Re: [bolger] Fairey Battle
The only problem with US Navy aircraft is that the Navy has never
relinquished ownership of the planes. One was recovered off of Chicago and
the Navy sued the salvors. The same thing happened to the Quonset Point Air
Museum when they pulled up a Hellcat off of Nantucket. The Navy won't
salvage them and sues anyone who tries.
Just to keep on Bolger content, it should be noted that none of these
aircraft would be suitable for operations aboard the civilian carrier.
Paul W. Esterle
Capt'n Pauley Video Productions
S/V Bryn Awel, Columbia 10.7
Bristol, Tenn. USA
http://www.captnpauley.bigstep.com
relinquished ownership of the planes. One was recovered off of Chicago and
the Navy sued the salvors. The same thing happened to the Quonset Point Air
Museum when they pulled up a Hellcat off of Nantucket. The Navy won't
salvage them and sues anyone who tries.
Just to keep on Bolger content, it should be noted that none of these
aircraft would be suitable for operations aboard the civilian carrier.
Paul W. Esterle
Capt'n Pauley Video Productions
S/V Bryn Awel, Columbia 10.7
Bristol, Tenn. USA
http://www.captnpauley.bigstep.com
That is the only one of my underwater subjects that I haven't seen in
real life. There is one out there somewher but its never been found.
They raised a Harvard a few years ago and restored it to a non flying
displat bird at the local RCAF club. There's supposed to be 3 more
Harvards, a Tiger Moth or two and the Battle near here.
I was fascinated to learn how many Dauntlesses and Wildcats are in
Lake Michigan. Along with one U-Boat. The US Navy had two carriers
mased out of Chicago for pilot training during WW2. They were just
flat decks, no hangar, built on old side wheeler. One was the USS
Wolverine, can't remember the other one's name. They looked very
Bolgerwsque (finally getting on topic), form followed function.
But what I really want to find is something an old fellow told us as
we were packing our dive gear into the car on afternoon. He said,
pointing at Garden Osland, "Right out there, we had to dump a
boatload of whiskey over as we were being chased by the mounties...."
Imagine, cases of 70 year old, cold aged Canadian Whisky.
Bruce Hector
http://www.brucesboats.com
real life. There is one out there somewher but its never been found.
They raised a Harvard a few years ago and restored it to a non flying
displat bird at the local RCAF club. There's supposed to be 3 more
Harvards, a Tiger Moth or two and the Battle near here.
I was fascinated to learn how many Dauntlesses and Wildcats are in
Lake Michigan. Along with one U-Boat. The US Navy had two carriers
mased out of Chicago for pilot training during WW2. They were just
flat decks, no hangar, built on old side wheeler. One was the USS
Wolverine, can't remember the other one's name. They looked very
Bolgerwsque (finally getting on topic), form followed function.
But what I really want to find is something an old fellow told us as
we were packing our dive gear into the car on afternoon. He said,
pointing at Garden Osland, "Right out there, we had to dump a
boatload of whiskey over as we were being chased by the mounties...."
Imagine, cases of 70 year old, cold aged Canadian Whisky.
Bruce Hector
http://www.brucesboats.com
I found them with no problem. Bruce, is anyone looking at salvaging any of
the Fairly Battles? That is a rare plane at this time.
Paul
the Fairly Battles? That is a rare plane at this time.
Paul
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Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:11 AM
Subject: [bolger] (unknown)
> bruce. I was not able to find your painting at either location, they
> sound interesting. I'll try again j--- In
>bolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hector <bruce_hector@h...>"
> <bruce_hector@h...> wrote:
> > While waiting for the epoxy to cure on the gunwales of the Welsford
> > Seagull I'm strugling with I finished posting my entire portfolio
> of
> > underwater shipreck art and added a few to my Yahoo
> > profile for those who can't get to the photo section of the boat
> > exchange group to see. Yahoo makes you join the group to see the
> > photos, sorry, not my fault.
> >
> > I've dabbled all my life, but it wasn't until I dove on a shipwreck
> > that I had someting I needed to get on canvas. The visibility is
> such
> > that you can only see 10 feet at a time of a hundred foot ship. On
> > the dive boat, after that 1st. dive I sketched the wreck on the
> back
> > of a cigarette pack, and the divers were amazed. They offered
> > corrections, and the sketches got better, that weekend I made the
> > first painting. And a new hobby was born.
> >
> > Fellow divers would beg for copies, a run of T shirts was made and
> > sold in dive shops, and I even sold a few.
> >
> > I hope you like them. Now I'm painiting a few boats before they
> sink
> > and doing a few harbour scenes.
> >
> > Bruce Hector
> > See my profile for a few or visit the photo section to view them
> all
> > at
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freeboatexchange
>
>
>
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Is it from 30 odd boats? His clunkification of
Rozinante? I'm not a member over there, so I can't
tell, but that would be my guess.
Only thing is that it would benefit from modern
construction/scantlings.
See the original at Rozinante.org.
and sailplan of a bolger desigh called the Burgundy
that I've not <BR>
seen before.<BR>
<BR>
What a beauty!<BR>
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Rozinante? I'm not a member over there, so I can't
tell, but that would be my guess.
Only thing is that it would benefit from modern
construction/scantlings.
See the original at Rozinante.org.
and sailplan of a bolger desigh called the Burgundy
that I've not <BR>
seen before.<BR>
<BR>
What a beauty!<BR>
______________________________________________________________________
Find, Connect, Date!http://personals.yahoo.ca
Jules:
I would caulk with 3M 5200 and varnish the wood. I don't see where the epoxy would be of any help. On the other hand, the wood if left bare will make a much better non-skid surface. Varnishing it will make it slippery when wet.
Chuck
Hi Folks,
Question; I'm planking cockpit of a 16' sloop. The fiberglass is
pretty funky and I decided to make it easy on the eyes and butt.
My question is this; first, there is a nice even groove about 1/8th
inch deep between the planks. I wish to fill it with white calking.
Any suggestions on what kind of calking to use would be appreciated.
I plan to coat the wood with epoxy then spar varnish for UV
protection.
I uploaded a pic of the project with one seat planked. (The plugs
for the countersunk screw holes had not yet been added)
Jules Summer Project is the album in the photos section where the
pic is.
Thanks for the suggestions.
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I would caulk with 3M 5200 and varnish the wood. I don't see where the epoxy would be of any help. On the other hand, the wood if left bare will make a much better non-skid surface. Varnishing it will make it slippery when wet.
Chuck
Hi Folks,
Question; I'm planking cockpit of a 16' sloop. The fiberglass is
pretty funky and I decided to make it easy on the eyes and butt.
My question is this; first, there is a nice even groove about 1/8th
inch deep between the planks. I wish to fill it with white calking.
Any suggestions on what kind of calking to use would be appreciated.
I plan to coat the wood with epoxy then spar varnish for UV
protection.
I uploaded a pic of the project with one seat planked. (The plugs
for the countersunk screw holes had not yet been added)
Jules Summer Project is the album in the photos section where the
pic is.
Thanks for the suggestions.
Bolger rules!!!
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> Very nice! Looking forward to a complete report, i.e.,Thanks, Max. I think it is the largest. I'm planning to go up to Rend Lake
> materials and methods, etc.
>
> Maybe the largest Michalak design yet built?
>
> Wish I had a shop like that to work in.
>
>
> Max
this summer to let the designer take a gander at it.
Chuck
Jamie:
I have to agree with Peter on this one, but I think there is a distinction
that should be made: There is a difference between clamps/logs, and other
longitudinals. At a chine, or where a deck meets the hull, an angle is made
which has its own stiffness. This is true whether there is an actual piece
of lumber there, or just some tape and epoxy. A longitudinal that is found
either inside or outside the sides or bottom (or deck for that matter) of a
boat has the job (as you have described it below) of stiffening a flat area.
Chuck
I have to agree with Peter on this one, but I think there is a distinction
that should be made: There is a difference between clamps/logs, and other
longitudinals. At a chine, or where a deck meets the hull, an angle is made
which has its own stiffness. This is true whether there is an actual piece
of lumber there, or just some tape and epoxy. A longitudinal that is found
either inside or outside the sides or bottom (or deck for that matter) of a
boat has the job (as you have described it below) of stiffening a flat area.
Chuck
> Re: the remarks below, I disagree that attachment is optional. The framesonly
> give shape to the hull, keeping the sides of the boat the right distance
> apart -- the sides are usually trying to come together. If the frames
> press against the plywood skin instead of the sturdier longitudinals, thenwhich
> you're going to have unfair spots wherever the frames occur. The
> longitudinals are much stiffer than the ply, and will spread the load,
> keeping the sides fair (and stronger.) This happens even where the
> longitudinals are outside the hull, as in the elegant punt -- they still
> provide strength and fairness.
>
> Get the best fit you can between longitudinals and frames in the amount of
> time you want to spend at it, then fill any gaps with thickened epoxy,
> will help transmit the side-to-side load as well as fill any watertraps.
>
> Jamie Orr
>
> > Is it not true that the logs and clamps are
> > basically to attach the topsides to the deck and the bottom?
>
>
> But, you are right that they are not there to transfer force from the
> frames, and attachment to the frames is optional.
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
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>
>
Re: the remarks below, I disagree that attachment is optional. The frames
give shape to the hull, keeping the sides of the boat the right distance
apart -- the sides are usually trying to come together. If the frames only
press against the plywood skin instead of the sturdier longitudinals, then
you're going to have unfair spots wherever the frames occur. The
longitudinals are much stiffer than the ply, and will spread the load,
keeping the sides fair (and stronger.) This happens even where the
longitudinals are outside the hull, as in the elegant punt -- they still
provide strength and fairness.
Get the best fit you can between longitudinals and frames in the amount of
time you want to spend at it, then fill any gaps with thickened epoxy, which
will help transmit the side-to-side load as well as fill any watertraps.
Jamie Orr
frames, and attachment to the frames is optional.
give shape to the hull, keeping the sides of the boat the right distance
apart -- the sides are usually trying to come together. If the frames only
press against the plywood skin instead of the sturdier longitudinals, then
you're going to have unfair spots wherever the frames occur. The
longitudinals are much stiffer than the ply, and will spread the load,
keeping the sides fair (and stronger.) This happens even where the
longitudinals are outside the hull, as in the elegant punt -- they still
provide strength and fairness.
Get the best fit you can between longitudinals and frames in the amount of
time you want to spend at it, then fill any gaps with thickened epoxy, which
will help transmit the side-to-side load as well as fill any watertraps.
Jamie Orr
> Is it not true that the logs and clamps areBut, you are right that they are not there to transfer force from the
> basically to attach the topsides to the deck and the bottom?
frames, and attachment to the frames is optional.
For all things about light schooners, go to:
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/index.htm#menu
For information on small boats in Nova Scotia, go to:
http://fox.nstn.ca/~swbans/
Jamie Orr
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Wallace [mailto:wwostar@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 12:59 AM
To:bolger@egroups.com
Subject: [bolger] (unknown)
I have heard that there is a number of Light Schooners racing as a
one-design class in Nova Scotia. Does anyone know how to get in touch with
them?
Bill Wallace in Houston
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For information on small boats in Nova Scotia, go to:
http://fox.nstn.ca/~swbans/
Jamie Orr
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Wallace [mailto:wwostar@...]
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 12:59 AM
To:bolger@egroups.com
Subject: [bolger] (unknown)
I have heard that there is a number of Light Schooners racing as a
one-design class in Nova Scotia. Does anyone know how to get in touch with
them?
Bill Wallace in Houston
Bolger rules!!!
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