Re: Power Sharpies
The writing for MAIB with this tells a story of designer and
client in Phil's own classic style.
Thanks, Bruce. That folder is becoming quite a nice collection.
Mark
brucehector wrote:
client in Phil's own classic style.
Thanks, Bruce. That folder is becoming quite a nice collection.
Mark
brucehector wrote:
>
> "Minnestoa" is
> also now in Bolger2 in the file "Bolger Scans"..
LOL! Yes, the Pirogue goes to windward. Unfortunately, the channel on
Long Lake is narrow, and tacking outside of it puts one at risk of
collision with a half-million barely submerged rocks. As I lacked the
forethought of building a swing-up rudder and bilgeboard for Li'l'
Cobra, such a collision would have been problematic. Besides,
breaking the car's windshield had made me a bit gun-shy that week.
Btw, I lied to my insurance company about the windshield. I felt too
stupid to admit I let such a thing happen, so I told them it had been
shattered by a falling tree branch. Actually, I still feel stupid
talking about it now, so I'll just shut up,
porky
Long Lake is narrow, and tacking outside of it puts one at risk of
collision with a half-million barely submerged rocks. As I lacked the
forethought of building a swing-up rudder and bilgeboard for Li'l'
Cobra, such a collision would have been problematic. Besides,
breaking the car's windshield had made me a bit gun-shy that week.
Btw, I lied to my insurance company about the windshield. I felt too
stupid to admit I let such a thing happen, so I told them it had been
shattered by a falling tree branch. Actually, I still feel stupid
talking about it now, so I'll just shut up,
porky
--- In bolger@y..., "rnlocnil" <lincolnr@m...> wrote:
> Doesn't the Pirogue go upwind? I should think with all that ballast
> you coulda done it.
>
> BTW, my Saturn needs a new windshield. Can I carry your boat for
you?...
Doesn't the Pirogue go upwind? I should think with all that ballast
you coulda done it.
BTW, my Saturn needs a new windshield. Can I carry your boat for you?
you coulda done it.
BTW, my Saturn needs a new windshield. Can I carry your boat for you?
--- In bolger@y..., "porcupinefysh" <porcupine@d...> wrote:
> It is an inevitable rule of sailing that the wind will blow from the
> direction in which you wish to go. My kids and I learned this during
> our first long-term adventure in my 16' Pirogue. After the boat
self-
> launched into Long Lake in the Adirondacks (smashing the windshield
> of my Saturn on the way down from the roof racks), a north wind
piped
> up. It persisted for three days while we paddled slowly against it
> for the length of the lake. On the forth day, as we turned for home,
> the wind clocked around to the south. The mast, sprit and sail
> remained stashed in the boat for the entire trip. snip
It is an inevitable rule of sailing that the wind will blow from the
direction in which you wish to go. My kids and I learned this during
our first long-term adventure in my 16' Pirogue. After the boat self-
launched into Long Lake in the Adirondacks (smashing the windshield
of my Saturn on the way down from the roof racks), a north wind piped
up. It persisted for three days while we paddled slowly against it
for the length of the lake. On the forth day, as we turned for home,
the wind clocked around to the south. The mast, sprit and sail
remained stashed in the boat for the entire trip. Oh, well, at least
I got a good upper body workout. Since then I've rigged a motor
bracket for an old chainsaw-engined Cruise & Carry OB and I've found
the winds more cooperative. Alas, my sailing skills remain
rudimentary and the noisemaker gets used more often than I'd like,
porky
direction in which you wish to go. My kids and I learned this during
our first long-term adventure in my 16' Pirogue. After the boat self-
launched into Long Lake in the Adirondacks (smashing the windshield
of my Saturn on the way down from the roof racks), a north wind piped
up. It persisted for three days while we paddled slowly against it
for the length of the lake. On the forth day, as we turned for home,
the wind clocked around to the south. The mast, sprit and sail
remained stashed in the boat for the entire trip. Oh, well, at least
I got a good upper body workout. Since then I've rigged a motor
bracket for an old chainsaw-engined Cruise & Carry OB and I've found
the winds more cooperative. Alas, my sailing skills remain
rudimentary and the noisemaker gets used more often than I'd like,
porky
--- In bolger@y..., Stew Miller <junkmail@m...> wrote:
> Since I already mentioned my rugged outdoor outdoor persona, I may
as
> well tell my hardiest boating adventure. When we lived in
Lexington KY
> I wanted to float the Kentucky River. I bought the COE charts and
asked
> everyone I could find if they had floated it. No one had. I
finally
> found some kayakers pulling out in Frankfort (down stream) and
> questioned them. They told me that they had made 5 miles per hour
in
> the present flood conditions, but usually made 3 miles per hour. I
made
> plans for my wife to drop my sons and me off upstream and pick us
up two
> days later. I planned to go caving, swimming, fishing, camping
along
> the way. By putting in just below on dam and taking out just above
> another we would have just one portage per day. We shoved off,
waved
> goodbye to my wife, and were off.
>
> But soon the current slowed to nil (it had been swift below the
dam).
> Checking my charts, I calculated we were making about 1 mile per
hour.
> I had overlooked two important facts. 1- the Kentucky is a string
of
> lakes formed by the dams. 2- the kayakers had made 3 mph because
they
> were paddling, not floating!
>
> No problem. I hooked up the electric trolling motor and off we
went.
> We stopped for a little caving and a hot lunch, then camped on a
nice
> sand bar that evening. It was a beautiful fall day. The next
morning
> brought clouds and high winds. The battery was used up. And we
hadn't
> reached the first dam yet. We started rowing. The Kentucky River
has
> cut a canyon in the limestone approximately 100 feet deep. The
wind was
> howling down the canyon and causing white caps, and we were going
> against it. I kept telling the boys that when we rounded the next
bend
> the wind would be behind us and I would rig a sail, but it didn't
work
> that way. The best we got was a few calm stretches between the
blasts.
> I rigged a rudder on the motor out of a large piece of plastic so
the
> oarsman wouldn't have to steer, just row. We took turns rowing. I
> wouldn't let the boys stop to do the fun things I had promised,
only for
> a quick lunch. We made the first dam in time to call my wife and
give
> her the new pickup location. The boys were pretty disappointed and
very
> tired. I bought an outboard moter the next week.
>
> So that I say on topic: And that's why I'm going to build a power
sharpie.
>
> Not so rugged anymore...
This guy was seriously tough. He continued on across the Canadian
shield, down the Mackenzie, up the Peel, down the Porcupine and Yukon
and on around the coast of Norton Sound to Nome, which is where I met
him.
He was (and is) hard in a way the old frontiersmen were in mind, body
and endurance, but not in his soul.
HJ
shield, down the Mackenzie, up the Peel, down the Porcupine and Yukon
and on around the coast of Norton Sound to Nome, which is where I met
him.
He was (and is) hard in a way the old frontiersmen were in mind, body
and endurance, but not in his soul.
HJ
> >I had a friend who paddled a canoe from New Orleans all the way up the
> Mississippi.
>
> Up?! I've dreamt of throwing a canoe in the nearest creek and heading
> DOWN to New Orleans ever since I discovered maps in Boy Scouts. And
> there are several books on my to-read list by guys who took canoes all
> the way down the Mississippi. But I never considered paddling UP it.
> Maybe if I can twenty oarsmen like Lewis and Clark.
>
> Stew
>
>
You won't need a lot of speed to go up the Mississippi, or any other
river navigatable by commercial shipping. Those tugs, tows and barges
can't break 10 knots and they make it all the way.
What you do need, is endurance. Larger fuel, water and food capacity
to push upstream from marina to marina, which can be 100 miles or
more apart on the Miss.
Bruce Hector
www.brucesboats.com
river navigatable by commercial shipping. Those tugs, tows and barges
can't break 10 knots and they make it all the way.
What you do need, is endurance. Larger fuel, water and food capacity
to push upstream from marina to marina, which can be 100 miles or
more apart on the Miss.
Bruce Hector
www.brucesboats.com
You can do a lot playing the back eddies and such. I had a friend who
paddled a canoe from New Orleans all the way up the Mississippi.
HJ
paddled a canoe from New Orleans all the way up the Mississippi.
HJ
>
> The Minnesota article raises a point that I've pondered often - getting
> back up that swift Missouri. I'm thinking that a high-thrust 25 or
> 50hp sounds about right for hull speed cruising at half throttle, and
> having something in reserve. But hull speed against that current will
> be very slow. I'm hoping that the shallow draft that allows folks to
> find the best anchorages and to get outside the busy channels, will also
> let me keep out of strongest part of the current. (Imagine the tow
> captains thoughts as I pass him on the inside of a big bend :) I may
> need more horsepower, but well, we'll see.
>
Since I already mentioned my rugged outdoor outdoor persona, I may as
well tell my hardiest boating adventure. When we lived in Lexington KY
I wanted to float the Kentucky River. I bought the COE charts and asked
everyone I could find if they had floated it. No one had. I finally
found some kayakers pulling out in Frankfort (down stream) and
questioned them. They told me that they had made 5 miles per hour in
the present flood conditions, but usually made 3 miles per hour. I made
plans for my wife to drop my sons and me off upstream and pick us up two
days later. I planned to go caving, swimming, fishing, camping along
the way. By putting in just below on dam and taking out just above
another we would have just one portage per day. We shoved off, waved
goodbye to my wife, and were off.
But soon the current slowed to nil (it had been swift below the dam).
Checking my charts, I calculated we were making about 1 mile per hour.
I had overlooked two important facts. 1- the Kentucky is a string of
lakes formed by the dams. 2- the kayakers had made 3 mph because they
were paddling, not floating!
No problem. I hooked up the electric trolling motor and off we went.
We stopped for a little caving and a hot lunch, then camped on a nice
sand bar that evening. It was a beautiful fall day. The next morning
brought clouds and high winds. The battery was used up. And we hadn't
reached the first dam yet. We started rowing. The Kentucky River has
cut a canyon in the limestone approximately 100 feet deep. The wind was
howling down the canyon and causing white caps, and we were going
against it. I kept telling the boys that when we rounded the next bend
the wind would be behind us and I would rig a sail, but it didn't work
that way. The best we got was a few calm stretches between the blasts.
I rigged a rudder on the motor out of a large piece of plastic so the
oarsman wouldn't have to steer, just row. We took turns rowing. I
wouldn't let the boys stop to do the fun things I had promised, only for
a quick lunch. We made the first dam in time to call my wife and give
her the new pickup location. The boys were pretty disappointed and very
tired. I bought an outboard moter the next week.
So that I say on topic: And that's why I'm going to build a power sharpie.
Not so rugged anymore,
Stew Miller
KC MO
going to float the Missouri this spring
Harry W. James wrote:
well tell my hardiest boating adventure. When we lived in Lexington KY
I wanted to float the Kentucky River. I bought the COE charts and asked
everyone I could find if they had floated it. No one had. I finally
found some kayakers pulling out in Frankfort (down stream) and
questioned them. They told me that they had made 5 miles per hour in
the present flood conditions, but usually made 3 miles per hour. I made
plans for my wife to drop my sons and me off upstream and pick us up two
days later. I planned to go caving, swimming, fishing, camping along
the way. By putting in just below on dam and taking out just above
another we would have just one portage per day. We shoved off, waved
goodbye to my wife, and were off.
But soon the current slowed to nil (it had been swift below the dam).
Checking my charts, I calculated we were making about 1 mile per hour.
I had overlooked two important facts. 1- the Kentucky is a string of
lakes formed by the dams. 2- the kayakers had made 3 mph because they
were paddling, not floating!
No problem. I hooked up the electric trolling motor and off we went.
We stopped for a little caving and a hot lunch, then camped on a nice
sand bar that evening. It was a beautiful fall day. The next morning
brought clouds and high winds. The battery was used up. And we hadn't
reached the first dam yet. We started rowing. The Kentucky River has
cut a canyon in the limestone approximately 100 feet deep. The wind was
howling down the canyon and causing white caps, and we were going
against it. I kept telling the boys that when we rounded the next bend
the wind would be behind us and I would rig a sail, but it didn't work
that way. The best we got was a few calm stretches between the blasts.
I rigged a rudder on the motor out of a large piece of plastic so the
oarsman wouldn't have to steer, just row. We took turns rowing. I
wouldn't let the boys stop to do the fun things I had promised, only for
a quick lunch. We made the first dam in time to call my wife and give
her the new pickup location. The boys were pretty disappointed and very
tired. I bought an outboard moter the next week.
So that I say on topic: And that's why I'm going to build a power sharpie.
Not so rugged anymore,
Stew Miller
KC MO
going to float the Missouri this spring
Harry W. James wrote:
> This guy was seriously tough. He continued on across the Canadian
> shield, down the Mackenzie, up the Peel, down the Porcupine and Yukon
> and on around the coast of Norton Sound to Nome, which is where I met
> him.
>
Harry W. James wrote:
describes the current in the lower Mississippi as very swift, but in a
narrow and fluctuating location. His description reminded me of the Jet
Stream in the atmosphere. He reported seeing a tow stuck in one place
for 1/2 hour until the current shifted and it was able to continue
upstream. The tows don't have the option of leaving the main channel
like us shoal draft guys ;)
Up?! I've dreamt of throwing a canoe in the nearest creek and heading
DOWN to New Orleans ever since I discovered maps in Boy Scouts. And
there are several books on my to-read list by guys who took canoes all
the way down the Mississippi. But I never considered paddling UP it.
Maybe if I can twenty oarsmen like Lewis and Clark.
Stew
>You can do a lot playing the back eddies and such.In his book Shanty Boat, the author (who's name I can't remember)
describes the current in the lower Mississippi as very swift, but in a
narrow and fluctuating location. His description reminded me of the Jet
Stream in the atmosphere. He reported seeing a tow stuck in one place
for 1/2 hour until the current shifted and it was able to continue
upstream. The tows don't have the option of leaving the main channel
like us shoal draft guys ;)
>I had a friend who paddled a canoe from New Orleans all the way up theMississippi.
Up?! I've dreamt of throwing a canoe in the nearest creek and heading
DOWN to New Orleans ever since I discovered maps in Boy Scouts. And
there are several books on my to-read list by guys who took canoes all
the way down the Mississippi. But I never considered paddling UP it.
Maybe if I can twenty oarsmen like Lewis and Clark.
Stew
> I had a sense of dejavu when I looked at the scan you placed inI guess I will have to rent the movie, and see for myself - thanks for the
> the vault. I had watched the movie "The Guns of Navarone" a couple of
> nights ago, and the boat the stars use to escape after their mission
> looks remarkably like
> the PHC drawing. I guess inspiration comes from everywhere.
tip
Chuck
"chuck leinweber" <duckwork-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=855
the vault. I had watched the movie "The Guns of Navarone" a couple of
nights ago, and the boat the stars use to escape after their mission
looks remarkably like
the PHC drawing. I guess inspiration comes from everywhere.
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=855
> Don and Fritz:into the
>
> I have uploaded a scan of Bolger's Power Sharpie from the old SBJ
> vault area. Look in the folder labeled " Power Sharpies" If anyonewants,
> I can try to OCR the text and include that.I had a sense of dejavu when I looked at the scan you placed in
>
> Chuck
>
>
> Duckworks Magazine
>http://www.hilconet.com/~dworksmg
> Chuck,
the vault. I had watched the movie "The Guns of Navarone" a couple of
nights ago, and the boat the stars use to escape after their mission
looks remarkably like
the PHC drawing. I guess inspiration comes from everywhere.
>
>
Thanks Chuck,
This is nice but a bit confined for the Gulf coast - it's HOT here in
summer. I like the paint job, though - my white paper model looks a bit
chunky, and that gunwale stripe would help.
Don Hodges
dhodges@...
http://www.ecoastlife.com
Your Cyber-Vacation - Loafing on the Emerald Coast
Small Boats, Building, Fishing, Paddling, Rowing, Sailing
This is nice but a bit confined for the Gulf coast - it's HOT here in
summer. I like the paint job, though - my white paper model looks a bit
chunky, and that gunwale stripe would help.
Don Hodges
dhodges@...
http://www.ecoastlife.com
Your Cyber-Vacation - Loafing on the Emerald Coast
Small Boats, Building, Fishing, Paddling, Rowing, Sailing
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Leinweber <duckworks@...>
To: <bolger@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 8:55 AM
Subject: [bolger] Power Sharpies
> Don and Fritz:
>
> I have uploaded a scan of Bolger's Power Sharpie from the old SBJ into the
> vault area. Look in the folder labeled " Power Sharpies" If anyone
wants,
> I can try to OCR the text and include that.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> Duckworks Magazine
>http://www.hilconet.com/~dworksmg
>
>
>
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Don and Fritz:
I have uploaded a scan of Bolger's Power Sharpie from the old SBJ into the
vault area. Look in the folder labeled " Power Sharpies" If anyone wants,
I can try to OCR the text and include that.
Chuck
Duckworks Magazine
http://www.hilconet.com/~dworksmg
I have uploaded a scan of Bolger's Power Sharpie from the old SBJ into the
vault area. Look in the folder labeled " Power Sharpies" If anyone wants,
I can try to OCR the text and include that.
Chuck
Duckworks Magazine
http://www.hilconet.com/~dworksmg