[bolger] Re: Topaz and help!!!!
I think this taping upside down can go pretty well if you do most of the wet
work before you start working upside down. Paint resin onto your joint the
width of your tape. Cut your tape into manageable lengths (36 to 48
inches), make a shallow tray or just use a piece of scrap a bit longer/wider
than your tape, wet out the tape in this tray on a table. Roll up the wet
tape and take it to the work, then unroll and place it by hand, smoothing it
with your (double-gloved) fingers. Overlap the ends of the tape an inch or
so, start from the stern if you are concerned about the tape ends being
picked up by waterflow or trailer bunks later. Using the tray conserves
resin and enables you to thoroughly wet out the tape in a comfortable
position. After the first piece of tape, the wet-out gets easier as gravity
is helping you bed the tape in the tray. Also, working in shorter pieces
breaks up the time spent prone. If you need to do something dry with your
hands, just strip off one layer of glove, complete the task, and re-glove to
resume handling the wet tape.
Forgive me if this detail is just repeating what you know, but sometimes we
get locked in on wetting out glass in place when it's not really necessary.
Don Hodges
dhodges@...
http://www.ecoastlife.com
Your Cyber-Vacation - Loafing on the Emerald Coast
Small Boats, Building, Fishing, Paddling, Rowing, Sailing
work before you start working upside down. Paint resin onto your joint the
width of your tape. Cut your tape into manageable lengths (36 to 48
inches), make a shallow tray or just use a piece of scrap a bit longer/wider
than your tape, wet out the tape in this tray on a table. Roll up the wet
tape and take it to the work, then unroll and place it by hand, smoothing it
with your (double-gloved) fingers. Overlap the ends of the tape an inch or
so, start from the stern if you are concerned about the tape ends being
picked up by waterflow or trailer bunks later. Using the tray conserves
resin and enables you to thoroughly wet out the tape in a comfortable
position. After the first piece of tape, the wet-out gets easier as gravity
is helping you bed the tape in the tray. Also, working in shorter pieces
breaks up the time spent prone. If you need to do something dry with your
hands, just strip off one layer of glove, complete the task, and re-glove to
resume handling the wet tape.
Forgive me if this detail is just repeating what you know, but sometimes we
get locked in on wetting out glass in place when it's not really necessary.
Don Hodges
dhodges@...
http://www.ecoastlife.com
Your Cyber-Vacation - Loafing on the Emerald Coast
Small Boats, Building, Fishing, Paddling, Rowing, Sailing
----- Original Message -----
From: <sailormon@...>
To: <bolger@...>
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 5:39 AM
Subject: [bolger] Topaz and help!!!!
> For those who don't know. This boat is built from the bottom up. All
> the pics show this I have sent in. Did you notice that low ceiling?
> When everything is inside is glassed securely, the boat is to be rolled
> up and over 80 degrees so the the seam at the bottom can be taped.
> If I do this in this shop, I will be forced to tape upside down while
> laying on my back as the bottom can be lifted only about 2 ft at best.
> My experience doing this in the past was frustrating at best, as
> gravity usually won. Vacuum bagging came to mind, but I do not have
> that equipment. Any suggestions from anyone with this experience
> would be really appreciated as I really would like to get on with this
> part of the job. Otherwise, I may have to wait until spring, drag it
> out and do it when the sun shines. I do live in Northern Mi where
> there is a long wait for warm wheather.....Brad
>
>
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I've never tried this (blanket disclaimer), but here's an idea...
Use thumbtacks at the sides of the tape to keep it tight and touching the
chines (this will be tedious, I have no doubt). Then fill the weave in the
middle of the tape with epoxy and let it set up until almost dry, then pull
the tacks and brush epoxy into the edges.
I had this idea when thinking about trying to glass the sides of my
Windsprint (which I decised not to do)
Robert Lundy
St. Petersburg, Fla.
Use thumbtacks at the sides of the tape to keep it tight and touching the
chines (this will be tedious, I have no doubt). Then fill the weave in the
middle of the tape with epoxy and let it set up until almost dry, then pull
the tacks and brush epoxy into the edges.
I had this idea when thinking about trying to glass the sides of my
Windsprint (which I decised not to do)
Robert Lundy
St. Petersburg, Fla.
> -----Original Message-----
> From:sailormon@...[mailto:sailormon@...]
> Sent: 15 November, 1999 6:39 AM
> To:bolger@egroups.com
> Subject: [bolger] Topaz and help!!!!
>
>
> For those who don't know. This boat is built from the bottom up. All
> the pics show this I have sent in. Did you notice that low ceiling?
> When everything is inside is glassed securely, the boat is to be rolled
> up and over 80 degrees so the the seam at the bottom can be taped.
> If I do this in this shop, I will be forced to tape upside down while
> laying on my back as the bottom can be lifted only about 2 ft at best.
> My experience doing this in the past was frustrating at best, as
> gravity usually won. Vacuum bagging came to mind, but I do not have
> that equipment. Any suggestions from anyone with this experience
> would be really appreciated as I really would like to get on with this
> part of the job. Otherwise, I may have to wait until spring, drag it
> out and do it when the sun shines. I do live in Northern Mi where
> there is a long wait for warm wheather.....Brad
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> A shopperÂ’s dream come true! Find practically anything on earth at eBay!
> Come and browse the more than 2 million items up for bid at any time.
> You never know what you might find at eBay!
>http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/1140
>
> -- Check out your group's private Chat room
> --http://www.egroups.com/ChatPage?listName=bolger&m=1
>
>
For those who don't know. This boat is built from the bottom up. All
the pics show this I have sent in. Did you notice that low ceiling?
When everything is inside is glassed securely, the boat is to be rolled
up and over 80 degrees so the the seam at the bottom can be taped.
If I do this in this shop, I will be forced to tape upside down while
laying on my back as the bottom can be lifted only about 2 ft at best.
My experience doing this in the past was frustrating at best, as
gravity usually won. Vacuum bagging came to mind, but I do not have
that equipment. Any suggestions from anyone with this experience
would be really appreciated as I really would like to get on with this
part of the job. Otherwise, I may have to wait until spring, drag it
out and do it when the sun shines. I do live in Northern Mi where
there is a long wait for warm wheather.....Brad
the pics show this I have sent in. Did you notice that low ceiling?
When everything is inside is glassed securely, the boat is to be rolled
up and over 80 degrees so the the seam at the bottom can be taped.
If I do this in this shop, I will be forced to tape upside down while
laying on my back as the bottom can be lifted only about 2 ft at best.
My experience doing this in the past was frustrating at best, as
gravity usually won. Vacuum bagging came to mind, but I do not have
that equipment. Any suggestions from anyone with this experience
would be really appreciated as I really would like to get on with this
part of the job. Otherwise, I may have to wait until spring, drag it
out and do it when the sun shines. I do live in Northern Mi where
there is a long wait for warm wheather.....Brad