[bolger] Re: Martha Jane/Birdwatcher cross.
Bob,
I'd love to hear more about your Birdwatcher.
Do you like the boat?
How well does the row/sail concept work in real life?
Is the cabin hot? Does it truly ventilate from the "downdraft" off the sail?
Which rig do you have?
Have you fitted an auxiliary?
Did you build her yourself?
BW is a boat I truly want to see in person and perhaps even build/buy. I
look at my plans from time to time and consider the possibilities...
Thanks!
John Bell
Kennesaw, GA
jmbell@...
http://jmbell.home.mindspring.com
I'd love to hear more about your Birdwatcher.
Do you like the boat?
How well does the row/sail concept work in real life?
Is the cabin hot? Does it truly ventilate from the "downdraft" off the sail?
Which rig do you have?
Have you fitted an auxiliary?
Did you build her yourself?
BW is a boat I truly want to see in person and perhaps even build/buy. I
look at my plans from time to time and consider the possibilities...
Thanks!
John Bell
Kennesaw, GA
jmbell@...
http://jmbell.home.mindspring.com
----- Original Message -----
From: bob archibald <arch@...>
To: <bolger@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 4:53 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Martha Jane/Birdwatcher cross.
> I have just acquired a M.J. and find your lay out interesting. I have not
> yet launckhed the boat and will do some sailing on it before I consider
any
> changes. I have more than enough to do atg the moment, converting Micro to
> Navigator, refinishing Birdwatcher, building scow sailer as project for
> sailing club, and want to build a couple of rowing boats for my wife and
her
> lady friend to go rowing in. bob archibald
>
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Gee Bob, maybe you should take up a hobby or something ;-)
jeb, just trying to build a new workshop on the shores of Fundy
jeb, just trying to build a new workshop on the shores of Fundy
I have just acquired a M.J. and find your lay out interesting. I have not
yet launckhed the boat and will do some sailing on it before I consider any
changes. I have more than enough to do atg the moment, converting Micro to
Navigator, refinishing Birdwatcher, building scow sailer as project for
sailing club, and want to build a couple of rowing boats for my wife and her
lady friend to go rowing in. bob archibald
yet launckhed the boat and will do some sailing on it before I consider any
changes. I have more than enough to do atg the moment, converting Micro to
Navigator, refinishing Birdwatcher, building scow sailer as project for
sailing club, and want to build a couple of rowing boats for my wife and her
lady friend to go rowing in. bob archibald
In a message dated 1/9/2000 6:09:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,pcb@...
writes:
<< In a little while there will be a comprehensive upgrade of MARTHA JANE
covering
new leeboard geometry, rudder alternative, and 'house'.
upgrades - the leeboards in particular - will be able to be adapted for
existing martha janes?? Steve Anderson
writes:
<< In a little while there will be a comprehensive upgrade of MARTHA JANE
covering
new leeboard geometry, rudder alternative, and 'house'.
>>Being just about done with my martha jane - I'm wondering if any of these
upgrades - the leeboards in particular - will be able to be adapted for
existing martha janes?? Steve Anderson
In a little while there will be a comprehensive upgrade of MARTHA JANE covering
new leeboard geometry, rudder alternative, and 'house'.
new leeboard geometry, rudder alternative, and 'house'.
I have just purchased a Martha Jane and like your wife I am sun allergic. I
also have a birdwatcher and would like very much to see your drawings. Would
be most happy to pay postage or whatever .
Bob Archibald P.O.box 933 Steinhatchee Fl.32359
E-mailarch@...
also have a birdwatcher and would like very much to see your drawings. Would
be most happy to pay postage or whatever .
Bob Archibald P.O.box 933 Steinhatchee Fl.32359
E-mailarch@...
I am interested in possibly building a M.J. and presently own a Birdwatcher
amongst other Bolger boats. If you have drawings of your ideas I would
really like to see them and would be happy to pay for foto copies. thanks
for anything you care to share bob archibaldarch@...or bob archibald
po box 933
steinhatchee fl.32359
amongst other Bolger boats. If you have drawings of your ideas I would
really like to see them and would be happy to pay for foto copies. thanks
for anything you care to share bob archibaldarch@...or bob archibald
po box 933
steinhatchee fl.32359
I have been working on a birdwatcher-type design for the Martha Jane.
I think I have come up with an attractive compromise, more headroom and
light, without adding too much weight topside.
First, the birdwatcher-type cabin is only part of the cabin roof. The
floor plan and bulkheads are left the same. The stern end of the cabin
roof is raised up about a foot (more later on the exact height). It is
only about four feet long, the BW part. It ends at the foot of the
forward berths, leaving them under the original cabin roof. I
accidentally drew this at about six feet at first, and I do like the
longer lines also. It would leave about four foot of the original
cabin roof.
The open width of the BW cabin is the same width as the hatch opening
of the original plan. There are two windows (smoked lexan?) on each
side of the raised section, and one in each roof section. There are
also windows on the forward and stern ends of the cabin on each side.
The forward windows have a short sun visor extending out over them.
The BW section construction is light, using 1/4 inch ply and the lexan.
There is no need to ever go on top of the cabin, since it can all be
reached from within.
The original cabin roof should probably be reinforced because there is
no longer a need for the hatch stringers, although a hatch in the cabin
roof might eliminate all need to go onto the original roof except to
get to the forward pit. There can be a couple of lights on
each side of the cabin.
In the BW section folding shelves allow both for a galley and berths
under. The stern end of the cabin is still the original cabin end, but
extensions of the raised wall run about two or three feet towards the
stern along side of the pit, and curve down to meet the wales.
There is a lexan window in each extension, and a triangular piece as a
roof on each side. This will provide a bit of shade and weather
protection in the pit (my wife is very sun sensitive). The overall
silhouette is much like the Tennessee, or older commuter boats.
Without these extensions, it looks much like an AS29.
The exact height of the new roof should be determined by someone
sitting on the pit seat; the roof needs to be high enough for
comfortable sitting under the roof. Unlike most BW cabins, I didn't
set this one up for watching from inside the cabin, but for sun shade
in the pit. Taller seats or longer windows (down into the hull)
would make viewing from inside possible. Actually, higher seats in the
cabin under the higher roof make sense to me, and sitting headroom
would also allow for a folding table with some leg room. It could be a
folding shelf opposite the galley shelf. Folding seats from the wall?
Really thick seat cushions?
This is my concept (still years away from building...anyone have one
for sale cheap?), and I would appreciate any comments. Where do I send
the drawings (I made them on graphics of the MJ lines), or I can email
them to anyone interested.
Curtis in /\/\onTana! {=-{>
I think I have come up with an attractive compromise, more headroom and
light, without adding too much weight topside.
First, the birdwatcher-type cabin is only part of the cabin roof. The
floor plan and bulkheads are left the same. The stern end of the cabin
roof is raised up about a foot (more later on the exact height). It is
only about four feet long, the BW part. It ends at the foot of the
forward berths, leaving them under the original cabin roof. I
accidentally drew this at about six feet at first, and I do like the
longer lines also. It would leave about four foot of the original
cabin roof.
The open width of the BW cabin is the same width as the hatch opening
of the original plan. There are two windows (smoked lexan?) on each
side of the raised section, and one in each roof section. There are
also windows on the forward and stern ends of the cabin on each side.
The forward windows have a short sun visor extending out over them.
The BW section construction is light, using 1/4 inch ply and the lexan.
There is no need to ever go on top of the cabin, since it can all be
reached from within.
The original cabin roof should probably be reinforced because there is
no longer a need for the hatch stringers, although a hatch in the cabin
roof might eliminate all need to go onto the original roof except to
get to the forward pit. There can be a couple of lights on
each side of the cabin.
In the BW section folding shelves allow both for a galley and berths
under. The stern end of the cabin is still the original cabin end, but
extensions of the raised wall run about two or three feet towards the
stern along side of the pit, and curve down to meet the wales.
There is a lexan window in each extension, and a triangular piece as a
roof on each side. This will provide a bit of shade and weather
protection in the pit (my wife is very sun sensitive). The overall
silhouette is much like the Tennessee, or older commuter boats.
Without these extensions, it looks much like an AS29.
The exact height of the new roof should be determined by someone
sitting on the pit seat; the roof needs to be high enough for
comfortable sitting under the roof. Unlike most BW cabins, I didn't
set this one up for watching from inside the cabin, but for sun shade
in the pit. Taller seats or longer windows (down into the hull)
would make viewing from inside possible. Actually, higher seats in the
cabin under the higher roof make sense to me, and sitting headroom
would also allow for a folding table with some leg room. It could be a
folding shelf opposite the galley shelf. Folding seats from the wall?
Really thick seat cushions?
This is my concept (still years away from building...anyone have one
for sale cheap?), and I would appreciate any comments. Where do I send
the drawings (I made them on graphics of the MJ lines), or I can email
them to anyone interested.
Curtis in /\/\onTana! {=-{>