Re: Any Micro sailors in S. california area?
Todd -
no, I'm going to use the original rig. I thought about that but I must
say that I haven't heard very nice opinions about that modernized
Chinese rig; at least, there are no real world reports that I know
of on how it behaves on the Micro.
About the Toyota, I'm pretty sure you could trail two or three Micros
with that...
Best, Pippo
no, I'm going to use the original rig. I thought about that but I must
say that I haven't heard very nice opinions about that modernized
Chinese rig; at least, there are no real world reports that I know
of on how it behaves on the Micro.
About the Toyota, I'm pretty sure you could trail two or three Micros
with that...
Best, Pippo
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, Todd Snyder <boomjib@e...> wrote:
> Hey thanks, I checked it out . Not one for pilot house cabins. Like
the rig
> , I wonder how well the rig works.
>
> Are you going to use this rig or similar on your micro?
>
> Like the seabird.
>
> Toyota pickup four cylinder 150hp.
>
> Todd
Hey thanks, I checked it out . Not one for pilot house cabins. Like the rig
, I wonder how well the rig works.
Are you going to use this rig or similar on your micro?
Like the seabird.
Toyota pickup four cylinder 150hp.
Todd
Giuseppe Bianco wrote:
, I wonder how well the rig works.
Are you going to use this rig or similar on your micro?
Like the seabird.
Toyota pickup four cylinder 150hp.
Todd
Giuseppe Bianco wrote:
> There's a scanned copy on line:
>http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/merrellc1/Files/navigator1.pdf
> Best, Pippo
>
> --- Inbolger@egroups.com, "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> > Bolger designed a Micro for off shore work, the Micro Navigator.
> Design
> > number #422 featured in MAIB volumn 16 number 16, I think 15 Nov
> 1998 but I
> > wouldn't bet on it.
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing
> - stay on topic
> - use punctuation
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> - add some content: send "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
You might look at Micro Navigator in Mess About Boats, Vol 16-Num 16, Design
422, plans about $100 from PCB Clyde
Todd Snyder wrote:
422, plans about $100 from PCB Clyde
Todd Snyder wrote:
> HeY Chuck,
>
> Thanks for the welcome .
>
> I live in Southern California. Are there builders in my area?
>
> What's the longest crossing ever recorded in a micro?
>
> Is the Micro sea worthy or just an inland sheltered water way coastal
> cruiser?
>
> What would be a inexpensive easy to build ocean crossing sailboat?
>
> Thanks ,
> Todd
>
> Chuck Leinweber wrote:
>
> > Todd:
> >
> > There are a number of Micro owners on this list who would probably be glad
> > to take you for a cruise. Where do you live?
> >
> > I have never seen a junk rig on a Micro, but I'll bet it has been done.
> >
> > I would say that this boat is too heavy for your 4 banger.
> >
> > I would advise against it, but If you leave for Hawaii in a Micro, just be
> > sure to follow the con trails (inside joke).
> >
> > BTW welcome to the group. There is a lot of experience here, especially
> > with Micros.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > >
> > > New-bee intrested in seeing one inperson, sailing on (in) one and
> > > possible builing a micro.
> > >
> > > Has anyone put a junk rig on a micro, how did it sail?
> > >
> > > Will I be able to launch it from the trailor behind my toyota 4
> > > banger.
> > >
> > > How about sailing it to Hawaii?
> > >
> > > Thanks ,
> > > Todd
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bolger rules!!!
> > > - no cursing
> > > - stay on topic
> > > - use punctuation
> > > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> > > - add some content: send "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Bolger rules!!!
> > - no cursing
> > - stay on topic
> > - use punctuation
> > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> > - add some content: send "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing
> - stay on topic
> - use punctuation
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> - add some content: send "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
There's a scanned copy on line:
http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/merrellc1/Files/navigator1.pdf
Best, Pippo
http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/merrellc1/Files/navigator1.pdf
Best, Pippo
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...> wrote:
> Bolger designed a Micro for off shore work, the Micro Navigator.
Design
> number #422 featured in MAIB volumn 16 number 16, I think 15 Nov
1998 but I
> wouldn't bet on it.
Bolger designed a Micro for off shore work, the Micro Navigator. Design
number #422 featured in MAIB volumn 16 number 16, I think 15 Nov 1998 but I
wouldn't bet on it. This boat featured the Chines Gaff also, so it might be
what you are looking for David. I could dig out my copy and scan it for the
files after Fritz Funk gets back from Japan where he is looking at boats and
eating squid. I have to borrow his scanner.
David, MAIB is Messing About in Boats, a small and eccentric magazine mostly
about small boating in the North East, but it features an article by Bolger
and Friends every issue, which makes for incredible value added. Back issues
at:
Messing About In Boats
29 Burley Street
Wenham, MA 01984-1943
978-774-0906
HJ
David Ryan wrote:
% Harrywelshman@...
number #422 featured in MAIB volumn 16 number 16, I think 15 Nov 1998 but I
wouldn't bet on it. This boat featured the Chines Gaff also, so it might be
what you are looking for David. I could dig out my copy and scan it for the
files after Fritz Funk gets back from Japan where he is looking at boats and
eating squid. I have to borrow his scanner.
David, MAIB is Messing About in Boats, a small and eccentric magazine mostly
about small boating in the North East, but it features an article by Bolger
and Friends every issue, which makes for incredible value added. Back issues
at:
Messing About In Boats
29 Burley Street
Wenham, MA 01984-1943
978-774-0906
HJ
David Ryan wrote:
> >What's the longest crossing ever recorded in a micro?_ _ _ _ _
>
> I had a correspondence with PCB about developing a low cost boat for
> sailing from Montauk to Bermuda.
>
> From his letters, I gathered his greatest concern (other than the
> soundness of my mind,) wasn't the seaworthiness of an small boat, but
> rather how well she could be provisioned in the event that I missed
> Bermuda and found myself heading East with no real choice but to keep
> going.
>
> The Micro is about half the size of the concept we were toying with,
> so I suppose the provision concern would be that much greater.
>
> My recent outing in the LSME have giving me a new perspect on gentle
> mannered boats, and the Micro has been very much on my mind. It must
> be a wonderful feeling sitting high, and relatively dry in a boat
> that you know can handle whatever the weather is likely to throw at
> you.
>
> YIBB,
>
> David
>
% Harrywelshman@...
Todd -welcome to the list. I'm building a Micro in Italy.
Phil Bolger and Friends have designed a junk gaff rig for the Micro
Navigator (a Micro with a dog house), but I haven't heard anything
from the real world on that.
I don't understand what do you mean for a Toyota "4 banger" (what's
that?). I have a Volvo, 125 HP, which is rated to trail up to 1200 kg.
The Micro should weigh aroung 400 kg, add the trailer... There are
published accounts on Micro trailed behind a VW Golf (I guess it was
called Rabbit in the USA).
Sailing to Hawaii? Probably the worst thing on the Micro, from the
seaworthiness point of view, is the unstayed rig. Also, the self
flooding wells do not seem the best idea for offshore work, and I have
some doubts about how safe the foredeck could be in bad conditions. A
relatively manageable offshore boat designed by PCB is his Sea Bird
'86, a much bigger project than a Micro though.
Best, Pippo
Phil Bolger and Friends have designed a junk gaff rig for the Micro
Navigator (a Micro with a dog house), but I haven't heard anything
from the real world on that.
I don't understand what do you mean for a Toyota "4 banger" (what's
that?). I have a Volvo, 125 HP, which is rated to trail up to 1200 kg.
The Micro should weigh aroung 400 kg, add the trailer... There are
published accounts on Micro trailed behind a VW Golf (I guess it was
called Rabbit in the USA).
Sailing to Hawaii? Probably the worst thing on the Micro, from the
seaworthiness point of view, is the unstayed rig. Also, the self
flooding wells do not seem the best idea for offshore work, and I have
some doubts about how safe the foredeck could be in bad conditions. A
relatively manageable offshore boat designed by PCB is his Sea Bird
'86, a much bigger project than a Micro though.
Best, Pippo
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, "Todd " <boomjib@e...> wrote:
>
> New-bee intrested in seeing one inperson, sailing on (in) one and
> possible builing a micro.
>
> Has anyone put a junk rig on a micro, how did it sail?
>
> Will I be able to launch it from the trailor behind my toyota 4
> banger.
>
> How about sailing it to Hawaii?
>
> Thanks ,
> Todd
Todd --
You're a man after my own heart!
The boat Bolger suggested was a modified Birdwatch, more stoutly
built and capable of being battened down into a watertight survival
capsule if conditions got really dirty. In mind it was sort of an
oversided, self-righting whitewater kayak with a sail. I was gunghoe
for the idea, but I think I spooked him with my enthusiasm and he
decided he wanted no part in my suicide. But I think the idea still
has merit.
LSME is the Light Scooner Margaret Ellen, and although the scooner is
designed as a hot rod, sailing her in light air has given my a new
found appreciation for not driving a rig hard, and not pushing the
envelope. I too dream of running down the trades, but when I do,
it'll be in a boat that will not only make it (the micro very well
might,) but in a boat that will make it in high style!
YIBB,
David
134 W.26th St. 12th Floor
New York, NY 10001
(212) 243-1636
You're a man after my own heart!
The boat Bolger suggested was a modified Birdwatch, more stoutly
built and capable of being battened down into a watertight survival
capsule if conditions got really dirty. In mind it was sort of an
oversided, self-righting whitewater kayak with a sail. I was gunghoe
for the idea, but I think I spooked him with my enthusiasm and he
decided he wanted no part in my suicide. But I think the idea still
has merit.
LSME is the Light Scooner Margaret Ellen, and although the scooner is
designed as a hot rod, sailing her in light air has given my a new
found appreciation for not driving a rig hard, and not pushing the
envelope. I too dream of running down the trades, but when I do,
it'll be in a boat that will not only make it (the micro very well
might,) but in a boat that will make it in high style!
YIBB,
David
>Well two boxes of 80 packets of met-rx 2 a day 40 days ,weight roughlyCRUMBLING EMPIRE PRODUCTIONS
>around 10 15 lb.., 40 gallons of water,a can of instant coffee and gatorade,
>is it 8lb.. a gallon? A box of MRE's 20lb.. and what ever you catch along
>the way.
>
> I'm not leaving any time soon but wood be nice to know if the boat I want
>to build would accommodate me If I wanted to up and go before hurricane
>season.
>
>LSME?
>
>Thanks,
>Todd
>
>David Ryan wrote:
>
>> >What's the longest crossing ever recorded in a micro?
>>
>> I had a correspondence with PCB about developing a low cost boat for
>> sailing from Montauk to Bermuda.
>>
>> From his letters, I gathered his greatest concern (other than the
>> soundness of my mind,) wasn't the seaworthiness of an small boat, but
>> rather how well she could be provisioned in the event that I missed
>> Bermuda and found myself heading East with no real choice but to keep
>> going.
>>
>> The Micro is about half the size of the concept we were toying with,
>> so I suppose the provision concern would be that much greater.
>>
>> My recent outing in the LSME have giving me a new perspect on gentle
>> mannered boats, and the Micro has been very much on my mind. It must
>> be a wonderful feeling sitting high, and relatively dry in a boat
>> that you know can handle whatever the weather is likely to throw at
>> you.
>>
>> YIBB,
>>
>> David
>>
>> CRUMBLING EMPIRE PRODUCTIONS
>> 134 W.26th St. 12th Floor
>> New York, NY 10001
>> (212) 243-1636
>>
>>
>> Bolger rules!!!
>> - no cursing
>> - stay on topic
>> - use punctuation
>> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
>> - add some content: send "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
>
>
>
>Bolger rules!!!
>- no cursing
>- stay on topic
>- use punctuation
>- add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
>- add some content: send "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
134 W.26th St. 12th Floor
New York, NY 10001
(212) 243-1636
Well two boxes of 80 packets of met-rx 2 a day 40 days ,weight roughly
around 10 15 lb.., 40 gallons of water,a can of instant coffee and gatorade,
is it 8lb.. a gallon? A box of MRE's 20lb.. and what ever you catch along
the way.
I'm not leaving any time soon but wood be nice to know if the boat I want
to build would accommodate me If I wanted to up and go before hurricane
season.
LSME?
Thanks,
Todd
David Ryan wrote:
around 10 15 lb.., 40 gallons of water,a can of instant coffee and gatorade,
is it 8lb.. a gallon? A box of MRE's 20lb.. and what ever you catch along
the way.
I'm not leaving any time soon but wood be nice to know if the boat I want
to build would accommodate me If I wanted to up and go before hurricane
season.
LSME?
Thanks,
Todd
David Ryan wrote:
> >What's the longest crossing ever recorded in a micro?
>
> I had a correspondence with PCB about developing a low cost boat for
> sailing from Montauk to Bermuda.
>
> From his letters, I gathered his greatest concern (other than the
> soundness of my mind,) wasn't the seaworthiness of an small boat, but
> rather how well she could be provisioned in the event that I missed
> Bermuda and found myself heading East with no real choice but to keep
> going.
>
> The Micro is about half the size of the concept we were toying with,
> so I suppose the provision concern would be that much greater.
>
> My recent outing in the LSME have giving me a new perspect on gentle
> mannered boats, and the Micro has been very much on my mind. It must
> be a wonderful feeling sitting high, and relatively dry in a boat
> that you know can handle whatever the weather is likely to throw at
> you.
>
> YIBB,
>
> David
>
> CRUMBLING EMPIRE PRODUCTIONS
> 134 W.26th St. 12th Floor
> New York, NY 10001
> (212) 243-1636
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing
> - stay on topic
> - use punctuation
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> - add some content: send "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
>What's the longest crossing ever recorded in a micro?I had a correspondence with PCB about developing a low cost boat for
sailing from Montauk to Bermuda.
From his letters, I gathered his greatest concern (other than the
soundness of my mind,) wasn't the seaworthiness of an small boat, but
rather how well she could be provisioned in the event that I missed
Bermuda and found myself heading East with no real choice but to keep
going.
The Micro is about half the size of the concept we were toying with,
so I suppose the provision concern would be that much greater.
My recent outing in the LSME have giving me a new perspect on gentle
mannered boats, and the Micro has been very much on my mind. It must
be a wonderful feeling sitting high, and relatively dry in a boat
that you know can handle whatever the weather is likely to throw at
you.
YIBB,
David
CRUMBLING EMPIRE PRODUCTIONS
134 W.26th St. 12th Floor
New York, NY 10001
(212) 243-1636
HeY Chuck,
Thanks for the welcome .
I live in Southern California. Are there builders in my area?
What's the longest crossing ever recorded in a micro?
Is the Micro sea worthy or just an inland sheltered water way coastal
cruiser?
What would be a inexpensive easy to build ocean crossing sailboat?
Thanks ,
Todd
Chuck Leinweber wrote:
Thanks for the welcome .
I live in Southern California. Are there builders in my area?
What's the longest crossing ever recorded in a micro?
Is the Micro sea worthy or just an inland sheltered water way coastal
cruiser?
What would be a inexpensive easy to build ocean crossing sailboat?
Thanks ,
Todd
Chuck Leinweber wrote:
> Todd:
>
> There are a number of Micro owners on this list who would probably be glad
> to take you for a cruise. Where do you live?
>
> I have never seen a junk rig on a Micro, but I'll bet it has been done.
>
> I would say that this boat is too heavy for your 4 banger.
>
> I would advise against it, but If you leave for Hawaii in a Micro, just be
> sure to follow the con trails (inside joke).
>
> BTW welcome to the group. There is a lot of experience here, especially
> with Micros.
>
> Chuck
>
> >
> > New-bee intrested in seeing one inperson, sailing on (in) one and
> > possible builing a micro.
> >
> > Has anyone put a junk rig on a micro, how did it sail?
> >
> > Will I be able to launch it from the trailor behind my toyota 4
> > banger.
> >
> > How about sailing it to Hawaii?
> >
> > Thanks ,
> > Todd
> >
> >
> >
> > Bolger rules!!!
> > - no cursing
> > - stay on topic
> > - use punctuation
> > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> > - add some content: send "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
> >
> >
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing
> - stay on topic
> - use punctuation
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> - add some content: send "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
Todd:
There are a number of Micro owners on this list who would probably be glad
to take you for a cruise. Where do you live?
I have never seen a junk rig on a Micro, but I'll bet it has been done.
I would say that this boat is too heavy for your 4 banger.
I would advise against it, but If you leave for Hawaii in a Micro, just be
sure to follow the con trails (inside joke).
BTW welcome to the group. There is a lot of experience here, especially
with Micros.
Chuck
There are a number of Micro owners on this list who would probably be glad
to take you for a cruise. Where do you live?
I have never seen a junk rig on a Micro, but I'll bet it has been done.
I would say that this boat is too heavy for your 4 banger.
I would advise against it, but If you leave for Hawaii in a Micro, just be
sure to follow the con trails (inside joke).
BTW welcome to the group. There is a lot of experience here, especially
with Micros.
Chuck
>
> New-bee intrested in seeing one inperson, sailing on (in) one and
> possible builing a micro.
>
> Has anyone put a junk rig on a micro, how did it sail?
>
> Will I be able to launch it from the trailor behind my toyota 4
> banger.
>
> How about sailing it to Hawaii?
>
> Thanks ,
> Todd
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing
> - stay on topic
> - use punctuation
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> - add some content: send "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
>
>
New-bee intrested in seeing one inperson, sailing on (in) one and
possible builing a micro.
Has anyone put a junk rig on a micro, how did it sail?
Will I be able to launch it from the trailor behind my toyota 4
banger.
How about sailing it to Hawaii?
Thanks ,
Todd
possible builing a micro.
Has anyone put a junk rig on a micro, how did it sail?
Will I be able to launch it from the trailor behind my toyota 4
banger.
How about sailing it to Hawaii?
Thanks ,
Todd