RE: [bolger] forward well and ventilator, was Re: Opening portlights on Micro?
Thanks, Peter;
I had to laugh at your remark about the phone book - in most places in the
US, people don't know what to make of my name, and always try to correct the
spelling for me. But I have more than once been in a situation, in
French-speaking areas of the world, of finding my pronunciation of my own
name drew chuckles from those who could say it better than I.......
My grandmother, born right below the Funiculaire on Rue Petit Champlain in
the old city of Quebec (a very long time before anyone thought to clean it
up and line it with tourist boutiques), saw to it that I was raised speaking
both French and English..... however since her passing, I have been
'serially bilingual', at various times fluent in Polish, German, a little
Russian; then I married a Brazilian, and now speak Portuguese full-time at
home (and half the time at work). The French, sadly, has faded..... if I
ever stop building boats long enough, I sincerely hope to get it back, and
for the last few days I've really been trying hard!
Paul Lefebvre, no capital F please, and leave the -b-v-r- alone......
Peter Lenihan,on the shores of the St.Lawrence where the phone book up
here has pages full of Lefebvre who have no problem with French at
all...............
I had to laugh at your remark about the phone book - in most places in the
US, people don't know what to make of my name, and always try to correct the
spelling for me. But I have more than once been in a situation, in
French-speaking areas of the world, of finding my pronunciation of my own
name drew chuckles from those who could say it better than I.......
My grandmother, born right below the Funiculaire on Rue Petit Champlain in
the old city of Quebec (a very long time before anyone thought to clean it
up and line it with tourist boutiques), saw to it that I was raised speaking
both French and English..... however since her passing, I have been
'serially bilingual', at various times fluent in Polish, German, a little
Russian; then I married a Brazilian, and now speak Portuguese full-time at
home (and half the time at work). The French, sadly, has faded..... if I
ever stop building boats long enough, I sincerely hope to get it back, and
for the last few days I've really been trying hard!
Paul Lefebvre, no capital F please, and leave the -b-v-r- alone......
Peter Lenihan,on the shores of the St.Lawrence where the phone book up
here has pages full of Lefebvre who have no problem with French at
all...............
Hello Paul,
I've been caught out twice in gale conditions and have yet to have
water in through the ventilators.To give you a sense of what I mean by
the conditions,imagine winds howling contrary to the river
current.Very steep wave formations with crests near 5 feet.Had to slug
under power against this stuff once and routinely saw water coming
over the mast partners over a 6 hour haul.The other time was a whole
lot easier as I happened to be heading in the same direction as the
waves.Exciting stuff with the odd wave almost burying the
outboard.Still,no water entered through the ventilators.
I am not entirely certain why this was so since there was no
shortage of water around but I suspect that by installing your screen
from the outside,in a simple frame structure,it serves to greatly
reduce the actual force of the water trying to get inside the
ventilator box proper.Keep the inside upper edge of the box above the
bulkhead opening and you will be fine.Some have even used plexi-glass
for this piece to allow additional light into the cabin.
As to your question about closing up the forward section etc...,I
must confess that I have not used any floatation anywhere.Bellow the
floorboards in the forward well,I have a wonderfully secure and ample
area for my two anchors plus chain and rode.
The reason for the apparent recklessness of the decision to go
foamless is simple;when you know that the only thing keeping you
afloat is the integrity of that watertight volume(the hull) two things
always stay with you,1)the need to ALWAYS wear your PFD and 2)a
focused application of prudence and good"seamanship"each time
you leave the dock...call it defensive sailing.It certainly makes you
aware of how respondsibility should be carried.
Congradulations on your sail making efforts!Hopefully you'll pick
up enough momentum to"sail" right through the construction
phase!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,on the shores of the St.Lawrence where the phone book up
here has pages full of Lefebvre who have no problem with French at
all...............
I've been caught out twice in gale conditions and have yet to have
water in through the ventilators.To give you a sense of what I mean by
the conditions,imagine winds howling contrary to the river
current.Very steep wave formations with crests near 5 feet.Had to slug
under power against this stuff once and routinely saw water coming
over the mast partners over a 6 hour haul.The other time was a whole
lot easier as I happened to be heading in the same direction as the
waves.Exciting stuff with the odd wave almost burying the
outboard.Still,no water entered through the ventilators.
I am not entirely certain why this was so since there was no
shortage of water around but I suspect that by installing your screen
from the outside,in a simple frame structure,it serves to greatly
reduce the actual force of the water trying to get inside the
ventilator box proper.Keep the inside upper edge of the box above the
bulkhead opening and you will be fine.Some have even used plexi-glass
for this piece to allow additional light into the cabin.
As to your question about closing up the forward section etc...,I
must confess that I have not used any floatation anywhere.Bellow the
floorboards in the forward well,I have a wonderfully secure and ample
area for my two anchors plus chain and rode.
The reason for the apparent recklessness of the decision to go
foamless is simple;when you know that the only thing keeping you
afloat is the integrity of that watertight volume(the hull) two things
always stay with you,1)the need to ALWAYS wear your PFD and 2)a
focused application of prudence and good"seamanship"each time
you leave the dock...call it defensive sailing.It certainly makes you
aware of how respondsibility should be carried.
Congradulations on your sail making efforts!Hopefully you'll pick
up enough momentum to"sail" right through the construction
phase!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,on the shores of the St.Lawrence where the phone book up
here has pages full of Lefebvre who have no problem with French at
all...............
--- In bolger@y..., "Paul A. Lefebvre, Jr." <paul@w...> wrote:
But since ventilators came up, I wanted ask another
question
> of experienced Micro sailers - how is that front ventilator in a
good chop?
> Have you ever had alot of water come through it?
> Another, related question - can anyone see a down side to closing
(with
> plywood) and then glassing in the foam flotation in the front well,
creating
> a sealed floor in the place where the slats ought to be?......
meanwhile I'd better start brushing up on my
french.......
>
> Paul Lefebvre
>
> "...un profond plaisir attendre
> > chaque menuisier aprés l'exercice de sablage suivi par
l'application
> > de pluisieurs couches de l'huile de lin(bouillir)sur le
morceau de
> > bois
This
group continues to amaze me with its creativity, and not just in
boatbuilding!
I'm
glad this thread came up, as I've also been wondering about
opening portlights for my Micro. Sounds like a bad idea all around, and not
just the expense (!). But since ventilators came up, I wanted ask another
question of experienced Micro sailers - how is that front ventilator in a
good chop? Have you ever had alot of water come through it? I have been thinking
of ways to modify it slightly, perhaps with a slot so I could drop a board
in there when bucking through Buzzard's Bay chop, and another board with a
screen insert for nighttime... what do you guys think? And what about getting
'pooped' thru the aft ventilator - ever happen? I've considered replacing these
ventilators with a couple of sealing plastic hatches, the clear plastic type,
that could be opened when at anchor, closed up for sailing - got the idea here:http://homepages.apci.net/~michalak/15jan01.htm,
4th photo down in discussion of tabernacles... But then the master must have
known what he was doing when he drew those magazine racks,
right?
Another, related question - can anyone see a down side
to closing (with plywood) and then glassing in the foam flotation in the front
well, creating a sealed floor in the place where the slats ought to be? A few
weeks ago there was discussion about how certain critters like to eat flotation
foam, and that combined with mud, sand, etc. getting under the deck and around
the foam, seems like it would be a big mess. If I put the foam under a
sealed floor, the well would be easier to hose out, and about the only
drawback I can see is that the drainholes would be up higher, and
hence more visible... as would any stains on the hull due to stuff draining
out of them I guess..... any comments?
I'm
still a ways off in terms of actually building the bulkheads/ventilators, am
just trying to get it all sorted out in my head, so the building can go quicker;
but still I'm feeling very good today, 'cuz yesterday I began actually building
my Micro, in a way - started sewing sails! I'll put in a plug for
Sailrite kits - they were very friendly over the phone, helped me think
through the final decisions on reef points, etc. The kit came just a few days
later, very neatly organized, they mark and explain everything clearly, and
it is the easiest sewing I've ever done. My mizzen is almost together after
only 2 1/2 hours of sewing on my mother's forgotten 1957 japanese sewing
machine, recently scavenged and cleaned up for the occasion. Of course I still
have to do alot of hand sewing work on leather chafe guards and sewn
grommets, which will be nice activities for long winter evenings in
the warm living room, when the basement workshop is still just a little too
chilly for epoxy to kick in a reasonable amount of time. But it is satisfying to
finally have something material happening to push this project forward, and not
just in my head! If last night was any example, these sails ought to come
together in very short order, then it's on to spars...... meanwhile I'd better
start brushing up on my french.......
Paul
Lefebvre
"...un profond plaisir attendre
> chaque menuisier aprés l'exercice de sablage suivi par l'application
> de pluisieurs couches de l'huile de lin(bouillir)sur le morceau de
> bois
I have no idea how all this started, but keep it
up!!
James Fuller
----- Original Message -----From:ellengaest@...Sent:Sunday, February 11, 2001 9:15 PMSubject:[bolger] Re: Opening portlights on Micro?Hello Chuck,
I am surprised you know of Mr.Camberneaux!Although I have read
most of his books,including the now sadly out of print "Les Bateau de
Liège" and "Découverte dans La Cale" ,I much prefer his writings from
the periode(1958-1964) when both he and St.Germaine were in
partnership.This really became a case of the student(Camberneaux)
surpassing the master(St.Germaine).
Regretably,little is known of their work on this side of the
Atlantic.A shame since the method developed by Camberneaux for
creating laminated beams is somewhat superior to the stuff we have
been fed here from the Gougeon brothers et al.The same can be said for
spar making and much grief could be spared were one to seriously
study"Les Baguette Dans L'Aire et La Ceinture Ouvert" especially the
section on free stand structures/columns.
Did you know that the cause for the ending of their partnership
occured when Yves Camberneaux came across his partner attempting a
grand jeter over the elegantly exposed figure of Camberneauxs'
mistress who had taken certain liberties with the drafting table and
its' various tools?Nasty stuff indeed!Shortly thereafter,St.Germaine
reportedly took his own life after having been refused entry into the
U.S.A..However,there are some who say this is not so.Sorta of like the
intrigue that surrounded Authur Piver a long time ago.
Anyway,glad to see that his writings(or at least some of them)
have made it over to the states!
Sincerely,
Peter lenihan,on the shores of the St.Lawrence..........
--- In bolger@y..., "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@d...> wrote:
> My dear Peter:
>
> This is all true, and M. St. Germaine is a woodworker of no small
import.
> That said, the great Yves Camberneaux, a major expert on tools, said
in his
> definitive work - "Amusement avec des outils de travail du bois" -
and I
> quote:
>
> Même le charpentier expérimenté doit toujours se rappeler ceci: en
> travaillant avec du bois, maintenez toujours cet outil un le plus
important
> dans le pantalon.
>
> I think that about says it all.
>
> Chuck
>
> Chuck,
> In Sébastien St.Germaines' excellent treatise on the
fundementals
> of woodworking,Le Science et Pratique de Le Maître Menuisier,he
> devotes an entire chapter to this very question!Specifically and I
> quote;"Chaque menuisier doit s'assurer que,avant de mettre son outil
> sur le bois,que le bois est belle et bien attaché sur une surface
> horizontale".A bit further along;"...un profond plaisir attendre
> chaque menuisier aprés l'exercice de sablage suivi par l'application
> de pluisieurs couches de l'huile de lin(bouillir)sur le morceau de
> bois".He goes on with many detailed descriptions regarding various
> methods but I won't bore you with these as most are simply regional
> variations on the theme and technically of little consequence
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan......... :-D
>
> bolger@y..., "Chuck
> Leinweber" <chuck@d...> wrote:
>
> By the way, you don't indicate where to
> apply the
> > sandpaper and oil. ;-]
> >
> > Chuck
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
> - no flogging dead horses
> - add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
> - stay on topic and punctuate
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
Bolger rules!!!
- no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
- no flogging dead horses
- add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
- stay on topic and punctuate
- add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
Hello Chuck,
I am surprised you know of Mr.Camberneaux!Although I have read
most of his books,including the now sadly out of print "Les Bateau de
Liège" and "Découverte dans La Cale" ,I much prefer his writings from
the periode(1958-1964) when both he and St.Germaine were in
partnership.This really became a case of the student(Camberneaux)
surpassing the master(St.Germaine).
Regretably,little is known of their work on this side of the
Atlantic.A shame since the method developed by Camberneaux for
creating laminated beams is somewhat superior to the stuff we have
been fed here from the Gougeon brothers et al.The same can be said for
spar making and much grief could be spared were one to seriously
study"Les Baguette Dans L'Aire et La Ceinture Ouvert" especially the
section on free stand structures/columns.
Did you know that the cause for the ending of their partnership
occured when Yves Camberneaux came across his partner attempting a
grand jeter over the elegantly exposed figure of Camberneauxs'
mistress who had taken certain liberties with the drafting table and
its' various tools?Nasty stuff indeed!Shortly thereafter,St.Germaine
reportedly took his own life after having been refused entry into the
U.S.A..However,there are some who say this is not so.Sorta of like the
intrigue that surrounded Authur Piver a long time ago.
Anyway,glad to see that his writings(or at least some of them)
have made it over to the states!
Sincerely,
Peter lenihan,on the shores of the St.Lawrence..........
I am surprised you know of Mr.Camberneaux!Although I have read
most of his books,including the now sadly out of print "Les Bateau de
Liège" and "Découverte dans La Cale" ,I much prefer his writings from
the periode(1958-1964) when both he and St.Germaine were in
partnership.This really became a case of the student(Camberneaux)
surpassing the master(St.Germaine).
Regretably,little is known of their work on this side of the
Atlantic.A shame since the method developed by Camberneaux for
creating laminated beams is somewhat superior to the stuff we have
been fed here from the Gougeon brothers et al.The same can be said for
spar making and much grief could be spared were one to seriously
study"Les Baguette Dans L'Aire et La Ceinture Ouvert" especially the
section on free stand structures/columns.
Did you know that the cause for the ending of their partnership
occured when Yves Camberneaux came across his partner attempting a
grand jeter over the elegantly exposed figure of Camberneauxs'
mistress who had taken certain liberties with the drafting table and
its' various tools?Nasty stuff indeed!Shortly thereafter,St.Germaine
reportedly took his own life after having been refused entry into the
U.S.A..However,there are some who say this is not so.Sorta of like the
intrigue that surrounded Authur Piver a long time ago.
Anyway,glad to see that his writings(or at least some of them)
have made it over to the states!
Sincerely,
Peter lenihan,on the shores of the St.Lawrence..........
--- In bolger@y..., "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@d...> wrote:
> My dear Peter:
>
> This is all true, and M. St. Germaine is a woodworker of no small
import.
> That said, the great Yves Camberneaux, a major expert on tools, said
in his
> definitive work - "Amusement avec des outils de travail du bois" -
and I
> quote:
>
> Même le charpentier expérimenté doit toujours se rappeler ceci: en
> travaillant avec du bois, maintenez toujours cet outil un le plus
important
> dans le pantalon.
>
> I think that about says it all.
>
> Chuck
>
> Chuck,
> In Sébastien St.Germaines' excellent treatise on the
fundementals
> of woodworking,Le Science et Pratique de Le Maître Menuisier,he
> devotes an entire chapter to this very question!Specifically and I
> quote;"Chaque menuisier doit s'assurer que,avant de mettre son outil
> sur le bois,que le bois est belle et bien attaché sur une surface
> horizontale".A bit further along;"...un profond plaisir attendre
> chaque menuisier aprés l'exercice de sablage suivi par l'application
> de pluisieurs couches de l'huile de lin(bouillir)sur le morceau de
> bois".He goes on with many detailed descriptions regarding various
> methods but I won't bore you with these as most are simply regional
> variations on the theme and technically of little consequence
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan......... :-D
>
> bolger@y..., "Chuck
> Leinweber" <chuck@d...> wrote:
>
> By the way, you don't indicate where to
> apply the
> > sandpaper and oil. ;-]
> >
> > Chuck
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
> - no flogging dead horses
> - add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
> - stay on topic and punctuate
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
My dear Peter:
This is all true, and M. St. Germaine is a woodworker of no small import.
That said, the great Yves Camberneaux, a major expert on tools, said in his
definitive work - "Amusement avec des outils de travail du bois" - and I
quote:
Même le charpentier expérimenté doit toujours se rappeler ceci: en
travaillant avec du bois, maintenez toujours cet outil un le plus important
dans le pantalon.
I think that about says it all.
Chuck
Chuck,
In Sébastien St.Germaines' excellent treatise on the fundementals
of woodworking,Le Science et Pratique de Le Maître Menuisier,he
devotes an entire chapter to this very question!Specifically and I
quote;"Chaque menuisier doit s'assurer que,avant de mettre son outil
sur le bois,que le bois est belle et bien attaché sur une surface
horizontale".A bit further along;"...un profond plaisir attendre
chaque menuisier aprés l'exercice de sablage suivi par l'application
de pluisieurs couches de l'huile de lin(bouillir)sur le morceau de
bois".He goes on with many detailed descriptions regarding various
methods but I won't bore you with these as most are simply regional
variations on the theme and technically of little consequence
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan......... :-D
bolger@y..., "Chuck
Leinweber" <chuck@d...> wrote:
By the way, you don't indicate where to
apply the
- no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
- no flogging dead horses
- add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
- stay on topic and punctuate
- add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
This is all true, and M. St. Germaine is a woodworker of no small import.
That said, the great Yves Camberneaux, a major expert on tools, said in his
definitive work - "Amusement avec des outils de travail du bois" - and I
quote:
Même le charpentier expérimenté doit toujours se rappeler ceci: en
travaillant avec du bois, maintenez toujours cet outil un le plus important
dans le pantalon.
I think that about says it all.
Chuck
Chuck,
In Sébastien St.Germaines' excellent treatise on the fundementals
of woodworking,Le Science et Pratique de Le Maître Menuisier,he
devotes an entire chapter to this very question!Specifically and I
quote;"Chaque menuisier doit s'assurer que,avant de mettre son outil
sur le bois,que le bois est belle et bien attaché sur une surface
horizontale".A bit further along;"...un profond plaisir attendre
chaque menuisier aprés l'exercice de sablage suivi par l'application
de pluisieurs couches de l'huile de lin(bouillir)sur le morceau de
bois".He goes on with many detailed descriptions regarding various
methods but I won't bore you with these as most are simply regional
variations on the theme and technically of little consequence
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan......... :-D
bolger@y..., "Chuck
Leinweber" <chuck@d...> wrote:
By the way, you don't indicate where to
apply the
> sandpaper and oil. ;-]Bolger rules!!!
>
> Chuck
- no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
- no flogging dead horses
- add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
- stay on topic and punctuate
- add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
Chuck,
In Sébastien St.Germaines' excellent treatise on the fundementals
of woodworking,Le Science et Pratique de Le Maître Menuisier,he
devotes an entire chapter to this very question!Specifically and I
quote;"Chaque menuisier doit s'assurer que,avant de mettre son outil
sur le bois,que le bois est belle et bien attaché sur une surface
horizontale".A bit further along;"...un profond plaisir attendre
chaque menuisier aprés l'exercice de sablage suivi par l'application
de pluisieurs couches de l'huile de lin(bouillir)sur le morceau de
bois".He goes on with many detailed descriptions regarding various
methods but I won't bore you with these as most are simply regional
variations on the theme and technically of little consequence
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan......... :-D
bolger@y..., "Chuck
Leinweber" <chuck@d...> wrote:
By the way, you don't indicate where to
apply the
In Sébastien St.Germaines' excellent treatise on the fundementals
of woodworking,Le Science et Pratique de Le Maître Menuisier,he
devotes an entire chapter to this very question!Specifically and I
quote;"Chaque menuisier doit s'assurer que,avant de mettre son outil
sur le bois,que le bois est belle et bien attaché sur une surface
horizontale".A bit further along;"...un profond plaisir attendre
chaque menuisier aprés l'exercice de sablage suivi par l'application
de pluisieurs couches de l'huile de lin(bouillir)sur le morceau de
bois".He goes on with many detailed descriptions regarding various
methods but I won't bore you with these as most are simply regional
variations on the theme and technically of little consequence
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan......... :-D
bolger@y..., "Chuck
Leinweber" <chuck@d...> wrote:
By the way, you don't indicate where to
apply the
> sandpaper and oil. ;-]
>
> Chuck
> I'd start with 120 grit and work up to 1000 grit before a liberalCabin fever, indeed! I thing it might be a little to much of that wine that
> soaking in boiled linseed oil to hold off the rot and give a smooth
> satiny feel. ;-)
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan,cabin-fever victim,on the shores of the St.Lawrence.....
>
you seem to admire so. By the way, you don't indicate where to apply the
sandpaper and oil. ;-]
Chuck
--- In bolger@y..., porcupine@d... wrote:
. Now if I can just decided whether to mount that
well-endowed
> mermaid figurehead on the boat....
>
David,
I would address this quandary with great caution!There may exist
laws in your state which specifically prohibit mounting"well-endowed
mermaid figureheads",especially in public!I would at least wait until
I was in some secluded cove,after dark,when the temperature drops a
few degrees and even then I would be inclined to mount her within the
cabin.
Not that the cabin is really necessary to hide in,afterall,you
will have chosen a secluded cove and it will be dark outside,but
rather something will be needed to muffle the blood-curdling howls as
the first splinter drives home into your member most
perpendicular.......
I'd start with 120 grit and work up to 1000 grit before a liberal
soaking in boiled linseed oil to hold off the rot and give a smooth
satiny feel. ;-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,cabin-fever victim,on the shores of the St.Lawrence.....
Gavin,
Thanks for the information. Based on cost, risk, and a universal
negative response from the list, I've decided against opening ports on
my Micro. Now if I can just decided whether to mount that well-endowed
mermaid figurehead on the boat....
david (porky) galvin
Thanks for the information. Based on cost, risk, and a universal
negative response from the list, I've decided against opening ports on
my Micro. Now if I can just decided whether to mount that well-endowed
mermaid figurehead on the boat....
david (porky) galvin
--- In bolger@y..., "Langmuir" <llangmuir@v...> wrote:
> Greetings,
> I use my Long Micro Thylacine here on Melbourne's Port Philip Bay
and have
> twice seen green water through the ports.......
> Regards, Gavin langmuir.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <porcupine@d...>
> To: <bolger@y...>
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 3:53 AM
> Subject: [bolger] Opening portlights on Micro?
>
>
> > I have been considering construction of a Micro for a long time
now.
> > I haven't really made up my mind on the configuation I want, but
> > assuming I want the original hull, would the benefits of opening
> > portlights (increased ventilation) outweigh the risks (flooding
> > secondary to a knockdown). It should be noted that I hope to use
this
> > boat on bodies of water somewhat larger than the average Catskills
> > cow pond (Eleuthera, anyone?),
> >
> > porky
> >
> >
> >
> > Bolger rules!!!
> > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, or spamming
> > - no flogging dead horses
> > - add something: take "thanks!" and "ditto!" posts off-list.
> > - stay on topic and punctuate
> > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> >
> >
Greetings,
I use my Long Micro Thylacine here on Melbourne's Port Philip Bay and have
twice seen green water through the ports.......
Regards, Gavin langmuir.
I use my Long Micro Thylacine here on Melbourne's Port Philip Bay and have
twice seen green water through the ports.......
Regards, Gavin langmuir.
----- Original Message -----
From: <porcupine@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 3:53 AM
Subject: [bolger] Opening portlights on Micro?
> I have been considering construction of a Micro for a long time now.
> I haven't really made up my mind on the configuation I want, but
> assuming I want the original hull, would the benefits of opening
> portlights (increased ventilation) outweigh the risks (flooding
> secondary to a knockdown). It should be noted that I hope to use this
> boat on bodies of water somewhat larger than the average Catskills
> cow pond (Eleuthera, anyone?),
>
> porky
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David,
Before blowing bucks on opening portlights,consider that the boat
will lay nose to the wind when at anchor or at a mooring and thus very
little breeze will ever come through them.The vent in the forward
bulkhead working in concert with the one aft allows for
through-ventilation and can be augmented by simply opening the
hatch a bit if you are on board.When sailing,it would be safest to
have no openings in the side.....just in case you put her over.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,awake since dawn from winds over 90Kmh,on the shores of
the St.Lawrence.........
Before blowing bucks on opening portlights,consider that the boat
will lay nose to the wind when at anchor or at a mooring and thus very
little breeze will ever come through them.The vent in the forward
bulkhead working in concert with the one aft allows for
through-ventilation and can be augmented by simply opening the
hatch a bit if you are on board.When sailing,it would be safest to
have no openings in the side.....just in case you put her over.
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,awake since dawn from winds over 90Kmh,on the shores of
the St.Lawrence.........
--- In bolger@y..., porcupine@d... wrote:
> I have been considering construction of a Micro for a long time now.
> I haven't really made up my mind on the configuation I want, but
> assuming I want the original hull, would the benefits of opening
> portlights (increased ventilation) outweigh the risks (flooding
> secondary to a knockdown). It should be noted that I hope to use
this
> boat on bodies of water somewhat larger than the average Catskills
> cow pond (Eleuthera, anyone?),
>
> porky
--- In bolger@y..., porcupine@d... wrote:
it will). He thinks that opening ports tend to be open at the wrong
time, and one doesn't know when this is until it is too late.
Vance
> would the benefits of opening portlights (increased ventilation)outweigh the risks (flooding secondary to a knockdown).
> porkyBolger is a believer in Murphy's law (if something can go wrong,
it will). He thinks that opening ports tend to be open at the wrong
time, and one doesn't know when this is until it is too late.
Vance
I have been considering construction of a Micro for a long time now.
I haven't really made up my mind on the configuation I want, but
assuming I want the original hull, would the benefits of opening
portlights (increased ventilation) outweigh the risks (flooding
secondary to a knockdown). It should be noted that I hope to use this
boat on bodies of water somewhat larger than the average Catskills
cow pond (Eleuthera, anyone?),
porky
I haven't really made up my mind on the configuation I want, but
assuming I want the original hull, would the benefits of opening
portlights (increased ventilation) outweigh the risks (flooding
secondary to a knockdown). It should be noted that I hope to use this
boat on bodies of water somewhat larger than the average Catskills
cow pond (Eleuthera, anyone?),
porky