Re: the advantages of a cradle!
Hello David,
Nice Micro site you've got there!Too bad winter has shut down the
the shop...:-(
While I was building my Micro I built 4 wooden boxes with the tops
angled to match the Micros bottom rocker.These boxes were placed under
the boat in the four corners of the hull.One little trick I discovered
was that you could remove any ONE box and the boat did not fall
over.This was very handy when it came time to address the whole keel
installation procedure.It was also useful later on when it came time
to slide my craddle under her!
If you haven't already,you may wish to check out the DUCKWORKS
MAGAZINE site,and the"article"about pouring a Micro keel.I have some
photos there that show exactly what I am talking about.
Continued success with the building of your Micro!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,feeling rather sleepy after a delicious pasta supper
with homemade pesto,some homemade chocolate moose pie and now about to
retire after my second glass of fine smokey Port wine,on the banks of
the St.Lawrence...........
Nice Micro site you've got there!Too bad winter has shut down the
the shop...:-(
While I was building my Micro I built 4 wooden boxes with the tops
angled to match the Micros bottom rocker.These boxes were placed under
the boat in the four corners of the hull.One little trick I discovered
was that you could remove any ONE box and the boat did not fall
over.This was very handy when it came time to address the whole keel
installation procedure.It was also useful later on when it came time
to slide my craddle under her!
If you haven't already,you may wish to check out the DUCKWORKS
MAGAZINE site,and the"article"about pouring a Micro keel.I have some
photos there that show exactly what I am talking about.
Continued success with the building of your Micro!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,feeling rather sleepy after a delicious pasta supper
with homemade pesto,some homemade chocolate moose pie and now about to
retire after my second glass of fine smokey Port wine,on the banks of
the St.Lawrence...........
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, "David Jost" <djost@m...> wrote:
> Carron,
> I have my Micro on a cradle while I am building her. I got
> instructions on how to make a cradle from David Gerr's Book "The
> Nature of Boats".
> My cradle is going to be real helpful when positioning the
keel,
> and allows me to climb in, under, and around the boat. I can also
move
> it around the yard using 2X6's and steel pipe rollers. It works
pretty
> well, except putting it in the garage.
> I was thinking of just loading it on a flatbed for transport,
> however I made one real goof! If you make a cradle for Micro, limit
it
> to 48", You can then get it on a small flatbed like those that
> Northern Equipment sells. I either need to make the cradle
narrower,
> or make a new one. $60 US in pressure treated 4X4's
> You can see the cradle at www.ultranet.com/~djost/Micro.htm
Carron,
I have my Micro on a cradle while I am building her. I got
instructions on how to make a cradle from David Gerr's Book "The
Nature of Boats".
My cradle is going to be real helpful when positioning the keel,
and allows me to climb in, under, and around the boat. I can also move
it around the yard using 2X6's and steel pipe rollers. It works pretty
well, except putting it in the garage.
I was thinking of just loading it on a flatbed for transport,
however I made one real goof! If you make a cradle for Micro, limit it
to 48", You can then get it on a small flatbed like those that
Northern Equipment sells. I either need to make the cradle narrower,
or make a new one. $60 US in pressure treated 4X4's
You can see the cradle at www.ultranet.com/~djost/Micro.htm
I have my Micro on a cradle while I am building her. I got
instructions on how to make a cradle from David Gerr's Book "The
Nature of Boats".
My cradle is going to be real helpful when positioning the keel,
and allows me to climb in, under, and around the boat. I can also move
it around the yard using 2X6's and steel pipe rollers. It works pretty
well, except putting it in the garage.
I was thinking of just loading it on a flatbed for transport,
however I made one real goof! If you make a cradle for Micro, limit it
to 48", You can then get it on a small flatbed like those that
Northern Equipment sells. I either need to make the cradle narrower,
or make a new one. $60 US in pressure treated 4X4's
You can see the cradle at www.ultranet.com/~djost/Micro.htm
Don,
You got me good with that one!!!Now I really have to get that
damned photo re-scanned before others think the MICRO is built with
4"thick timbers!
Also,either I have to drink more coffee or less wine when reading
these things.......I do like humour!
Cheers to you!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,enjoying the joke a bit late but liking it
nevertheless,here on the -18 Celsius shores of the St.Lawrence....
You got me good with that one!!!Now I really have to get that
damned photo re-scanned before others think the MICRO is built with
4"thick timbers!
Also,either I have to drink more coffee or less wine when reading
these things.......I do like humour!
Cheers to you!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,enjoying the joke a bit late but liking it
nevertheless,here on the -18 Celsius shores of the St.Lawrence....
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, StepHydro@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 01/10/2001 1:<BR42:<BR03 AM
> Eastern Standard , ellengaest@b... writes:> Carron,
> > There appears to be a wee bit of confusion here.The
pictures of
> > the building of my MICRO that you are refering to are the ones
from
> > DUCKWORKS MAGAZINE,I presume?
>
> Peter,
>
> I was merely winding you up :-) The digital photos made the boat
look as if
> it were made of 1' thick slabe that weren"t quite lined up properly.
>
> Sorry for the obscure joke without a hint.
>
> Cheers/Don
In a message dated 01/10/2001 1:<BR42:<BR03 AM
Eastern Standard ,ellengaest@...writes:> Carron,
I was merely winding you up :-) The digital photos made the boat look as if
it were made of 1' thick slabe that weren"t quite lined up properly.
Sorry for the obscure joke without a hint.
Cheers/Don
Eastern Standard ,ellengaest@...writes:> Carron,
> There appears to be a wee bit of confusion here.The pictures ofPeter,
> the building of my MICRO that you are refering to are the ones from
> DUCKWORKS MAGAZINE,I presume?
I was merely winding you up :-) The digital photos made the boat look as if
it were made of 1' thick slabe that weren"t quite lined up properly.
Sorry for the obscure joke without a hint.
Cheers/Don
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, StepHydro@a... wrote:
There appears to be a wee bit of confusion here.The pictures of
the building of my MICRO that you are refering to are the ones from
DUCKWORKS MAGAZINE,I presume?The construction method used is rather
old fashioned consisting of a strongback(ladder frame?) on which
either molds,frames or bulkheads are mounted.In the case of the
MICRO,those"vertical lifts"to which you refer,are the actual
transoms,bulkheads and frame of the actual boat and under no
circumstances should they be"taken apart and stacked for storage"!
This method of construction is well suited to the solo builder as
it permits one to work at a reasonable pace as time allows without
everything going out of true.Also,it gives one ample opportunities to
adjust things so that they are perfectly fair before you begin
planking or hanging plywood to enclose the hull.
A craddle,on the otherhand,is something different.It is not an
intergal part of the boat nor is it used to build the boat.It is just
a base onto which the completed boat is stored when out of the water
or trailed around.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,feeling the cold bite of another winters night,on the
banks of the St.Lawrence.......
> Peter,from
> Enjoyed the pictures.
>
> I was particularly interested in the method you used to build Micro
> those vertical lifts. I suppose that they are attached with someosrt of
> fasteners to make a boat, and then can be taken apart and stackedfor storage?
>better in
> I like the method, but would look carefully for a way to fair them
> a future boat.Carron,
>
> Cheers/Carron
There appears to be a wee bit of confusion here.The pictures of
the building of my MICRO that you are refering to are the ones from
DUCKWORKS MAGAZINE,I presume?The construction method used is rather
old fashioned consisting of a strongback(ladder frame?) on which
either molds,frames or bulkheads are mounted.In the case of the
MICRO,those"vertical lifts"to which you refer,are the actual
transoms,bulkheads and frame of the actual boat and under no
circumstances should they be"taken apart and stacked for storage"!
This method of construction is well suited to the solo builder as
it permits one to work at a reasonable pace as time allows without
everything going out of true.Also,it gives one ample opportunities to
adjust things so that they are perfectly fair before you begin
planking or hanging plywood to enclose the hull.
A craddle,on the otherhand,is something different.It is not an
intergal part of the boat nor is it used to build the boat.It is just
a base onto which the completed boat is stored when out of the water
or trailed around.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,feeling the cold bite of another winters night,on the
banks of the St.Lawrence.......
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001KF4call@...wrote:
from the pen of Chuck Merrell (an FOB and live-in inhabitant of Jessie
Cooper). I think it works just fine.
> Mertens-Goossens, NA describes a technique of building in what heThis is the technique to build "Clodhopper", a nice little sailing dinghy
> calls a "basket mold" which is an incomplete external female support
> form. Sort of like a cradle, but I gather that it fits the exterior
> shape of the boat more precisely.
from the pen of Chuck Merrell (an FOB and live-in inhabitant of Jessie
Cooper). I think it works just fine.
To all:
Mertens-Goossens, NA describes a technique of building in what he calls a
"basket mold" which is an incomplete external female support form. Sort of
like a cradle, but I gather that it fits the exterior shape of the boat more
precisely. Looks interesting. I guess it wouldn"t really be needed for a
"square" boat, but for more complex shapes it seems to have some
possibilities. Ever since I had an old sailing dinghy that sailed better on
one tack than the other, I have been (over?)-concerned about symmetry when
building the hull to shape. If you want to check it out:
http://www.bateau.com/tutorials/serpkey.htm
Best regards,
Warren
In a message dated 1/9/2001 1:25:13 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ellengaest@...writes:
<< Carron,
So true.....that is why I rented this one!The idea I was
attempting to illustrate is that by building a solid craddle for your
MICRO(or any other boat) you end up with an excellent device on which
to store your Micro off-season,basic flatbed trailers or vehicle
transport trailers can be rented very cheaply(at least up here) to
haul your boat safely and you do not have to put up with the expense
of owning/maintaining/stowing a trailer. >>
Mertens-Goossens, NA describes a technique of building in what he calls a
"basket mold" which is an incomplete external female support form. Sort of
like a cradle, but I gather that it fits the exterior shape of the boat more
precisely. Looks interesting. I guess it wouldn"t really be needed for a
"square" boat, but for more complex shapes it seems to have some
possibilities. Ever since I had an old sailing dinghy that sailed better on
one tack than the other, I have been (over?)-concerned about symmetry when
building the hull to shape. If you want to check it out:
http://www.bateau.com/tutorials/serpkey.htm
Best regards,
Warren
In a message dated 1/9/2001 1:25:13 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ellengaest@...writes:
<< Carron,
So true.....that is why I rented this one!The idea I was
attempting to illustrate is that by building a solid craddle for your
MICRO(or any other boat) you end up with an excellent device on which
to store your Micro off-season,basic flatbed trailers or vehicle
transport trailers can be rented very cheaply(at least up here) to
haul your boat safely and you do not have to put up with the expense
of owning/maintaining/stowing a trailer. >>
Peter,
Enjoyed the pictures.
I was particularly interested in the method you used to build Micro from
those vertical lifts. I suppose that they are attached with some osrt of
fasteners to make a boat, and then can be taken apart and stacked for storage?
I like the method, but would look carefully for a way to fair them better in
a future boat.
Cheers/Carron
Enjoyed the pictures.
I was particularly interested in the method you used to build Micro from
those vertical lifts. I suppose that they are attached with some osrt of
fasteners to make a boat, and then can be taken apart and stacked for storage?
I like the method, but would look carefully for a way to fair them better in
a future boat.
Cheers/Carron
--- Inbolger@egroups.com, StepHydro@a... wrote:
So true.....that is why I rented this one!The idea I was
attempting to illustrate is that by building a solid craddle for your
MICRO(or any other boat) you end up with an excellent device on which
to store your Micro off-season,basic flatbed trailers or vehicle
transport trailers can be rented very cheaply(at least up here) to
haul your boat safely and you do not have to put up with the expense
of owning/maintaining/stowing a trailer.
The above,of course,only applies to those who keep their boats in
the water throughout the boating season at a mooring,marina or yacht
club and not the diehard trailer-sailors who must bring their boat
home after each outing.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,looking forward to returning to the photo shop and
asking why these scans came out looking like caca and hopefully
getting them corrected,on the banks of the St.Lawrence........
> In a message dated 01/08/2001 4:<BR37:<BR37 PMCarron,
> Eastern Standard ,bolger@egroups.comwrites:> Description : the
> advantages of a craddle!
>
> Yeah, but not everyone has one of those tow trux!!!
So true.....that is why I rented this one!The idea I was
attempting to illustrate is that by building a solid craddle for your
MICRO(or any other boat) you end up with an excellent device on which
to store your Micro off-season,basic flatbed trailers or vehicle
transport trailers can be rented very cheaply(at least up here) to
haul your boat safely and you do not have to put up with the expense
of owning/maintaining/stowing a trailer.
The above,of course,only applies to those who keep their boats in
the water throughout the boating season at a mooring,marina or yacht
club and not the diehard trailer-sailors who must bring their boat
home after each outing.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,looking forward to returning to the photo shop and
asking why these scans came out looking like caca and hopefully
getting them corrected,on the banks of the St.Lawrence........
In a message dated 01/08/2001 4:<BR37:<BR37 PM
Eastern Standard ,bolger@egroups.comwrites:> Description : the
advantages of a craddle!
Yeah, but not everyone has one of those tow trux!!!
Eastern Standard ,bolger@egroups.comwrites:> Description : the
advantages of a craddle!
Yeah, but not everyone has one of those tow trux!!!