nice facts, figure and resourses including
> a photo of the Gougeon Brother Scarffer, a contraption that attaches to
> a skil saw and cuts a deep bevel in one pass. Sounds like (as Martha
> Stewart says) a "good thing."
>
> I'm pretty sure the Gougeon Bros. are the same folks who bring us those
> wonderfully over-priced West Systems products. But if this thing really
> works, I might consider my love affair with butt straps, (at least
> where joining plywood is concerned.)
>
> On the other hand, the copyright on this edition is 1987. Mebbe they
> don't make it anymore.
>
> Yours in boat building,
>
> David
>
>
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Fellow Bolger Boat Builders --
I got my hands on a copy of a copy of Robert M. Steward's book
"Boatbuilding Manual" 3rd Edition. Mostly it's a lot of dense text that
doesn't make boat building seem very exciting or even posible.
However, there are a lot of nice facts, figure and resourses including
a photo of the Gougeon Brother Scarffer, a contraption that attaches to
a skil saw and cuts a deep bevel in one pass. Sounds like (as Martha
Stewart says) a "good thing."
I'm pretty sure the Gougeon Bros. are the same folks who bring us those
wonderfully over-priced West Systems products. But if this thing really
works, I might consider my love affair with butt straps, (at least
where joining plywood is concerned.)
On the other hand, the copyright on this edition is 1987. Mebbe they
don't make it anymore.
Yours in boat building,
David
I got my hands on a copy of a copy of Robert M. Steward's book
"Boatbuilding Manual" 3rd Edition. Mostly it's a lot of dense text that
doesn't make boat building seem very exciting or even posible.
However, there are a lot of nice facts, figure and resourses including
a photo of the Gougeon Brother Scarffer, a contraption that attaches to
a skil saw and cuts a deep bevel in one pass. Sounds like (as Martha
Stewart says) a "good thing."
I'm pretty sure the Gougeon Bros. are the same folks who bring us those
wonderfully over-priced West Systems products. But if this thing really
works, I might consider my love affair with butt straps, (at least
where joining plywood is concerned.)
On the other hand, the copyright on this edition is 1987. Mebbe they
don't make it anymore.
Yours in boat building,
David