Re: [bolger] Re: MDO plywood
Yep, Skiff Craft used MDO planking. I recall an article in SBJ about them
years ago.
years ago.
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 22:13:11 -0000, David Jost wrote:
> James,
> I am pretty sure this is the stuff that wooden boat builders Skiff
> Craft, a great lakes operation, used for their lapstrake hulls. They
> were definately using a plywood that had a very smooth exterior to get
> that brilliant finish they were famous for.
> Maybe one of our members from the Great Lakes could confirm this.
--
John <jkohnen@...>
http://www.boat-links.com/
Why should we take advice on sex from the Pope?
If he knows anything about it, he shouldn't. <G. B. Shaw>
James,
I am pretty sure this is the stuff that wooden boat builders Skiff
Craft, a great lakes operation, used for their lapstrake hulls. They
were definately using a plywood that had a very smooth exterior to get
that brilliant finish they were famous for.
Maybe one of our members from the Great Lakes could confirm this.
Happy Boating,
David Jost
I am pretty sure this is the stuff that wooden boat builders Skiff
Craft, a great lakes operation, used for their lapstrake hulls. They
were definately using a plywood that had a very smooth exterior to get
that brilliant finish they were famous for.
Maybe one of our members from the Great Lakes could confirm this.
Happy Boating,
David Jost
What I did with our still under construction Diablo was butt, align
and clamp the cut out panels on a table, then with a router make a
groove the width of the tape I'm using,(half on each panel), the
depth slightly more than the thickness of the tape. Then laid on the
flat part of the driveway, plastic, the carefully aligned and
weighted
(to prevent shifting) panels -with twice saturated straight epoxy,
the
well saturated tape, peel ply, plastic, a flat board, and lots of
weight. The flat board being wider than the joint was pressed down
tight to the panels by the weight.
Next day pulled everything off and I have a very nice butt joint, the
excess epoxy leaked out each end and will be cut off. A gentle flip
of the joined panels and repeat of the above steps for the other side.
Rick
and clamp the cut out panels on a table, then with a router make a
groove the width of the tape I'm using,(half on each panel), the
depth slightly more than the thickness of the tape. Then laid on the
flat part of the driveway, plastic, the carefully aligned and
weighted
(to prevent shifting) panels -with twice saturated straight epoxy,
the
well saturated tape, peel ply, plastic, a flat board, and lots of
weight. The flat board being wider than the joint was pressed down
tight to the panels by the weight.
Next day pulled everything off and I have a very nice butt joint, the
excess epoxy leaked out each end and will be cut off. A gentle flip
of the joined panels and repeat of the above steps for the other side.
Rick
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, GANGSTERFISH@w... wrote:
> I understand that with MDO you don't have to glass the outside.
What
> about the seams between the sheets? How would you get a smooth
finish on
> the outside? What about fiberglass reinforced butt joints, Would the
> glass/epoxy taped seam stick to the MDO?
>
> I am getting ready to start my Micro after the first of the year and
> have been thinking about using MDO. It is available in my area
> (Ft.Worth,Tx) and is cheaper than marine ply or B/C pine. If I use
> marine (hardwood or fir) I'll have to order it. I was told it could
> arrive in less than a week but the MDO is here now.(3/8" is $29.88
a
4x8
> sheet.)
>
> Roger
I understand that with MDO you don't have to glass the outside. What
about the seams between the sheets? How would you get a smooth finish on
the outside? What about fiberglass reinforced butt joints, Would the
glass/epoxy taped seam stick to the MDO?
I am getting ready to start my Micro after the first of the year and
have been thinking about using MDO. It is available in my area
(Ft.Worth,Tx) and is cheaper than marine ply or B/C pine. If I use
marine (hardwood or fir) I'll have to order it. I was told it could
arrive in less than a week but the MDO is here now.(3/8" is $29.88 a 4x8
sheet.)
Roger
about the seams between the sheets? How would you get a smooth finish on
the outside? What about fiberglass reinforced butt joints, Would the
glass/epoxy taped seam stick to the MDO?
I am getting ready to start my Micro after the first of the year and
have been thinking about using MDO. It is available in my area
(Ft.Worth,Tx) and is cheaper than marine ply or B/C pine. If I use
marine (hardwood or fir) I'll have to order it. I was told it could
arrive in less than a week but the MDO is here now.(3/8" is $29.88 a 4x8
sheet.)
Roger
"MDO" is medium density overlay, and should conform to specs for highway
sign boards, whatever they may be. Clyde
John Ewing wrote:
sign boards, whatever they may be. Clyde
John Ewing wrote:
> Thanks for the Crezon MDO link, James. I'd only ever seen the stuff
> called MDO on this List. When I asked about MDO at the Windsor
> >
> > PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
> > SIMPSON CREZON® MDO
> > Width: 2', 4', 5'.
> > Length: 4'-10' (12'-24' scarfed).
> > Thickness: 5/16", 3/8", 1/2", 5/8", 3/4", 1" & 1 1/8".
> > Surface Treatments: Constructed with a phenolic resin overlay on
> one or both sides.
> >
> > It is in as much as 5' widths, and 4' lengths.
> >
> > The url is:
> >
> >http://www.simpson-plywood.com/crezon.htm
> >
> > If simpson products are available near wherever you are the scarfed
> pieces would certainly save a lot of work.
> >
> >
> >
> > James Fuller
>
>
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I too am 61, soon to be 62, and know exactly what you mean.
James
-----Original Message-----
From: John Ewing <j.c.ewing@...>
To:bolger@egroups.com<bolger@egroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 6:42 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: MDO plywood
James, you're right, of course. I just wonder why the guy at the
store couldn't have said as much and saved me a bit of confusion.
But, at 61, maybe Confusion has become my middle name in place of
Charles.
John
James
-----Original Message-----
From: John Ewing <j.c.ewing@...>
To:bolger@egroups.com<bolger@egroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 6:42 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: MDO plywood
James, you're right, of course. I just wonder why the guy at the
store couldn't have said as much and saved me a bit of confusion.
But, at 61, maybe Confusion has become my middle name in place of
Charles.
John
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, "James Fuller" <jamar@z...> wrote:
> John,
>
> I think that Crezon is probably a brand name, like Coca Cola. It's
generic
> name would be MDO.
>
> James
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Ewing <j.c.ewing@h...>
> To:bolger@egroups.com<bolger@egroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 2:55 AM
> Subject: [bolger] Re: MDO plywood
>
>
> Thanks for the Crezon MDO link, James. I'd only ever seen the stuff
> called MDO on this List. When I asked about MDO at the Windsor
> Plywood finishing outlet here in Victoria a month ago, they said
they
> carry it as 'Crezon'. Maybe it's like soft drinks: 'Soda pop' is
> known to Americans as 'soda' and to Canadians as 'pop'.
>
> In any case, the guy at Windsor said they could only get Crezon/MDO
> in 3/4' (I found it stocked) and 1/2" (I couldn't find any), and it
> was yellowish instead of white. The price list at Windsor also
showed
> 3/8" but the guy indicated it was only available by special order.
> The price for 3/8" was $31.95 Cdn for a 4' x 8' sheet and 1/2" was
> $39.95. I've lost my note on the price for 3/4".
>
> So how about elsewhere in Canada and also the Pacific Northwest? Do
> you have a wider selection of MDO/Crezon available and what's the
> price?
>
> John
>
> --- Inbolger@egroups.com, "james fuller" <jamar@z...> wrote:
> > I don't know where this would be available, certainly not
> > new mexico, but I ran into this looking under MDO wood on the www.
> >
> > PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
> > SIMPSON CREZON® MDO
> > Width: 2', 4', 5'.
> > Length: 4'-10' (12'-24' scarfed).
> > Thickness: 5/16", 3/8", 1/2", 5/8", 3/4", 1" & 1 1/8".
> > Surface Treatments: Constructed with a phenolic resin overlay on
> one or both sides.
> >
> > It is in as much as 5' widths, and 4' lengths.
> >
> > The url is:
> >
> >http://www.simpson-plywood.com/crezon.htm
> >
> > If simpson products are available near wherever you are the
scarfed
> pieces would certainly save a lot of work.
> >
> >
> >
> > James Fuller
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
> - no flogging dead horses
> - add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
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Bolger rules!!!
- no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
- no flogging dead horses
- add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
- stay on topic and punctuate
- add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
James, you're right, of course. I just wonder why the guy at the
store couldn't have said as much and saved me a bit of confusion.
But, at 61, maybe Confusion has become my middle name in place of
Charles.
John
store couldn't have said as much and saved me a bit of confusion.
But, at 61, maybe Confusion has become my middle name in place of
Charles.
John
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, "James Fuller" <jamar@z...> wrote:
> John,
>
> I think that Crezon is probably a brand name, like Coca Cola. It's
generic
> name would be MDO.
>
> James
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Ewing <j.c.ewing@h...>
> To:bolger@egroups.com<bolger@egroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 2:55 AM
> Subject: [bolger] Re: MDO plywood
>
>
> Thanks for the Crezon MDO link, James. I'd only ever seen the stuff
> called MDO on this List. When I asked about MDO at the Windsor
> Plywood finishing outlet here in Victoria a month ago, they said
they
> carry it as 'Crezon'. Maybe it's like soft drinks: 'Soda pop' is
> known to Americans as 'soda' and to Canadians as 'pop'.
>
> In any case, the guy at Windsor said they could only get Crezon/MDO
> in 3/4' (I found it stocked) and 1/2" (I couldn't find any), and it
> was yellowish instead of white. The price list at Windsor also
showed
> 3/8" but the guy indicated it was only available by special order.
> The price for 3/8" was $31.95 Cdn for a 4' x 8' sheet and 1/2" was
> $39.95. I've lost my note on the price for 3/4".
>
> So how about elsewhere in Canada and also the Pacific Northwest? Do
> you have a wider selection of MDO/Crezon available and what's the
> price?
>
> John
>
> --- Inbolger@egroups.com, "james fuller" <jamar@z...> wrote:
> > I don't know where this would be available, certainly not
> > new mexico, but I ran into this looking under MDO wood on the www.
> >
> > PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
> > SIMPSON CREZON® MDO
> > Width: 2', 4', 5'.
> > Length: 4'-10' (12'-24' scarfed).
> > Thickness: 5/16", 3/8", 1/2", 5/8", 3/4", 1" & 1 1/8".
> > Surface Treatments: Constructed with a phenolic resin overlay on
> one or both sides.
> >
> > It is in as much as 5' widths, and 4' lengths.
> >
> > The url is:
> >
> >http://www.simpson-plywood.com/crezon.htm
> >
> > If simpson products are available near wherever you are the
scarfed
> pieces would certainly save a lot of work.
> >
> >
> >
> > James Fuller
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
> - no flogging dead horses
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--- Inbolger@egroups.com, "John Ewing" <j.c.ewing@h...> wrote:
Portland, OR area for both MDO and Marine plywood, the Linnton
Plywood Assn, 503-286-0711 / 503-286-3765 (FAX)/888-286-0711
LaDawn@...
http://www.linntonplywood.com/
A very helpful employee-owned company.
> So how about elsewhere in Canada and also the Pacific Northwest? DoAs has been mentioned some months ago, the is a great source in the
> you have a wider selection of MDO/Crezon available and what's the
> price?
>
> John
>
Portland, OR area for both MDO and Marine plywood, the Linnton
Plywood Assn, 503-286-0711 / 503-286-3765 (FAX)/888-286-0711
LaDawn@...
http://www.linntonplywood.com/
A very helpful employee-owned company.
Thanks for the Crezon MDO link, James. I'd only ever seen the stuff
called MDO on this List. When I asked about MDO at the Windsor
Plywood finishing outlet here in Victoria a month ago, they said they
carry it as 'Crezon'. Maybe it's like soft drinks: 'Soda pop' is
known to Americans as 'soda' and to Canadians as 'pop'.
In any case, the guy at Windsor said they could only get Crezon/MDO
in 3/4' (I found it stocked) and 1/2" (I couldn't find any), and it
was yellowish instead of white. The price list at Windsor also showed
3/8" but the guy indicated it was only available by special order.
The price for 3/8" was $31.95 Cdn for a 4' x 8' sheet and 1/2" was
$39.95. I've lost my note on the price for 3/4".
So how about elsewhere in Canada and also the Pacific Northwest? Do
you have a wider selection of MDO/Crezon available and what's the
price?
John
called MDO on this List. When I asked about MDO at the Windsor
Plywood finishing outlet here in Victoria a month ago, they said they
carry it as 'Crezon'. Maybe it's like soft drinks: 'Soda pop' is
known to Americans as 'soda' and to Canadians as 'pop'.
In any case, the guy at Windsor said they could only get Crezon/MDO
in 3/4' (I found it stocked) and 1/2" (I couldn't find any), and it
was yellowish instead of white. The price list at Windsor also showed
3/8" but the guy indicated it was only available by special order.
The price for 3/8" was $31.95 Cdn for a 4' x 8' sheet and 1/2" was
$39.95. I've lost my note on the price for 3/4".
So how about elsewhere in Canada and also the Pacific Northwest? Do
you have a wider selection of MDO/Crezon available and what's the
price?
John
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, "james fuller" <jamar@z...> wrote:
> I don't know where this would be available, certainly not
> new mexico, but I ran into this looking under MDO wood on the www.
>
> PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
> SIMPSON CREZON® MDO
> Width: 2', 4', 5'.
> Length: 4'-10' (12'-24' scarfed).
> Thickness: 5/16", 3/8", 1/2", 5/8", 3/4", 1" & 1 1/8".
> Surface Treatments: Constructed with a phenolic resin overlay on
one or both sides.
>
> It is in as much as 5' widths, and 4' lengths.
>
> The url is:
>
>http://www.simpson-plywood.com/crezon.htm
>
> If simpson products are available near wherever you are the scarfed
pieces would certainly save a lot of work.
>
>
>
> James Fuller
I meant to say in 5' witdths, and 24 ft lengths.
----- Original Message -----From:james fullerSent:Tuesday, December 26, 2000 5:26 PMSubject:[bolger] MDO plywoodI don't know where this would be available, certainly notnew mexico, but I ran into this looking under MDO wood on the www.PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
SIMPSON CREZON® MDOWidth:2', 4', 5'.
Length:4'-10' (12'-24' scarfed).
Thickness:5/16", 3/8", 1/2", 5/8", 3/4", 1" & 1 1/8".
Surface Treatments:Constructed with a phenolic resin overlay on one or both sides.It is in as much as 5' widths, and 4' lengths.
The url is:
http://www.simpson-plywood.com/crezon.htm
If simpson products are available near wherever you are the scarfed pieces would certainly save a lot of work.
James Fuller
Bolger rules!!!
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I don't know where this would be available, certainly
not
new mexico, but I ran into this looking under MDO wood on the
www.
PRODUCT
DESCRIPTION
SIMPSON CREZON® MDO
SIMPSON CREZON® MDO
Width:2', 4', 5'.
Length:4'-10' (12'-24' scarfed).
Thickness:5/16", 3/8",
1/2", 5/8", 3/4", 1" & 1 1/8".
Surface Treatments:Constructed
with a phenolic resin overlay on one or both sides.
It is in as much as 5' widths, and 4' lengths.
The url is:
http://www.simpson-plywood.com/crezon.htm
If simpson products are available near wherever you are the scarfed pieces would certainly save a lot of work.
James Fuller
John,
I think that Crezon is probably a brand name, like Coca Cola. It's generic
name would be MDO.
James
-----Original Message-----
From: John Ewing <j.c.ewing@...>
To:bolger@egroups.com<bolger@egroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 2:55 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: MDO plywood
Thanks for the Crezon MDO link, James. I'd only ever seen the stuff
called MDO on this List. When I asked about MDO at the Windsor
Plywood finishing outlet here in Victoria a month ago, they said they
carry it as 'Crezon'. Maybe it's like soft drinks: 'Soda pop' is
known to Americans as 'soda' and to Canadians as 'pop'.
In any case, the guy at Windsor said they could only get Crezon/MDO
in 3/4' (I found it stocked) and 1/2" (I couldn't find any), and it
was yellowish instead of white. The price list at Windsor also showed
3/8" but the guy indicated it was only available by special order.
The price for 3/8" was $31.95 Cdn for a 4' x 8' sheet and 1/2" was
$39.95. I've lost my note on the price for 3/4".
So how about elsewhere in Canada and also the Pacific Northwest? Do
you have a wider selection of MDO/Crezon available and what's the
price?
John
I think that Crezon is probably a brand name, like Coca Cola. It's generic
name would be MDO.
James
-----Original Message-----
From: John Ewing <j.c.ewing@...>
To:bolger@egroups.com<bolger@egroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 2:55 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: MDO plywood
Thanks for the Crezon MDO link, James. I'd only ever seen the stuff
called MDO on this List. When I asked about MDO at the Windsor
Plywood finishing outlet here in Victoria a month ago, they said they
carry it as 'Crezon'. Maybe it's like soft drinks: 'Soda pop' is
known to Americans as 'soda' and to Canadians as 'pop'.
In any case, the guy at Windsor said they could only get Crezon/MDO
in 3/4' (I found it stocked) and 1/2" (I couldn't find any), and it
was yellowish instead of white. The price list at Windsor also showed
3/8" but the guy indicated it was only available by special order.
The price for 3/8" was $31.95 Cdn for a 4' x 8' sheet and 1/2" was
$39.95. I've lost my note on the price for 3/4".
So how about elsewhere in Canada and also the Pacific Northwest? Do
you have a wider selection of MDO/Crezon available and what's the
price?
John
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, "james fuller" <jamar@z...> wrote:
> I don't know where this would be available, certainly not
> new mexico, but I ran into this looking under MDO wood on the www.
>
> PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
> SIMPSON CREZON® MDO
> Width: 2', 4', 5'.
> Length: 4'-10' (12'-24' scarfed).
> Thickness: 5/16", 3/8", 1/2", 5/8", 3/4", 1" & 1 1/8".
> Surface Treatments: Constructed with a phenolic resin overlay on
one or both sides.
>
> It is in as much as 5' widths, and 4' lengths.
>
> The url is:
>
>http://www.simpson-plywood.com/crezon.htm
>
> If simpson products are available near wherever you are the scarfed
pieces would certainly save a lot of work.
>
>
>
> James Fuller
Bolger rules!!!
- no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
- no flogging dead horses
- add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
- stay on topic and punctuate
- add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts