Watervan
I stand corrected as to the name.
I found a site of interest
"duckflatboats.com" There is a series of boats called "nomad" that were built by this company
with credit due to Mr. Bolger. Similar to the Tennessee design. The interesting part of this is the electric power.
I found a site of interest
"duckflatboats.com" There is a series of boats called "nomad" that were built by this company
with credit due to Mr. Bolger. Similar to the Tennessee design. The interesting part of this is the electric power.
Somebody over at Bolger2 is asking about plans.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/photos/album/604575117/pic/278281359/view?picmode=medium&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
Nels
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/photos/album/604575117/pic/278281359/view?picmode=medium&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
Nels
>On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Harry Tams <harrytams@...> wrote:I think only two were ever built. One was photographed in Canada in 2005.
>
>
> My main interest presently is the Bolger Watervan or similar sized step sharpie power vessels.
>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bryant_owen/58816573/
> cost for a Watervan. > GlennGuessing,
Used motor $5,000
Trailer $2,500
Wood $2,500
Epoxy $1,500
Fitout $5,000
==============
$16,500 baseline which could be doubled (or more) by 'gold plating'.
500 to 1,000+ manhours?
Sorry about the typo. No political, religious or otherwise comment
intended.
Bryant
intended.
Bryant
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bryant Owen" <mariner@...> wrote:
>
> You might contact Stefan Gutermuth in Jew Jersey. He built one of two
> in the world. I had the opportunity to go for a ride on it at the 2006
> Kingston Messabout. See
>http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/06/gatherings/kingston/index.htm
>
> I don't have a contact for Steve but I'm sure Bruce Hector, who hosted
> the event, does. BTW - my understanding was that there was to be a
> Messabout in New Jersey that Steve was - as of the Kingston Messabout
> - setting up. Haven't heard anything since. Anyone?
>
> Bryant
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Glenn" <linda_glenn@> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know the material cost or projected construction cost for
> > a Watervan.
> >
> > Glenn
> >
>
You might contact Stefan Gutermuth in Jew Jersey. He built one of two
in the world. I had the opportunity to go for a ride on it at the 2006
Kingston Messabout. See
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/06/gatherings/kingston/index.htm
I don't have a contact for Steve but I'm sure Bruce Hector, who hosted
the event, does. BTW - my understanding was that there was to be a
Messabout in New Jersey that Steve was - as of the Kingston Messabout
- setting up. Haven't heard anything since. Anyone?
Bryant
in the world. I had the opportunity to go for a ride on it at the 2006
Kingston Messabout. See
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/06/gatherings/kingston/index.htm
I don't have a contact for Steve but I'm sure Bruce Hector, who hosted
the event, does. BTW - my understanding was that there was to be a
Messabout in New Jersey that Steve was - as of the Kingston Messabout
- setting up. Haven't heard anything since. Anyone?
Bryant
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Glenn" <linda_glenn@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the material cost or projected construction cost for
> a Watervan.
>
> Glenn
>
I contacted Bolger to see if he had a plan for a larger (longer, widder, higher) version of Watervan. He didn't have plans for the latter. The design just looks like it would be very simple/quick to build.
projections without contacting PCB&F themselves as there are no
scantlings really mentioned in any of the write-ups I have seen.
Then the next factor to consider is what quality of materials and
finish are you considering? This can affect the hull cost by 100% or
more.
The third factor is that Watervan would require a fairly expensive
motor (90 hp) and trailer and enough power to tow it all.
Watervan also has a fair ammount of equipment and furnishings
inside, plumbing, controls, electrical, much like a Class B
motorhome, or a tandem wheeled travel trailer - which it could
double as - on longer trips especially.
I would take a wild guess that I would like to have about 15-20K set
aside to get a good quality finished product with a reliable 4-
stroke motor and tandem wheeled trailer.
A guy like Bruce Hallman could likely do it for half that and have
twice as much fun in doing it:-)
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> Does anyone know the material cost or projected construction costfor
> a Watervan.I expect it would be very difficult to get any worthwhile
>
> Glenn
>
projections without contacting PCB&F themselves as there are no
scantlings really mentioned in any of the write-ups I have seen.
Then the next factor to consider is what quality of materials and
finish are you considering? This can affect the hull cost by 100% or
more.
The third factor is that Watervan would require a fairly expensive
motor (90 hp) and trailer and enough power to tow it all.
Watervan also has a fair ammount of equipment and furnishings
inside, plumbing, controls, electrical, much like a Class B
motorhome, or a tandem wheeled travel trailer - which it could
double as - on longer trips especially.
I would take a wild guess that I would like to have about 15-20K set
aside to get a good quality finished product with a reliable 4-
stroke motor and tandem wheeled trailer.
A guy like Bruce Hallman could likely do it for half that and have
twice as much fun in doing it:-)
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Glenn" <linda_glenn@...> wrote:
projections without contacting PCB&F themselves as there are no
scantlings really mentioned in any of the write-ups I have seen.
Then the next factor to consider is what quality of materials and
finish are you considering? This can affect the hull cost by 100% or
more.
The third factor is that Watervan would require a fairly expensive
motor (90 hp) and trailer and enough power to tow it all.
Watervan also has a fair ammount of equipment and furnishings
inside, plumbing, controls, electrical, much like a Class B
motorhome, or a tandem wheeled travel trailer - which it could
double as - on longer trips especially.
I would take a wild guess that I would like to have about 15-20K set
aside to get a good quality finished product with a reliable 4-
stroke motor and tandem wheeled trailer.
A guy like Bruce Hallman could likely do it for half that and have
twice as much fun in doing it:-)
Fax PCB&F and enquire if you are at all serious.
Nels
>for
> Does anyone know the material cost or projected construction cost
> a Watervan.I expect it would be very difficult to get any worthwhile
>
> Glenn
>
projections without contacting PCB&F themselves as there are no
scantlings really mentioned in any of the write-ups I have seen.
Then the next factor to consider is what quality of materials and
finish are you considering? This can affect the hull cost by 100% or
more.
The third factor is that Watervan would require a fairly expensive
motor (90 hp) and trailer and enough power to tow it all.
Watervan also has a fair ammount of equipment and furnishings
inside, plumbing, controls, electrical, much like a Class B
motorhome, or a tandem wheeled travel trailer - which it could
double as - on longer trips especially.
I would take a wild guess that I would like to have about 15-20K set
aside to get a good quality finished product with a reliable 4-
stroke motor and tandem wheeled trailer.
A guy like Bruce Hallman could likely do it for half that and have
twice as much fun in doing it:-)
Fax PCB&F and enquire if you are at all serious.
Nels
Does anyone know the material cost or projected construction cost for
a Watervan.
Glenn
a Watervan.
Glenn
Fritz Funk moved his Sneakeasy to Wisconsin, it has a 15 hp on it. The
year before last he made a camping trip up the Mississippi and back of
approximately 200 miles and used one tank of gas. The fuel consumption
on his boat is so low it is not a consideration. The 15 hp is more than
enough motor, I have cruised locally in Juneau on this boat and it is fast.
http://www.alaska.net/~fritzf/Boats/Sneakeasy/Sneakeasy.htm
HJ
Glenn wrote:
year before last he made a camping trip up the Mississippi and back of
approximately 200 miles and used one tank of gas. The fuel consumption
on his boat is so low it is not a consideration. The 15 hp is more than
enough motor, I have cruised locally in Juneau on this boat and it is fast.
http://www.alaska.net/~fritzf/Boats/Sneakeasy/Sneakeasy.htm
HJ
Glenn wrote:
> Does anyone know average fuel consumption of a Watervan or Sneakeasy
> and what size motor that was with, we are looking into building both
> boats and my wife has concerns.
>
> Glenn
>
>
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Does anyone know average fuel consumption of a Watervan or Sneakeasy
and what size motor that was with, we are looking into building both
boats and my wife has concerns.
Glenn
and what size motor that was with, we are looking into building both
boats and my wife has concerns.
Glenn
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Gutermuth" <stefan-g@m...>
wrote:
entitled "Bolger Boats". Is that yours?
Any idea what the trailer weight is?
Thanks, Nels
wrote:
> My Partner George, & I have built, and have been operating for thepast
> 3 years the only "Bolger Watervan" in the Northern Hemisphere. Itis a
> wonderful, any weather, full 3 season craft. It got a lot ofattention
> on the Eire Canal this fall. Lots of comments like, "what a perfectThere are some photos of a WATERVAN at Bolger2 in the folder
> canal / intercostal live aboard".
>
entitled "Bolger Boats". Is that yours?
Any idea what the trailer weight is?
Thanks, Nels
My Partner George, & I have built, and have been operating for the past
3 years the only "Bolger Watervan" in the Northern Hemisphere. It is a
wonderful, any weather, full 3 season craft. It got a lot of attention
on the Eire Canal this fall. Lots of comments like, "what a perfect
canal / intercostal live aboard".
It worked very well for the two week trip. We built the Watervan with a
roof strong enough to be used as a deck, actually not much higher than a
normal 25' boat, but with the added benefit of a fully enclosed
interior. Useful floor of 20' x 8'.
If you're interested, I'll furnish pictures. E-mail me directly at:
stefan-g@...with additional information requests.
Stefan Gutermuth
-----Original Message-----
From: vicskiff [mailto:john.ewing@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:26 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Watervan/Cabin Clam Skiff
To tie together a couple of threads, albeit a little tardily...
Watervan is not a sharpie, of course, but rather a further step
along an evolutionary path from Fiddler II, mentioned earlier.
Watervan is considerably larger, an all-indoor boat (one pilots
Fiddler II while standing in a transverse slot aft, looking over a
cabin with 4 feet of headroom), and adds a box keel. Fiddler II has
long intrigued me but, insofar as I know, no plans are available,
PCB not having taken it beyond a design exercise.
As mentioned by others, Cabin Clam Skiff is close to the sharpie
form but features a River Thames 'saloon launch' cabin. Vey stylish
for a 'square boat' but lots of windage despite less-than-standing
headroom. As I go round and round considering 'next boats', CCS
regularly comes to the fore. But then come thoughts of how it might
be better. And I'm really taken aback by the lack of detail -- key
dimensions, even, and no specs sheet or materials list -- that
Bolger provides in the blueprints.
My 2 cents (Cdn).
John
3 years the only "Bolger Watervan" in the Northern Hemisphere. It is a
wonderful, any weather, full 3 season craft. It got a lot of attention
on the Eire Canal this fall. Lots of comments like, "what a perfect
canal / intercostal live aboard".
It worked very well for the two week trip. We built the Watervan with a
roof strong enough to be used as a deck, actually not much higher than a
normal 25' boat, but with the added benefit of a fully enclosed
interior. Useful floor of 20' x 8'.
If you're interested, I'll furnish pictures. E-mail me directly at:
stefan-g@...with additional information requests.
Stefan Gutermuth
-----Original Message-----
From: vicskiff [mailto:john.ewing@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:26 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Watervan/Cabin Clam Skiff
To tie together a couple of threads, albeit a little tardily...
Watervan is not a sharpie, of course, but rather a further step
along an evolutionary path from Fiddler II, mentioned earlier.
Watervan is considerably larger, an all-indoor boat (one pilots
Fiddler II while standing in a transverse slot aft, looking over a
cabin with 4 feet of headroom), and adds a box keel. Fiddler II has
long intrigued me but, insofar as I know, no plans are available,
PCB not having taken it beyond a design exercise.
As mentioned by others, Cabin Clam Skiff is close to the sharpie
form but features a River Thames 'saloon launch' cabin. Vey stylish
for a 'square boat' but lots of windage despite less-than-standing
headroom. As I go round and round considering 'next boats', CCS
regularly comes to the fore. But then come thoughts of how it might
be better. And I'm really taken aback by the lack of detail -- key
dimensions, even, and no specs sheet or materials list -- that
Bolger provides in the blueprints.
My 2 cents (Cdn).
John
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "john_fader" <johnfader@b...> wrote:
> Thanks, Nels,
>
> that is an interesting boat, but it doesn't come near to meeting
my
> requirements. First, I am not thinnking about the smallest boat
that
> can do the job, but rather a spread out accomodation that one
could
> live with permanently (while keeping overall size down to a
reasonable
> envelope). Second, the state series look of a past era is a firm
> requirement. I'd rather not live if I have to live gracelessly :-)
>
> The above is no criticism of Watervan, but rather a complaint
about my
> own peccadilloes :-)
>
> Cheers/The Fader
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To tie together a couple of threads, albeit a little tardily...
Watervan is not a sharpie, of course, but rather a further step
along an evolutionary path from Fiddler II, mentioned earlier.
Watervan is considerably larger, an all-indoor boat (one pilots
Fiddler II while standing in a transverse slot aft, looking over a
cabin with 4 feet of headroom), and adds a box keel. Fiddler II has
long intrigued me but, insofar as I know, no plans are available,
PCB not having taken it beyond a design exercise.
As mentioned by others, Cabin Clam Skiff is close to the sharpie
form but features a River Thames 'saloon launch' cabin. Vey stylish
for a 'square boat' but lots of windage despite less-than-standing
headroom. As I go round and round considering 'next boats', CCS
regularly comes to the fore. But then come thoughts of how it might
be better. And I'm really taken aback by the lack of detail -- key
dimensions, even, and no specs sheet or materials list -- that
Bolger provides in the blueprints.
My 2 cents (Cdn).
John
Watervan is not a sharpie, of course, but rather a further step
along an evolutionary path from Fiddler II, mentioned earlier.
Watervan is considerably larger, an all-indoor boat (one pilots
Fiddler II while standing in a transverse slot aft, looking over a
cabin with 4 feet of headroom), and adds a box keel. Fiddler II has
long intrigued me but, insofar as I know, no plans are available,
PCB not having taken it beyond a design exercise.
As mentioned by others, Cabin Clam Skiff is close to the sharpie
form but features a River Thames 'saloon launch' cabin. Vey stylish
for a 'square boat' but lots of windage despite less-than-standing
headroom. As I go round and round considering 'next boats', CCS
regularly comes to the fore. But then come thoughts of how it might
be better. And I'm really taken aback by the lack of detail -- key
dimensions, even, and no specs sheet or materials list -- that
Bolger provides in the blueprints.
My 2 cents (Cdn).
John
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "john_fader" <johnfader@b...> wrote:
> Thanks, Nels,
>
> that is an interesting boat, but it doesn't come near to meeting
my
> requirements. First, I am not thinnking about the smallest boat
that
> can do the job, but rather a spread out accomodation that one
could
> live with permanently (while keeping overall size down to a
reasonable
> envelope). Second, the state series look of a past era is a firm
> requirement. I'd rather not live if I have to live gracelessly :-)
>
> The above is no criticism of Watervan, but rather a complaint
about my
> own peccadilloes :-)
>
> Cheers/The Fader
See here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/files/Watervan/
for some grainy shots and line drawing.
Somewhere in either Bolger, Bolger2 or 3 there are some nicely
detailed coloue shots too.
Bruce Hector
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/files/Watervan/
for some grainy shots and line drawing.
Somewhere in either Bolger, Bolger2 or 3 there are some nicely
detailed coloue shots too.
Bruce Hector
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "john_fader" <johnfader@b...> wrote:
I was well aware that you were mocking yourself and I was chuckling
as I saw it as an opportunity to take a shot at the Aussies.
One must never be easily offended if one wishes to take part in this
group:-)
Cheers, Nels
> Nels,intention.
>
> I fear that I've offended you and that was *so far* from my
> I was, perhaps clumsily, attempting to mock my own stuffiness.Please
> forgive me any offence that I have caused.I replied to this already but it never got through.
>
> Don
I was well aware that you were mocking yourself and I was chuckling
as I saw it as an opportunity to take a shot at the Aussies.
One must never be easily offended if one wishes to take part in this
group:-)
Cheers, Nels
I once heard the half-life of a family reunion defined as that time between
when it begins and the first utterance of: "And exactly what is THAT
supposed to mean?!"
David
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From: Nels [mailto:arvent@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:40 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Watervan
when it begins and the first utterance of: "And exactly what is THAT
supposed to mean?!"
David
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From: Nels [mailto:arvent@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:40 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Watervan
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "john_fader" <johnfader@b...> wrote:
> Nels,
>
> I fear that I've offended you and that was *so far* from my
intention.
> I was, perhaps clumsily, attempting to mock my own stuffiness.
Please
> forgive me any offence that I have caused.
>
> Don
I replied to this already but it never got through.
I was well aware that you were mocking yourself and I was chuckling
as I saw it as an opportunity to take a shot at the Aussies.
One must never be easily offended if one wishes to take part in this
group:-)
Cheers, Nels
Bolger rules!!!
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "john_fader" <johnfader@b...> wrote:
Peccadillo? Had to look that one up. Thought it might be a cross
between a peccary and an armadillo (and if that ain't a misbehavior
nothing is).
Chris Stewart
> The above is no criticism of Watervan, but rather a complaint aboutmy own peccadilloes :-)
Peccadillo? Had to look that one up. Thought it might be a cross
between a peccary and an armadillo (and if that ain't a misbehavior
nothing is).
Chris Stewart
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "john_fader" <johnfader@b...> wrote:
least and was chuckling while writing my response, as I was hoping to
get a rise out of some of the Aussies:-)
I saw how you intended your comments and feel much the same way. Even
PCB&F share that to some degree. In the review they have this to say
about the Watervan:
" The effect on the scenery of a fleet of them is legitimately
arguable."
By the same token, I can see the advantages of towing one to Florida,
rather than towing a travel trailer of the same size. Not sure how
the cost of marina hook-ups compares to campground hook-ups costwise,
but it certainly gives you some wider options for camping spots!
Perhaps Bos'n Bruce could investigate this further?
Also I believe he was going to check out "Pelican" the Bantam
houseboat down there somewhere?
http://www.treasurecoasthouseboatrentals.com/
Cheers, Nels
> Nels,intention.
>
> I fear that I've offended you and that was *so far* from my
> I was, perhaps clumsily, attempting to mock my own stuffiness.Please
> forgive me any offence that I have caused.I appreciate your thoughtfullness - but I was not offended in the
>
> Don
least and was chuckling while writing my response, as I was hoping to
get a rise out of some of the Aussies:-)
I saw how you intended your comments and feel much the same way. Even
PCB&F share that to some degree. In the review they have this to say
about the Watervan:
" The effect on the scenery of a fleet of them is legitimately
arguable."
By the same token, I can see the advantages of towing one to Florida,
rather than towing a travel trailer of the same size. Not sure how
the cost of marina hook-ups compares to campground hook-ups costwise,
but it certainly gives you some wider options for camping spots!
Perhaps Bos'n Bruce could investigate this further?
Also I believe he was going to check out "Pelican" the Bantam
houseboat down there somewhere?
http://www.treasurecoasthouseboatrentals.com/
Cheers, Nels
Nels,
I fear that I've offended you and that was *so far* from my intention.
I was, perhaps clumsily, attempting to mock my own stuffiness. Please
forgive me any offence that I have caused.
Don
I fear that I've offended you and that was *so far* from my intention.
I was, perhaps clumsily, attempting to mock my own stuffiness. Please
forgive me any offence that I have caused.
Don
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@h...> wrote:
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "john_fader" <johnfader@b...> wrote:
> > Thanks, Nels,
> I'd rather not live if I have to live gracelessly :-)
> >
> > The above is no criticism of Watervan, but rather a complaint
about
> my
> > own peccadilloes :-)
> >
> > Cheers/The Fader
>
> Well you have to understand it was designed for Aussies.
>
> Nels (Wondering what that says about the Chevy van?)
--- "Nels" <arvent@h...> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/ytwf7
> Nels (Wondering what thatOr, perhaps, a 1959 Buick?
> says about the Chevy van?)
http://tinyurl.com/ytwf7
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "john_fader" <johnfader@b...> wrote:
Nels (Wondering what that says about the Chevy van?)
> Thanks, Nels,I'd rather not live if I have to live gracelessly :-)
>my
> The above is no criticism of Watervan, but rather a complaint about
> own peccadilloes :-)Well you have to understand it was designed for Aussies.
>
> Cheers/The Fader
Nels (Wondering what that says about the Chevy van?)
Thanks, Nels,
that is an interesting boat, but it doesn't come near to meeting my
requirements. First, I am not thinnking about the smallest boat that
can do the job, but rather a spread out accomodation that one could
live with permanently (while keeping overall size down to a reasonable
envelope). Second, the state series look of a past era is a firm
requirement. I'd rather not live if I have to live gracelessly :-)
The above is no criticism of Watervan, but rather a complaint about my
own peccadilloes :-)
Cheers/The Fader
that is an interesting boat, but it doesn't come near to meeting my
requirements. First, I am not thinnking about the smallest boat that
can do the job, but rather a spread out accomodation that one could
live with permanently (while keeping overall size down to a reasonable
envelope). Second, the state series look of a past era is a firm
requirement. I'd rather not live if I have to live gracelessly :-)
The above is no criticism of Watervan, but rather a complaint about my
own peccadilloes :-)
Cheers/The Fader
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Nels" <arvent@h...> wrote:
> John,
>
> Have you checked out this baby, here in the files section? I find it
> has an uncanny similarity to my LWB full-sized Chevy van and could
be
> towed with a regular flat bed trailer I would think.
>
> Seems it is the next step upwards over the CCS
>
> "Watervan"
>
> Design #632
>
> 6.92M x 2.46M (22.7 feet x 8.07 feet)
>
> This boat was designed primarily For Australian rivers and lakes,
> although
> capable of alongshore or even offshore passages in reasonable
> weather, in
> fact, she would have a better chance in heavy weather than most
small
> power
> cruisers if she was prudently handled, doors and windows secured,
> etc.
>
> The specification called for queen sized double berth, a dinette
> convertible
> to a second double berth, a comfortable helm seat and forward view
> underway
> for two or three other people, enclosed toilet room, workable
galley,
> standing headroom throughout and a cruising speed of 20 mph with as
> tittle
> wake and noise as possible, all inside the dimensions given for
> convenience
> in trailer hauling. Her owner originally proposed her to be powered
> with a
> diesel waterjet, but when the cost of the power plant became clear,
> he
> decided to settle for the 90 hp, four-stroke outboard motor which is
> also
> a good deal lighter and less intrusive on the cabin. "
John,
Have you checked out this baby, here in the files section? I find it
has an uncanny similarity to my LWB full-sized Chevy van and could be
towed with a regular flat bed trailer I would think.
Seems it is the next step upwards over the CCS
"Watervan"
Design #632
6.92M x 2.46M (22.7 feet x 8.07 feet)
This boat was designed primarily For Australian rivers and lakes,
although
capable of alongshore or even offshore passages in reasonable
weather, in
fact, she would have a better chance in heavy weather than most small
power
cruisers if she was prudently handled, doors and windows secured,
etc.
The specification called for queen sized double berth, a dinette
convertible
to a second double berth, a comfortable helm seat and forward view
underway
for two or three other people, enclosed toilet room, workable galley,
standing headroom throughout and a cruising speed of 20 mph with as
tittle
wake and noise as possible, all inside the dimensions given for
convenience
in trailer hauling. Her owner originally proposed her to be powered
with a
diesel waterjet, but when the cost of the power plant became clear,
he
decided to settle for the 90 hp, four-stroke outboard motor which is
also
a good deal lighter and less intrusive on the cabin. "
Have you checked out this baby, here in the files section? I find it
has an uncanny similarity to my LWB full-sized Chevy van and could be
towed with a regular flat bed trailer I would think.
Seems it is the next step upwards over the CCS
"Watervan"
Design #632
6.92M x 2.46M (22.7 feet x 8.07 feet)
This boat was designed primarily For Australian rivers and lakes,
although
capable of alongshore or even offshore passages in reasonable
weather, in
fact, she would have a better chance in heavy weather than most small
power
cruisers if she was prudently handled, doors and windows secured,
etc.
The specification called for queen sized double berth, a dinette
convertible
to a second double berth, a comfortable helm seat and forward view
underway
for two or three other people, enclosed toilet room, workable galley,
standing headroom throughout and a cruising speed of 20 mph with as
tittle
wake and noise as possible, all inside the dimensions given for
convenience
in trailer hauling. Her owner originally proposed her to be powered
with a
diesel waterjet, but when the cost of the power plant became clear,
he
decided to settle for the 90 hp, four-stroke outboard motor which is
also
a good deal lighter and less intrusive on the cabin. "
Has anyone got an idea of the loaded and unloaded displacement of the
Watervan?
I can't see any specs except lenght/breadth in the Files section.
Chris B.
Watervan?
I can't see any specs except lenght/breadth in the Files section.
Chris B.
The other day, while reading through some old Sunset magazines at
Michigan State University, I was stunned to see a watervan offered as a
rental in the "Houseboats" for rent section of the classifieds. It as a
rendering, not a photo, but it was from the exact same perspective as
the Bolger line drawing.
The ad was inviting us to take a Delta Van vacation on their 25' Delta
Van Cruiser. The next line read, "Developed by Anderson, Anderson, and
Fortier." Whatever than means.
It was in the Feb., '81 issue of Sunset. Page 31.
CM
http://www.angelfire.com/mi/mmmkkk/
(Last of the Red Hot DJs)
Michigan State University, I was stunned to see a watervan offered as a
rental in the "Houseboats" for rent section of the classifieds. It as a
rendering, not a photo, but it was from the exact same perspective as
the Bolger line drawing.
The ad was inviting us to take a Delta Van vacation on their 25' Delta
Van Cruiser. The next line read, "Developed by Anderson, Anderson, and
Fortier." Whatever than means.
It was in the Feb., '81 issue of Sunset. Page 31.
CM
http://www.angelfire.com/mi/mmmkkk/
(Last of the Red Hot DJs)