Re: [bolger] Re: Building Bolger's "BEE"
I would also be interested in learning more about Super Bee, though I had
just about made up my mind to" build a boat to the drawings" once. Clyde
Bruce wrote:CSD newsletter in the envelope. The address of the fellow in
Virginia
just about made up my mind to" build a boat to the drawings" once. Clyde
Bruce wrote:CSD newsletter in the envelope. The address of the fellow in
Virginia
> who built the stretched BEE, is listed. I'm going to write to him
> after the hoidays and see if he'll provide some more info and
> possibly photos of his handiwork. In the lengthened version, BEE or
> SUPER-BEE as Wolfard called it, would seem to be an excellent fishing
> platform.
> HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL !!!!
>
> Bruce Beckwith
> > Bolger rules!!!
> > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
> > - no flogging dead horses
> > - add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
> > - stay on topic and punctuate
> > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
> - no flogging dead horses
> - add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
> - stay on topic and punctuate
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, "MANACC" <manacc@x> wrote:
out my copy of the plans I got from CSD and found a copy of the old
CSD newsletter in the envelope. The address of the fellow in Virginia
who built the stretched BEE, is listed. I'm going to write to him
after the hoidays and see if he'll provide some more info and
possibly photos of his handiwork. In the lengthened version, BEE or
SUPER-BEE as Wolfard called it, would seem to be an excellent fishing
platform.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL !!!!
Bruce Beckwith
> Greetings... it would be great to have them posted in the 'files'section of
> the list!I'll second that! After the recent posts regarding BEE, I dug
> Jeremy Cooper
> Fu-T'ien, Mana, New Zealand
out my copy of the plans I got from CSD and found a copy of the old
CSD newsletter in the envelope. The address of the fellow in Virginia
who built the stretched BEE, is listed. I'm going to write to him
after the hoidays and see if he'll provide some more info and
possibly photos of his handiwork. In the lengthened version, BEE or
SUPER-BEE as Wolfard called it, would seem to be an excellent fishing
platform.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL !!!!
Bruce Beckwith
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
> - no flogging dead horses
> - add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
> - stay on topic and punctuate
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
Greetings... it would be great to have them posted in the 'files' section of
the list! I am considering a Bee myself.
Jeremy Cooper
Fu-T'ien, Mana, New Zealand
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Magen [mailto:quahog@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 10:15 AM
To:bolger@egroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Building Bolger's "BEE"
A year or so ago I built a "BEE" from plans I obtained from Bernie
Wolfard.. In my discussions with him, raising the sheer 4 inches was
also mentioned. The reason for doing so was very logical; depending on
the PRIMARY usage of the boat.
Typically a tender, or other 7 foot boat would use oars or a 1 - 2 hp
electric or gas o/b. HOWEVER . . . YES it is a waterborne 'saddle with
an engine' when you get up to the 'max. motor weight of 60 pounds'
category. {That is how it is rated on the plans, with a note about 5 hp
. . . obviously before today's lighter weight motors . . . I've seen
9.9hp at that weight} The 'process' is that at slow speeds the
'sponsons' support the mass of the load. As speed increases, she 'gets
up on plane' and 'ski's' on the full length footwell, or 'step'. All
well and good, very exciting, and proved the concept for an entire
series of designs. The 'problem' comes when you want to STOP !!
Any square sterned, flat run aft, powerboat 'drags' her sternwave. With
the multiple factors involved with the hull-form & low sheer of BEE, you
have to think AHEAD and slow down gently. Ease off on the throttle and
allow the hull to 'sink' to it's waterline. IF you suddenly 'CHOP' the
throttle, she will VERY QUICKLY 'Drop of plane' and the stern wave will
overtake and 'poop' you . . . water coming over the stern and LOWER
SIDES. By adding 4 inches to the sheer, this problem will be somewhat
reduced.
When I was building her I took pictures as I went along, I also wrote
about the 'experience' in a 'diary format'. I had spoken to Bob Hicks
about publishing it; he promised to several times but I never saw it.
And one day the pictures just showed up in the mail. I'm thinking of
sending it to Chuck at 'Duckworks Magazine'. [It runs to 25 pages . . .
I don't want to fill up the List's bandwidth]
Suggestions? Comments?
Regards,
Ron Magen
Bolger rules!!!
- no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
- no flogging dead horses
- add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
- stay on topic and punctuate
- add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
the list! I am considering a Bee myself.
Jeremy Cooper
Fu-T'ien, Mana, New Zealand
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Magen [mailto:quahog@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 10:15 AM
To:bolger@egroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Building Bolger's "BEE"
A year or so ago I built a "BEE" from plans I obtained from Bernie
Wolfard.. In my discussions with him, raising the sheer 4 inches was
also mentioned. The reason for doing so was very logical; depending on
the PRIMARY usage of the boat.
Typically a tender, or other 7 foot boat would use oars or a 1 - 2 hp
electric or gas o/b. HOWEVER . . . YES it is a waterborne 'saddle with
an engine' when you get up to the 'max. motor weight of 60 pounds'
category. {That is how it is rated on the plans, with a note about 5 hp
. . . obviously before today's lighter weight motors . . . I've seen
9.9hp at that weight} The 'process' is that at slow speeds the
'sponsons' support the mass of the load. As speed increases, she 'gets
up on plane' and 'ski's' on the full length footwell, or 'step'. All
well and good, very exciting, and proved the concept for an entire
series of designs. The 'problem' comes when you want to STOP !!
Any square sterned, flat run aft, powerboat 'drags' her sternwave. With
the multiple factors involved with the hull-form & low sheer of BEE, you
have to think AHEAD and slow down gently. Ease off on the throttle and
allow the hull to 'sink' to it's waterline. IF you suddenly 'CHOP' the
throttle, she will VERY QUICKLY 'Drop of plane' and the stern wave will
overtake and 'poop' you . . . water coming over the stern and LOWER
SIDES. By adding 4 inches to the sheer, this problem will be somewhat
reduced.
When I was building her I took pictures as I went along, I also wrote
about the 'experience' in a 'diary format'. I had spoken to Bob Hicks
about publishing it; he promised to several times but I never saw it.
And one day the pictures just showed up in the mail. I'm thinking of
sending it to Chuck at 'Duckworks Magazine'. [It runs to 25 pages . . .
I don't want to fill up the List's bandwidth]
Suggestions? Comments?
Regards,
Ron Magen
Bolger rules!!!
- no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
- no flogging dead horses
- add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
- stay on topic and punctuate
- add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
A year or so ago I built a "BEE" from plans I obtained from Bernie
Wolfard.. In my discussions with him, raising the sheer 4 inches was
also mentioned. The reason for doing so was very logical; depending on
the PRIMARY usage of the boat.
Typically a tender, or other 7 foot boat would use oars or a 1 - 2 hp
electric or gas o/b. HOWEVER . . . YES it is a waterborne 'saddle with
an engine' when you get up to the 'max. motor weight of 60 pounds'
category. {That is how it is rated on the plans, with a note about 5 hp
. . . obviously before today's lighter weight motors . . . I've seen
9.9hp at that weight} The 'process' is that at slow speeds the
'sponsons' support the mass of the load. As speed increases, she 'gets
up on plane' and 'ski's' on the full length footwell, or 'step'. All
well and good, very exciting, and proved the concept for an entire
series of designs. The 'problem' comes when you want to STOP !!
Any square sterned, flat run aft, powerboat 'drags' her sternwave. With
the multiple factors involved with the hull-form & low sheer of BEE, you
have to think AHEAD and slow down gently. Ease off on the throttle and
allow the hull to 'sink' to it's waterline. IF you suddenly 'CHOP' the
throttle, she will VERY QUICKLY 'Drop of plane' and the stern wave will
overtake and 'poop' you . . . water coming over the stern and LOWER
SIDES. By adding 4 inches to the sheer, this problem will be somewhat
reduced.
When I was building her I took pictures as I went along, I also wrote
about the 'experience' in a 'diary format'. I had spoken to Bob Hicks
about publishing it; he promised to several times but I never saw it.
And one day the pictures just showed up in the mail. I'm thinking of
sending it to Chuck at 'Duckworks Magazine'. [It runs to 25 pages . . .
I don't want to fill up the List's bandwidth]
Suggestions? Comments?
Regards,
Ron Magen
Wolfard.. In my discussions with him, raising the sheer 4 inches was
also mentioned. The reason for doing so was very logical; depending on
the PRIMARY usage of the boat.
Typically a tender, or other 7 foot boat would use oars or a 1 - 2 hp
electric or gas o/b. HOWEVER . . . YES it is a waterborne 'saddle with
an engine' when you get up to the 'max. motor weight of 60 pounds'
category. {That is how it is rated on the plans, with a note about 5 hp
. . . obviously before today's lighter weight motors . . . I've seen
9.9hp at that weight} The 'process' is that at slow speeds the
'sponsons' support the mass of the load. As speed increases, she 'gets
up on plane' and 'ski's' on the full length footwell, or 'step'. All
well and good, very exciting, and proved the concept for an entire
series of designs. The 'problem' comes when you want to STOP !!
Any square sterned, flat run aft, powerboat 'drags' her sternwave. With
the multiple factors involved with the hull-form & low sheer of BEE, you
have to think AHEAD and slow down gently. Ease off on the throttle and
allow the hull to 'sink' to it's waterline. IF you suddenly 'CHOP' the
throttle, she will VERY QUICKLY 'Drop of plane' and the stern wave will
overtake and 'poop' you . . . water coming over the stern and LOWER
SIDES. By adding 4 inches to the sheer, this problem will be somewhat
reduced.
When I was building her I took pictures as I went along, I also wrote
about the 'experience' in a 'diary format'. I had spoken to Bob Hicks
about publishing it; he promised to several times but I never saw it.
And one day the pictures just showed up in the mail. I'm thinking of
sending it to Chuck at 'Duckworks Magazine'. [It runs to 25 pages . . .
I don't want to fill up the List's bandwidth]
Suggestions? Comments?
Regards,
Ron Magen