Re: trailer wanted
The trailer thing is pretty straightforward for the stock Diablo.
In response to Clyde, my Diablo has no problems with oilcanning
on the bottom. I used a layer of dynel cloth set in epoxy on both the
inside and outside to prevent any delamination and to give it a little
stiffness. I also only use a 10 hp Johnson with no more than 400 lbs
aboard. It still get up on plane and the kids are happy with it.
Admittedly, a 15 hp motor would be more exciting.
This is my second generation Diablo. The first one had serious
oilcanning due to delamination of the luan plywood that I used, this
could have been quite serious had I not taken the precaution to glass
the outside. It is hard to believe how rigid that layer of glass can
be!
Happy boating,
David Jost
In response to Clyde, my Diablo has no problems with oilcanning
on the bottom. I used a layer of dynel cloth set in epoxy on both the
inside and outside to prevent any delamination and to give it a little
stiffness. I also only use a 10 hp Johnson with no more than 400 lbs
aboard. It still get up on plane and the kids are happy with it.
Admittedly, a 15 hp motor would be more exciting.
This is my second generation Diablo. The first one had serious
oilcanning due to delamination of the luan plywood that I used, this
could have been quite serious had I not taken the precaution to glass
the outside. It is hard to believe how rigid that layer of glass can
be!
Happy boating,
David Jost
The original Fast Motor Sailer was an oversized Diablo, so you might ask PCB.
Clyde
Tim Smith wrote:
Clyde
Tim Smith wrote:
> Ed, glad to hear you've got hold of a Diablo. The trailer I have was
> sized for an 18-foot version and would probably be too long for your
> boat. It was the product of trial and error--mostly the latter. I
> bought a light trailer with a long neck, failing to take into account
> the monstrous 140-pound outboard. The trailer proved too light and the
> neck bent, so I had it replaced with one made of high-grade steel, but
> then decided that I needed big tires for long highway trips and
> replaced the whole thing. So what I've got in the yard is a trailer
> very well suited to a long, skinny, lightweight boat (and several
> builders of such Bolgers have expressed interest). I think David's
> right, you can use about any lightweight trailer for the stock Diablo.
>
> One more thing about trial and error: stretching the Diablo, I made
> some allowances for the increase in power, adding oak quarter knees and
> a bigger stern knee and tripling the transom thickness. But I left the
> bottom as designed, and have found that it oilcans to such a degree
> that it flexes the paint right off. I've just flipped the boat over
> and am getting ready to double the bottom. You might think about
> increasing the bottom thickness of your boat as you work on her. I
> don't know if David has had any trouble with flexing on his boat, but
> mine flexes between frames that are spaced as designed, which makes me
> wonder. Granted, we run the boat at 20 knots or so with as many as
> seven or eight people aboard, and she's so strong that she just asks
> for hard use, but still, it might be a modification worth considering.
>
> --Tim Smith.
>
> --- Inbolger@egroups.com, "David Jost" <djost@m...> wrote:
> > Ed,
> > I have been trailering my Diablo around on a small trailer (EZ
> > loader) for 10 years now. The trailer is only for a 13-14 foot boat,
> > but the Dialbo is so light that I just kind of throw it on and tie it
> > down. I put the motor, a 10 hp Johnson, in the trunk of my car so that
> > it is not exposed to stones on the highway, and to take weight off of
> > the transom when trailering. I think any small trailer will do.
> > \
> > Happy boating,
> > David Jost "father of the Micro "Firefly"
> > > ED HAILE
> > >
> > > --- Inbolger@egroups.com, gradyb@v... wrote:
> > > > Folks,
> > > >
> > > > Just got a Diablo from someone who didn't finish her. I hope to
> > > > get her done over the winter. I just saw a post about a trailer
> > > north
> > > > of NYC and wondered if it would be suitable for a 15 foot Diablo. I
> > > > believe that I received some info from Tim Smith in the past
> > > regarding
> > > > Diablo. Let me know if it would work and or is still available.
> > > I'll
> > > > be in/around NYC for Thanksgiving. I am searching for the combo
> > > idea
> > > > that was mentioned concerning the purchase of a trailer. I know
> > > that
> > > > there is one out there for me. Thanks for your help and
> > > encouragement
> > > > regarding building a bolger design. Brian Grady
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing
> - stay on topic
> - use punctuation
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> - add some content: send "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
Ed, glad to hear you've got hold of a Diablo. The trailer I have was
sized for an 18-foot version and would probably be too long for your
boat. It was the product of trial and error--mostly the latter. I
bought a light trailer with a long neck, failing to take into account
the monstrous 140-pound outboard. The trailer proved too light and the
neck bent, so I had it replaced with one made of high-grade steel, but
then decided that I needed big tires for long highway trips and
replaced the whole thing. So what I've got in the yard is a trailer
very well suited to a long, skinny, lightweight boat (and several
builders of such Bolgers have expressed interest). I think David's
right, you can use about any lightweight trailer for the stock Diablo.
One more thing about trial and error: stretching the Diablo, I made
some allowances for the increase in power, adding oak quarter knees and
a bigger stern knee and tripling the transom thickness. But I left the
bottom as designed, and have found that it oilcans to such a degree
that it flexes the paint right off. I've just flipped the boat over
and am getting ready to double the bottom. You might think about
increasing the bottom thickness of your boat as you work on her. I
don't know if David has had any trouble with flexing on his boat, but
mine flexes between frames that are spaced as designed, which makes me
wonder. Granted, we run the boat at 20 knots or so with as many as
seven or eight people aboard, and she's so strong that she just asks
for hard use, but still, it might be a modification worth considering.
--Tim Smith.
sized for an 18-foot version and would probably be too long for your
boat. It was the product of trial and error--mostly the latter. I
bought a light trailer with a long neck, failing to take into account
the monstrous 140-pound outboard. The trailer proved too light and the
neck bent, so I had it replaced with one made of high-grade steel, but
then decided that I needed big tires for long highway trips and
replaced the whole thing. So what I've got in the yard is a trailer
very well suited to a long, skinny, lightweight boat (and several
builders of such Bolgers have expressed interest). I think David's
right, you can use about any lightweight trailer for the stock Diablo.
One more thing about trial and error: stretching the Diablo, I made
some allowances for the increase in power, adding oak quarter knees and
a bigger stern knee and tripling the transom thickness. But I left the
bottom as designed, and have found that it oilcans to such a degree
that it flexes the paint right off. I've just flipped the boat over
and am getting ready to double the bottom. You might think about
increasing the bottom thickness of your boat as you work on her. I
don't know if David has had any trouble with flexing on his boat, but
mine flexes between frames that are spaced as designed, which makes me
wonder. Granted, we run the boat at 20 knots or so with as many as
seven or eight people aboard, and she's so strong that she just asks
for hard use, but still, it might be a modification worth considering.
--Tim Smith.
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, "David Jost" <djost@m...> wrote:
> Ed,
> I have been trailering my Diablo around on a small trailer (EZ
> loader) for 10 years now. The trailer is only for a 13-14 foot boat,
> but the Dialbo is so light that I just kind of throw it on and tie it
> down. I put the motor, a 10 hp Johnson, in the trunk of my car so that
> it is not exposed to stones on the highway, and to take weight off of
> the transom when trailering. I think any small trailer will do.
> \
> Happy boating,
> David Jost "father of the Micro "Firefly"
> > ED HAILE
> >
> > --- Inbolger@egroups.com, gradyb@v... wrote:
> > > Folks,
> > >
> > > Just got a Diablo from someone who didn't finish her. I hope to
> > > get her done over the winter. I just saw a post about a trailer
> > north
> > > of NYC and wondered if it would be suitable for a 15 foot Diablo. I
> > > believe that I received some info from Tim Smith in the past
> > regarding
> > > Diablo. Let me know if it would work and or is still available.
> > I'll
> > > be in/around NYC for Thanksgiving. I am searching for the combo
> > idea
> > > that was mentioned concerning the purchase of a trailer. I know
> > that
> > > there is one out there for me. Thanks for your help and
> > encouragement
> > > regarding building a bolger design. Brian Grady
Ed,
I have been trailering my Diablo around on a small trailer (EZ
loader) for 10 years now. The trailer is only for a 13-14 foot boat,
but the Dialbo is so light that I just kind of throw it on and tie it
down. I put the motor, a 10 hp Johnson, in the trunk of my car so that
it is not exposed to stones on the highway, and to take weight off of
the transom when trailering. I think any small trailer will do.
\
Happy boating,
David Jost "father of the Micro "Firefly"
I have been trailering my Diablo around on a small trailer (EZ
loader) for 10 years now. The trailer is only for a 13-14 foot boat,
but the Dialbo is so light that I just kind of throw it on and tie it
down. I put the motor, a 10 hp Johnson, in the trunk of my car so that
it is not exposed to stones on the highway, and to take weight off of
the transom when trailering. I think any small trailer will do.
\
Happy boating,
David Jost "father of the Micro "Firefly"
> ED HAILE
>
> --- Inbolger@egroups.com, gradyb@v... wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > Just got a Diablo from someone who didn't finish her. I hope to
> > get her done over the winter. I just saw a post about a trailer
> north
> > of NYC and wondered if it would be suitable for a 15 foot Diablo. I
> > believe that I received some info from Tim Smith in the past
> regarding
> > Diablo. Let me know if it would work and or is still available.
> I'll
> > be in/around NYC for Thanksgiving. I am searching for the combo
> idea
> > that was mentioned concerning the purchase of a trailer. I know
> that
> > there is one out there for me. Thanks for your help and
> encouragement
> > regarding building a bolger design. Brian Grady
Brian,
I have the hardware for a boat trailer that had a wooden frame. That
is, I have the wheels & axle & the tongue. You're welcome to come get
em, near Richmond, Va.
ED HAILE
I have the hardware for a boat trailer that had a wooden frame. That
is, I have the wheels & axle & the tongue. You're welcome to come get
em, near Richmond, Va.
ED HAILE
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, gradyb@v... wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Just got a Diablo from someone who didn't finish her. I hope to
> get her done over the winter. I just saw a post about a trailer
north
> of NYC and wondered if it would be suitable for a 15 foot Diablo. I
> believe that I received some info from Tim Smith in the past
regarding
> Diablo. Let me know if it would work and or is still available.
I'll
> be in/around NYC for Thanksgiving. I am searching for the combo
idea
> that was mentioned concerning the purchase of a trailer. I know
that
> there is one out there for me. Thanks for your help and
encouragement
> regarding building a bolger design. Brian Grady
Folks,
Just got a Diablo from someone who didn't finish her. I hope to
get her done over the winter. I just saw a post about a trailer north
of NYC and wondered if it would be suitable for a 15 foot Diablo. I
believe that I received some info from Tim Smith in the past regarding
Diablo. Let me know if it would work and or is still available. I'll
be in/around NYC for Thanksgiving. I am searching for the combo idea
that was mentioned concerning the purchase of a trailer. I know that
there is one out there for me. Thanks for your help and encouragement
regarding building a bolger design. Brian Grady
Just got a Diablo from someone who didn't finish her. I hope to
get her done over the winter. I just saw a post about a trailer north
of NYC and wondered if it would be suitable for a 15 foot Diablo. I
believe that I received some info from Tim Smith in the past regarding
Diablo. Let me know if it would work and or is still available. I'll
be in/around NYC for Thanksgiving. I am searching for the combo idea
that was mentioned concerning the purchase of a trailer. I know that
there is one out there for me. Thanks for your help and encouragement
regarding building a bolger design. Brian Grady