[bolger] Re: Fw: more power sharpies
Capt. Orrell's plans are available from Harold Payson.
He sells them under the name of "Down East Dories".He
advertises in MAIB under that name. The mailing address
is: Down East Dories
Pleasant Beach Rd.
South Thomaston, ME
04858
It's $3.00 for the plans packet.
rlund-@...wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=879
He sells them under the name of "Down East Dories".He
advertises in MAIB under that name. The mailing address
is: Down East Dories
Pleasant Beach Rd.
South Thomaston, ME
04858
It's $3.00 for the plans packet.
rlund-@...wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=879
> Don and Chuck:I'll
>
> Some of the latest scans in the Vault are starting to look alot like
> Jim Michalak's AF4 model that he detailed the building of in his
> newsletter in early 1999 (?).
>
> Also, does anyone know what happenned to all the plans that used to be
> offered through Capt. Jim Orrell in Galveston? I had the plans packet
> from way back, but can't seem to find it anywhere. There were a bunch
> of "Square-tailed dories" like sharp-shooter that were called Power
> Sampans in the plans kit. We know Phil B. did the light dory and had
> contact with Orrell. Wonder if he retained rights to any of the
> "square-tailed dories" he mentions he has done "over and over"?
>
> Robert Lundy
>
> "donald hodges" <dhodge-@...> wrote:
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=876
> > PS to my earlier msg on Sharpshooter - this hull is stiffened
> enormously by
> > the full deck, you will need some ribs and floors where it is not
> decked.
> >
> > Don Hodges
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Donald Hodges <dhodges@...>
> > To: <bolger@egroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 11:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: [bolger] more power sharpies
> >
> >
> > > Chuck,
> > >
> > > I think you are on to something with Sharpshooter - it's basically
> where I
> > > started with the 4-footer. I want more freeboard than 24 inches
> forward,
> > > but my latest effort has 24 inch sides for the aft 12 feet, and
> > > probably wind up with 5 feet or so beam on the bottom panel, foris
> more
> > space
> > > in the cuddy. This bottom comes out of 4x12 scarfed panels cut
> crosswise
> > to
> > > 4x6 - (it just takes more of them, or accept the scrap from 4x8's,
> even
> > > more).
> > >
> > > The basic idea of bending the panels to form the flare and rocker
> > > definitely the way to go. I have run several more complex shapes
> through
> > > Gregg's Hulls calcs, and they just don't give enough advantages to
> justify
> > > the complexity. These flat bottom skiffs will pound your eyes out
> if
> > > pushed, but they are not bad if you are willing to accept hull
> speed in
> > > rough chop.
> > >
> > > Don Hodges
> > >
> >
>
I think the AF4 is a "2-sheeter" (16 feet long on the bottom). We are
trying for a 3-sheeter... at 23 feet on deck, I don't think I can use the
slot-top cabin because I need the stiffening of the deck/cabin. Aft, it
will probably be a 6- or 8-inch high self-bailing cockpit deck to stiffen
the sides and provide flotation.
At this point it's just scissors and Scotch tape, anyway. Maybe someone
will suggest a similar design. I don't mind buying plans (anybody want my
unbuilt "Tennessee" plans?), I just haven't seen the right design yet.
And, two of my daughters just announced wedding plans for spring 2000, so my
time/money may be crimped considerably for a bit!
Meanwhile, the chine logs went on the 12-footer today, maybe the bottom
tomorrow, and we'll start our luan/paraply tests later in the week.
Don Hodges
trying for a 3-sheeter... at 23 feet on deck, I don't think I can use the
slot-top cabin because I need the stiffening of the deck/cabin. Aft, it
will probably be a 6- or 8-inch high self-bailing cockpit deck to stiffen
the sides and provide flotation.
At this point it's just scissors and Scotch tape, anyway. Maybe someone
will suggest a similar design. I don't mind buying plans (anybody want my
unbuilt "Tennessee" plans?), I just haven't seen the right design yet.
And, two of my daughters just announced wedding plans for spring 2000, so my
time/money may be crimped considerably for a bit!
Meanwhile, the chine logs went on the 12-footer today, maybe the bottom
tomorrow, and we'll start our luan/paraply tests later in the week.
Don Hodges
----- Original Message -----
From: <rlundy@...>
To: <bolger@...>
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 10:13 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Fw: more power sharpies
> Don and Chuck:
>
> Some of the latest scans in the Vault are starting to look alot like
> Jim Michalak's AF4 model that he detailed the building of in his
> newsletter in early 1999 (?).
>
> Also, does anyone know what happenned to all the plans that used to be
> offered through Capt. Jim Orrell in Galveston? I had the plans packet
> from way back, but can't seem to find it anywhere. There were a bunch
> of "Square-tailed dories" like sharp-shooter that were called Power
> Sampans in the plans kit. We know Phil B. did the light dory and had
> contact with Orrell. Wonder if he retained rights to any of the
> "square-tailed dories" he mentions he has done "over and over"?
>
> Robert Lundy
>
> "donald hodges" <dhodge-@...> wrote:
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=876
> > PS to my earlier msg on Sharpshooter - this hull is stiffened
> enormously by
> > the full deck, you will need some ribs and floors where it is not
> decked.
> >
> > Don Hodges
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Donald Hodges <dhodges@...>
> > To: <bolger@egroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 11:11 PM
> > Subject: Re: [bolger] more power sharpies
> >
> >
> > > Chuck,
> > >
> > > I think you are on to something with Sharpshooter - it's basically
> where I
> > > started with the 4-footer. I want more freeboard than 24 inches
> forward,
> > > but my latest effort has 24 inch sides for the aft 12 feet, and I'll
> > > probably wind up with 5 feet or so beam on the bottom panel, for
> more
> > space
> > > in the cuddy. This bottom comes out of 4x12 scarfed panels cut
> crosswise
> > to
> > > 4x6 - (it just takes more of them, or accept the scrap from 4x8's,
> even
> > > more).
> > >
> > > The basic idea of bending the panels to form the flare and rocker is
> > > definitely the way to go. I have run several more complex shapes
> through
> > > Gregg's Hulls calcs, and they just don't give enough advantages to
> justify
> > > the complexity. These flat bottom skiffs will pound your eyes out
> if
> > > pushed, but they are not bad if you are willing to accept hull
> speed in
> > > rough chop.
> > >
> > > Don Hodges
> > >
> >
>
>
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Don and Chuck:
Some of the latest scans in the Vault are starting to look alot like
Jim Michalak's AF4 model that he detailed the building of in his
newsletter in early 1999 (?).
Also, does anyone know what happenned to all the plans that used to be
offered through Capt. Jim Orrell in Galveston? I had the plans packet
from way back, but can't seem to find it anywhere. There were a bunch
of "Square-tailed dories" like sharp-shooter that were called Power
Sampans in the plans kit. We know Phil B. did the light dory and had
contact with Orrell. Wonder if he retained rights to any of the
"square-tailed dories" he mentions he has done "over and over"?
Robert Lundy
"donald hodges" <dhodge-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=876
Some of the latest scans in the Vault are starting to look alot like
Jim Michalak's AF4 model that he detailed the building of in his
newsletter in early 1999 (?).
Also, does anyone know what happenned to all the plans that used to be
offered through Capt. Jim Orrell in Galveston? I had the plans packet
from way back, but can't seem to find it anywhere. There were a bunch
of "Square-tailed dories" like sharp-shooter that were called Power
Sampans in the plans kit. We know Phil B. did the light dory and had
contact with Orrell. Wonder if he retained rights to any of the
"square-tailed dories" he mentions he has done "over and over"?
Robert Lundy
"donald hodges" <dhodge-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/bolger/?start=876
> PS to my earlier msg on Sharpshooter - this hull is stiffenedenormously by
> the full deck, you will need some ribs and floors where it is notdecked.
>where I
> Don Hodges
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Donald Hodges <dhodges@...>
> To: <bolger@egroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 11:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [bolger] more power sharpies
>
>
> > Chuck,
> >
> > I think you are on to something with Sharpshooter - it's basically
> > started with the 4-footer. I want more freeboard than 24 inchesforward,
> > but my latest effort has 24 inch sides for the aft 12 feet, and I'llmore
> > probably wind up with 5 feet or so beam on the bottom panel, for
> spacecrosswise
> > in the cuddy. This bottom comes out of 4x12 scarfed panels cut
> toeven
> > 4x6 - (it just takes more of them, or accept the scrap from 4x8's,
> > more).through
> >
> > The basic idea of bending the panels to form the flare and rocker is
> > definitely the way to go. I have run several more complex shapes
> > Gregg's Hulls calcs, and they just don't give enough advantages tojustify
> > the complexity. These flat bottom skiffs will pound your eyes outif
> > pushed, but they are not bad if you are willing to accept hullspeed in
> > rough chop.
> >
> > Don Hodges
> >
>
PS to my earlier msg on Sharpshooter - this hull is stiffened enormously by
the full deck, you will need some ribs and floors where it is not decked.
Don Hodges
the full deck, you will need some ribs and floors where it is not decked.
Don Hodges
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald Hodges <dhodges@...>
To: <bolger@egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] more power sharpies
> Chuck,
>
> I think you are on to something with Sharpshooter - it's basically where I
> started with the 4-footer. I want more freeboard than 24 inches forward,
> but my latest effort has 24 inch sides for the aft 12 feet, and I'll
> probably wind up with 5 feet or so beam on the bottom panel, for more
space
> in the cuddy. This bottom comes out of 4x12 scarfed panels cut crosswise
to
> 4x6 - (it just takes more of them, or accept the scrap from 4x8's, even
> more).
>
> The basic idea of bending the panels to form the flare and rocker is
> definitely the way to go. I have run several more complex shapes through
> Gregg's Hulls calcs, and they just don't give enough advantages to justify
> the complexity. These flat bottom skiffs will pound your eyes out if
> pushed, but they are not bad if you are willing to accept hull speed in
> rough chop.
>
> Don Hodges
>