Re: [bolger] Re: Iceboats
In a message dated 1/8/01 5:53:11 PM Central Standard Time,
lincolnr@... writes:
lincolnr@... writes:
What about getting old skates, cutting off the uppers, and bolting the
soles to a piece of wood cut to match?
A recent issue of "HUT" (Minnesota Canoe Association publication) included an
interesting yarn, the veracity of which is not to be too highly relied upon,
in which the heroes avoided damaging a couple of pair of skates by, as I
recall, lashing them to 1X4's jammed between the soles and the blades, and
using the lashup to support a canoe with some sort of contrived sail. The
punch line of the yarn was the long, cold walk back upwind after the "sail"!
Bill in tropical MN
Just go buy the plans for the Icester at icester.net. It is very
simple to build and sail's very well.
Niels
simple to build and sail's very well.
Niels
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, "Lincoln Ross" <lincolnr@m...> wrote:
> I have no experience with this, but I recall some information on a
low
> tech iceboat in the "American Boy's Handy Book". THis also contains,
> among other things, info on how to make a rowboat and a shantyboat.
I
> seem to remember that some of this book was over the top, but I
think
> anyone who likes building Bolger boats would find it at least
amusing.
> I saw a new copy in a store only a year or so ago.
>
> What about getting old skates, cutting off the uppers, and bolting
the
> soles to a piece of wood cut to match?
>
> How big are the ponds down there, and are they still clean? Up here
> near Boston there's still a bunch of snow on the ground. Maybe I
> should figure out a similar trick for the rig from our Brick, or
maybe
> just put the Brick on some kind of sled? Wouldn't have to worry as
> much about thin ice, I guess.
> --- Inbolger@egroups.com, "Paul A. Lefebvre, Jr." <paul@w...>
wrote:
> > OK, every time we get a REAL winter and there is ice for any
> reasonable
> > length of time, I swear 'someday', I'll build myself an iceboat.
> snip
> > but I'm stumped on one thing - what is a good offbeat source for
> cheap
> > improvised runners snip
>
> P.S. I think 4X4 PT is probably overkill with a small rig.
I have no experience with this, but I recall some information on a low
tech iceboat in the "American Boy's Handy Book". THis also contains,
among other things, info on how to make a rowboat and a shantyboat. I
seem to remember that some of this book was over the top, but I think
anyone who likes building Bolger boats would find it at least amusing.
I saw a new copy in a store only a year or so ago.
What about getting old skates, cutting off the uppers, and bolting the
soles to a piece of wood cut to match?
How big are the ponds down there, and are they still clean? Up here
near Boston there's still a bunch of snow on the ground. Maybe I
should figure out a similar trick for the rig from our Brick, or maybe
just put the Brick on some kind of sled? Wouldn't have to worry as
much about thin ice, I guess.
tech iceboat in the "American Boy's Handy Book". THis also contains,
among other things, info on how to make a rowboat and a shantyboat. I
seem to remember that some of this book was over the top, but I think
anyone who likes building Bolger boats would find it at least amusing.
I saw a new copy in a store only a year or so ago.
What about getting old skates, cutting off the uppers, and bolting the
soles to a piece of wood cut to match?
How big are the ponds down there, and are they still clean? Up here
near Boston there's still a bunch of snow on the ground. Maybe I
should figure out a similar trick for the rig from our Brick, or maybe
just put the Brick on some kind of sled? Wouldn't have to worry as
much about thin ice, I guess.
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, "Paul A. Lefebvre, Jr." <paul@w...> wrote:
> OK, every time we get a REAL winter and there is ice for any
reasonable
> length of time, I swear 'someday', I'll build myself an iceboat.
snip
> but I'm stumped on one thing - what is a good offbeat source for
cheap
> improvised runners snip
P.S. I think 4X4 PT is probably overkill with a small rig.
Well, do study Bolger's iceboat cruiser in Boats With an Open Mind.
Gregg Carlson
At 01:30 PM 1/8/2001 -0500, you wrote:
Gregg Carlson
At 01:30 PM 1/8/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>OK, every time we get a REAL winter and there is ice for any reasonable
>length of time, I swear 'someday', I'll build myself an iceboat. So far this
>winter we've already had more days of 'skating ice' than we usually get
>total in a good year, and it usually doesn't even arrive until February, so
>maybe this year I'll actually do something about it. But since the local
>iceboating season is at best 1/10 the local sailing season, I don't want to
>invest a lot of time or money. So I'm thinking of a real quick and dirty
>backyard rig that I could slap together in a weekend at most (don't want to
>be distracted for too long from my Micro project!), out of the 4x4
>pressure-treated beams leftover from my back deck into either a 'V' or 'T'-
>shaped frame with a plywood seat in the appropriate spot and a big hole
>drilled someplace to let the mast drop in. I can imagine most of the rest,
>but I'm stumped on one thing - what is a good offbeat source for cheap
>improvised runners that don't require industrial grinders/cutters or a
>welding outfit? (someone once said old car radiators have iron U-channel
>edge frames that can be cut off and their edges ground to make cheapo
>blades, but the ones on the newer cars seem too flimsy). I've got a Phantom
>(Sunfish clone) sailboat rig, and as long as there's no great danger of
>bending the mast or spars I think it'll do..... don't want to damage it
>though, have already busted one spar and it was pricey to replace! I know
>iceboats are more prone than floaty boats to bending/breaking masts, since
>they don't heel as readily to dump wind. I once got to ride on a
>commercially built metal-framed 'iceskimmer' and it was a real hoot, I've
>never forgotten it. Now I live very near a nicely frozen cranberry bog and
>I've got the itch... Anyone ever messed around with something like this?
>
>Paul Lefebvre, looking for alternative types of insanity other than Cabin
>Fever on Cape Cod.......
>
>
>
>Bolger rules!!!
>- no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
>- no flogging dead horses
>- add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
>- stay on topic and punctuate
>- add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
>
>
>
OK, every time we get a REAL winter and there is ice for any reasonable
length of time, I swear 'someday', I'll build myself an iceboat. So far this
winter we've already had more days of 'skating ice' than we usually get
total in a good year, and it usually doesn't even arrive until February, so
maybe this year I'll actually do something about it. But since the local
iceboating season is at best 1/10 the local sailing season, I don't want to
invest a lot of time or money. So I'm thinking of a real quick and dirty
backyard rig that I could slap together in a weekend at most (don't want to
be distracted for too long from my Micro project!), out of the 4x4
pressure-treated beams leftover from my back deck into either a 'V' or 'T'-
shaped frame with a plywood seat in the appropriate spot and a big hole
drilled someplace to let the mast drop in. I can imagine most of the rest,
but I'm stumped on one thing - what is a good offbeat source for cheap
improvised runners that don't require industrial grinders/cutters or a
welding outfit? (someone once said old car radiators have iron U-channel
edge frames that can be cut off and their edges ground to make cheapo
blades, but the ones on the newer cars seem too flimsy). I've got a Phantom
(Sunfish clone) sailboat rig, and as long as there's no great danger of
bending the mast or spars I think it'll do..... don't want to damage it
though, have already busted one spar and it was pricey to replace! I know
iceboats are more prone than floaty boats to bending/breaking masts, since
they don't heel as readily to dump wind. I once got to ride on a
commercially built metal-framed 'iceskimmer' and it was a real hoot, I've
never forgotten it. Now I live very near a nicely frozen cranberry bog and
I've got the itch... Anyone ever messed around with something like this?
Paul Lefebvre, looking for alternative types of insanity other than Cabin
Fever on Cape Cod.......
length of time, I swear 'someday', I'll build myself an iceboat. So far this
winter we've already had more days of 'skating ice' than we usually get
total in a good year, and it usually doesn't even arrive until February, so
maybe this year I'll actually do something about it. But since the local
iceboating season is at best 1/10 the local sailing season, I don't want to
invest a lot of time or money. So I'm thinking of a real quick and dirty
backyard rig that I could slap together in a weekend at most (don't want to
be distracted for too long from my Micro project!), out of the 4x4
pressure-treated beams leftover from my back deck into either a 'V' or 'T'-
shaped frame with a plywood seat in the appropriate spot and a big hole
drilled someplace to let the mast drop in. I can imagine most of the rest,
but I'm stumped on one thing - what is a good offbeat source for cheap
improvised runners that don't require industrial grinders/cutters or a
welding outfit? (someone once said old car radiators have iron U-channel
edge frames that can be cut off and their edges ground to make cheapo
blades, but the ones on the newer cars seem too flimsy). I've got a Phantom
(Sunfish clone) sailboat rig, and as long as there's no great danger of
bending the mast or spars I think it'll do..... don't want to damage it
though, have already busted one spar and it was pricey to replace! I know
iceboats are more prone than floaty boats to bending/breaking masts, since
they don't heel as readily to dump wind. I once got to ride on a
commercially built metal-framed 'iceskimmer' and it was a real hoot, I've
never forgotten it. Now I live very near a nicely frozen cranberry bog and
I've got the itch... Anyone ever messed around with something like this?
Paul Lefebvre, looking for alternative types of insanity other than Cabin
Fever on Cape Cod.......
Plenty of ice here in sunny tropical Minnesota. It's several feet
thick on most lakes; folks can drive out to go ice fishing, but
there's way too much snow for the iceboats. Iceboats need bare ice,
or at most a light dusting of snow. Most years it snows too much
before the ice gets thick.
thick on most lakes; folks can drive out to go ice fishing, but
there's way too much snow for the iceboats. Iceboats need bare ice,
or at most a light dusting of snow. Most years it snows too much
before the ice gets thick.
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, wattleweedooseeds@b... wrote:
> G'day all, sorry to hearthat it;s too cold to paint or epoxy. . .
> . . .Have any of you got enough ice to go
> iceyachting? Now that's something I'd like to try. The best I ever
> got out of my landyacht was110 kmph(65mph)
> cheers for now Paul Day.
G'day all, sorry to hearthat it;s too cold to paint or epoxy. I've
been having the opposite problem. resin was stored up on a high shelf
as the pumps and containers look like sunscreen bottles. As I mixed
in the slow hardener it frothed up in the container and went hard
whilst I was still mixing. I'm now storing it in a foam esky next to
the air conditioner. My little 31' creation is progressing nicely.
Iglassed some external seams, sanded all the decks and the inside of
the hull ready for the marine primer which is supposed to arrive
tommorow (yeah sure). Having run out of big jobs to go on with,
Istarted to cut out my booms. There's no such thing as a 3 1/2 x 3/4
out here so I'm using 2 1/2 x 3/4 with 3/4x3/4 stiffeners glued
either side . When I cut out the main boom at 12'7" I realized just
what a big dinghy I am building. Having the stiffeners should help
to reduce the warping that is so common in our hot/ dry climate.
Well folks time to go. Have any of you got enough ice to go
iceyachting? Now that's something I'd like to try. The best I ever
got out of my landyacht was110 kmph(65mph)
cheers for now Paul Day.
been having the opposite problem. resin was stored up on a high shelf
as the pumps and containers look like sunscreen bottles. As I mixed
in the slow hardener it frothed up in the container and went hard
whilst I was still mixing. I'm now storing it in a foam esky next to
the air conditioner. My little 31' creation is progressing nicely.
Iglassed some external seams, sanded all the decks and the inside of
the hull ready for the marine primer which is supposed to arrive
tommorow (yeah sure). Having run out of big jobs to go on with,
Istarted to cut out my booms. There's no such thing as a 3 1/2 x 3/4
out here so I'm using 2 1/2 x 3/4 with 3/4x3/4 stiffeners glued
either side . When I cut out the main boom at 12'7" I realized just
what a big dinghy I am building. Having the stiffeners should help
to reduce the warping that is so common in our hot/ dry climate.
Well folks time to go. Have any of you got enough ice to go
iceyachting? Now that's something I'd like to try. The best I ever
got out of my landyacht was110 kmph(65mph)
cheers for now Paul Day.