November 2000
Useful wood site (1 message)
Wed Nov 01 2000
Brought to us from our friends from the US Forest service, I thought it might be useful to some of you. Covers woods from around the world, not just US. Not
Modified Junebug (1 message)
Wed Nov 01 2000
George Fulk was kind enough to take some great photos of our messabout on Grand Lake, Oklahoma, October 21. I put two new photos of my modified June Bug in
Re: junk sails (3 messages)
Wed Nov 01 2000
Cliff, I have never sailed on one. All I know is what I have read. A famous small boat, JESTER, sailed with a junk rig in the first singlehanded transatlantic
Re: [bolger] Re: Micro keel/Navigator rig (10 messages)
Wed Nov 01 2000
The list has cycled through keel casting before, but since there are some new builders it might be worth repeating the following: Lead can be melted on the
Larger than E. Punt (1 message)
Wed Nov 01 2000
I like the simplicity of the Elegant Punt, but I need a larger boat. Have you considered Jim Michalak s Pickup Pram and his two variations with a flat bottom
Re: "Mostly Cabin" Boats (13 messages)
Wed Nov 01 2000
... they? ... George, I scanned it shortly after you requested it. A confirmation message was sent out when I uploaded it. It s currently the third item down
Re: Blundered Pointy Skiff Near Completion (3 messages)
Wed Nov 01 2000
... a ... it. ... pretty finish ... Hehe...Good to know someone else is in the same boat so to speak! Pictures are now up under the Skiffy folder. More to
Dakota project update (1 message)
Thu Nov 02 2000
All, I just replaced several photos in my Dakota folder in the files with a few that show her current stage of construction. At present she is a big open skiff
Re: [bolger] DIY Boat Design (11 messages)
Thu Nov 02 2000
... David: One thing I learned is to do your gambling on a small boat. My disaster was small and not too expensive. You are right though, about the
Lead vs. Water Ballast (1 message)
Fri Nov 03 2000
FBBB -- Pippo s assertion is correct. Assuming the same center of mass, an equal mass of lead or water will function the same in ballasting a boat. But as I
Re: [bolger] Changing iron ballast to water ballast (2 messages)
Fri Nov 03 2000
Paul: I think you are right on, but then I like water ballast. Chuck ... Nina
Re: [bolger] Shoal draft and self-righting (14 messages)
Fri Nov 03 2000
I agree with all of this. See other posts. Jeff ... From: Brand, Christopher To: Sent: Friday, November 03,
Design rules of thumb. (1 message)
Fri Nov 03 2000
Folks, Just a general comment pertaining to this Rule of Thumb thing. Design rules of thumb are what they say they are, general rules that generally apply in
Article on Latex Paints (1 message)
Fri Nov 03 2000
Good article on latex paints from a good magazine, Fine Homebuilding. http://www.taunton.com/fh/features/materials/paint/1.htm Glen Glen Gibson Senior Product
Re: [bolger] Digest Number 261 (1 message)
Fri Nov 03 2000
thanks, Steve. I found it shortly after sending that e-mail. Sometimes I can t find my glasses on my nose!! As far as I know, no one has built a clam skiff
Re: [bolger] Space in files (5 messages)
Sat Nov 04 2000
Greg, As the owner of the Oldshoe list, I would be happy to loan you some of our file storage space if you can t get some additional space just by asking
Re: [bolger] Re: Physics? (37 messages)
Sat Nov 04 2000
... I agree! Lets give this one a rest. Chuck
Watertank (1 message)
Sat Nov 04 2000
I have a 40 gal Hot Water heater free for the taking. It is a working model and I care not if you want to use it to heat water or pour lead. It is located in
Re: Barnacle bottom cleaning/sandpaper (4 messages)
Sun Nov 05 2000
Jim, Its probably too late for this, but a good rule of thumb is to remove as much as you can while the bottom is still wet. Removing the pads is easiest if
Modifications (1 message)
Mon Nov 06 2000
Few things are more fun than looking at a design and planning modifications that would make it better for my purposes. But few things are more
Re Junk rig (1 message)
Mon Nov 06 2000
I found this sight a long time ago and it has some interesting ideas under the Library/Arne K s experimental rig heading. The man seems to be implying that
Re: Mid Atlan. Modified Gypsy (3 messages)
Mon Nov 06 2000
Dear Pete, The space under the foredeck is completely sealed. The deck starts at the bulkhead just forward of the mast. He sealed up this bulkhead. The seat
[bolger] Re: Oh No! (LSx2) (9 messages)
Mon Nov 06 2000
I ve been fooling around with interior arrangements for the galley and think I ve got something that makes allusions towards workable. I ran the entire galley
Re: [bolger] Digest Number 268 (5 messages)
Mon Nov 06 2000
I must say I m getting a bit tired of this old stuff that keep re-appearing in the list. Ask any physicist - mass is mass - whatever it s made of, above OR
Re: Theoretical Overload?? (3 messages)
Mon Nov 06 2000
... many recent threads would be at least as appropriate to the Boatdesign eGroup as to the Bolger List. As examples, the Physics and Design Question
Re: More big sharpie thoughts (5 messages)
Tue Nov 07 2000
David There was a bolger design that I read of in Messing aboutin boats it was ment to be built in austrailia or New Zealand and sailed to england where its
Watervan and a 'Sea Flea' (1 message)
Tue Nov 07 2000
While walking the dogs the other day and zoning out about boats, it came to me that the hull form of Bolger s Watervan is somewhat reminiscent of a sea
Twilight in paradise (1 message)
Tue Nov 07 2000
Sorry David, ... you still have to wait a couple of years I guess. But you can go to www.leow.de/twilight instead and have a look at my latest drawing showing
Single handedly getting a boat onto the roof . .. (1 message)
Tue Nov 07 2000
Hi, My single-handed scheme is this:- Lash an oar (or spar) onto the front roof bar, sticking out sideways from the car. Hoist the front end of the boat onto
Removable wheels (1 message)
Tue Nov 07 2000
Our discussion a month or two ago about removable wheels inspired the following contraption that mounts into the daggerboard slot of the boat. (With special
Re: Single Handed Schooner? (3 messages)
Tue Nov 07 2000
... I wouldn t claim to be able to give a definitive answer to the question, but I think that the heavy keel is a major factor. It reduces the need and effect
103 Small Boat Rigs (1 message)
Tue Nov 07 2000
FBBB -- 103 (101+2) Small Boat Rigs is now available at Payson s instant boat website (www.instantboats.com) YIBB, David A Teal called lil winnie A Light
Re: Bolger's Zephyr (3 messages)
Tue Nov 07 2000
... No. But... ... the ... Based on my one experience with a folding schooner, don t underestimate the effect of the boat being pretty long, and generally
(1 message)
Tue Nov 07 2000
Some of you gaff rigged guys may not know of a glorious old trick for reducing sail in a squall. Just let go the peak halyard; down swings the gaff, and you
Re: [bolger] Re: Keel Designs (6 messages)
Tue Nov 07 2000
No it was just a dumb typo - but I noticed it after I posted and thought actually it almost makes sense that way too :) Chris
Re: [bolger] Re: Shallow Draft/Bruce Kirby (17 messages)
Wed Nov 08 2000
Gavin L, After reading your and and Peter W s posts I searched a pile of doggeared mags and finally found that as Id feared my memory was on the fritz. The NIS
Re: [bolger] Re: Another design question (12 messages)
Wed Nov 08 2000
Pete Crown radius is h/2 + ((b**2)/8h) where b is the chord and h the max height of the crown above it, & B**2 = b squared. Jeff ps 23feet 5.1875inches is
Threads Changing to more appropriate groups (1 message)
Wed Nov 08 2000
Sorry Greg missed the stop sign. I think the boatdesign transfer idea is a goodone and we should do it where appropriate. One method could be to put up both
Rationale for scaled down FMS (1 message)
Wed Nov 08 2000
Having first admired J.Stephen Crim s FMS online, I was motivated to purchase Mr Bolgers Boats with an open mind . The abilities of the FMS under power as
Re: [bolger] intertainment (2 messages)
Wed Nov 08 2000
In a message dated 11/7/00 8:09:40 AM Central Standard Time, sailormon@torchlake.com writes:
Re: [bolger] Chebacco size? (2 messages)
Wed Nov 08 2000
Chris: Yes four times. I think four is the comfortable limit, three is better, but I ve gone daysailing with six. With six it was a bit slower in the light to
DEAD THREAD, THE END: [bolger] Re: Physics (and Water Ballast) (18 messages)
Thu Nov 09 2000
I couldn t resist to say something here. While I do agree that there are some reduntant postings here, they re no problem for me. The boss though made the
Re: Pointy Skiff Complete! Cartop help needed/Ashley book of Knots ... (20 messages)
Thu Nov 09 2000
The best knot I have found for cartopping is the trucker s hitch it is found (as well as all other knots) in the Ashley Book of Knots. This is a great
Re: Gypsy vs Cartopper (3 messages)
Thu Nov 09 2000
You can look at plans for both Gypsy and Cartopper, as well as a lot of other Bolger Boats at Harold Payson s site at http://www.instantboats.com/boats.html
Re: Pulling Boats (10 messages)
Thu Nov 09 2000
June Bug was designed by Phil for his own use as a heavy-duty tender to replace a worn-out dory. While you wouldn t have the easy rough water motion with June
Re: [bolger] Re: Pointy Skiff Cartop help needed ..Hitch Knot. (1 message)
Fri Nov 10 2000
... I have attached a word documet with a drawing in paint. If this does not open correctly, email me directly with your address and I will make one and mail
Re: [bolger] Re:"Head" room in a Chebacco (4 messages)
Fri Nov 10 2000
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Re: Glass Bottomed Boats and June Bugs (1 message)
Fri Nov 10 2000
Hi, When Peter Bevan had his website (now alas, gone) there was a pic of a glass (lexan?) bottomed Bolger Tortoise (6 foot punt). If I remember rightly it had
stability curves (1 message)
Fri Nov 10 2000
Anyone who has not seen the December issue of Woodenboat needs to find one and read Phil Bolger s article on shoal draft and self righting. This is a very
Re: More Port Townsend Pix (6 messages)
Fri Nov 10 2000
... Very interesting pictures. I spent some time looking at the Great Pelican. I think that a lot of people are missing out by not using a pram shape in
Re: Glass-bottomed boats (9 messages)
Fri Nov 10 2000
A friend of mine, planking up a 36ft roundbottom hull, left a hole near the bow. What s that for? I asked. A window for my wife to tell me how to navigate
balancing your martha jane (1 message)
Fri Nov 10 2000
I started out the sailing season last April determined to free myself of the tyranny of the helm. I daysail and cruise my Martha Jane. I tried a
Re: [bolger] Audrey Leinweber (4 messages)
Fri Nov 10 2000
... Chuck, You have a most remarkable daughter! The only thing I can say after reading her article is, please give her a big HUG from all of us on the list.
Audry Revisited (1 message)
Sat Nov 11 2000
Hip! Hip! A sharp girl there. Not only will this obsession help you towards yourself, it can maintain you in a crisis. Servicemen use this technique to keep
Re: [bolger] Bolger Article (3 messages)
Sat Nov 11 2000
I have one which we enjoy very much. Clyde
Re: [bolger] Re: winter cover technique (6 messages)
Sat Nov 11 2000
The first time I covered my car while abroad for the winter, I returned to find the cover
Chebacco News #32 (2 messages)
Sat Nov 11 2000
Hi, Sooner than expected, the latest Chebacco News is on the web (note change to URL). There s a great idea from Pete Respess on striking waterlines using
OOPS! Chebacco News #32 (1 message)
Sat Nov 11 2000
Sorry folks - I had a typo in the URL for the new Chebacco News. The corrected one is given below. Chebacco News can be seen at:-
Classic and Vintage Boat Festival (1 message)
Sun Nov 12 2000
WB magazine announces a Classic and Vintage Boat Festival Nov. 24-26 in Stuart, Florida. An informal weekend to celebrate classic watercraft of all kinds
Re: Birdwatcher on The Boat Shop TV show (2 messages)
Sun Nov 12 2000
... Used to be a summer Sunday afternoon favorite on NJ public TV a few years ago, Haven t seen it lately? Anyone in the Philly area know if it s still carried
Re: Catamarans (5 messages)
Sun Nov 12 2000
Frank, As a matter of fact, the Oct. 15, 2000 and Nov. 1, 2000 issues of MAIB have articles by Bolger describing his Double Eagle design # 657 a 40 ft.
Re: Martha Jane pre-launch photos (3 messages)
Mon Nov 13 2000
Mike, That is an impressive bit of work you have done there!!I hope all goes to your satisfaction at the test launch and that you will post some pictures of
Re: [bolger] Great free design software(off topic) (2 messages)
Mon Nov 13 2000
Bearboat can be found here (at least last time I looked): http://www.marinerkayaks.com/ ... -- John http://www.boat-links.com/ Never
Re: [bolger] Re: A Question on the Light Scooner (7 messages)
Mon Nov 13 2000
True, offsets can have any number of dimensions (even more than 3 for physicists). I m talking about the X-Y datapoints for laying out the sides. I did enter
Re: How do I get to the discussion group messages (3 messages)
Mon Nov 13 2000
Ken, The Main Page link on the left side of this page takes you to a month by month tally of previous messages. The number for each month is a link to that
not Bolger, but in the spirit of (1 message)
Mon Nov 13 2000
Dear Group, Today, I picked up a copy of David Gerr s book, The Nature of Boats . International Marine. It is loaded with discussions on ballast placement,
Re: [bolger] Re: Bolger Fast Houseboat and Good European Boat Page (19 messages)
Tue Nov 14 2000
I really don t know the complete story. What I do know is that I recieved a E-mail about two months ago that that stated that the owners of databoat were
10 things...polyurethane glue (1 message)
Tue Nov 14 2000
2. Polyurethane glue is not for me. I used some poly glue in this project, but its tendency to foam and expand made for some ugly joints. (I used quite a
10 things...neoprene glue (1 message)
Tue Nov 14 2000
3. Neoprene glue isn t bad. I used both a gel-type neoprene glue in a can (sold for gluing things to walls and ceilings) and a caulk-type in a tube, both
10 things...side frames (1 message)
Tue Nov 14 2000
5. Leave side frames a little shorter than sides. I admit that I didn t use top grade materials (exterior okoume ply and clear northern pine were expensive
10 things...power tools (1 message)
Tue Nov 14 2000
6. Essential power tools I splurged and bought myself a couple of cheap Chinese hand tools for this project (cordless drill, power plane, sander, all three
10 things...waterline (1 message)
Tue Nov 14 2000
7. Quick and dirty waterline Not having anything like a level floor or table large enough to work from, I had a hard time striking a waterline on this boat.
10 things...polystyrene foam (1 message)
Tue Nov 14 2000
8. Polystyrene foam is evil Neither of my first two boats had any built-in flotation. For a variety of reasons, among them my 13 month old son Fletcher (a
10 things...write it down (1 message)
Tue Nov 14 2000
9. Write it down While nothing that I have written here is earth-shattering news to anyone, I am very pleased to have written it down, if only for my own
10 things...??? (1 message)
Tue Nov 14 2000
10. Oops, there isn t really a number 10 I edited this as I went, combining a few things and cutting others, so from more that 10 points to share I ended up
Re: 10 things...polyester resin (2 messages)
Tue Nov 14 2000
Oops, that was the price of marine EPOXY resin, Epiglass I think, at the only boating store for miles. Matthew
Re: [bolger] 10 things...notching (2 messages)
Tue Nov 14 2000
Matthew, I m going the opposite direction.....the next Pointy Skiff, and anything thereafter, will have internal chine logs. I HATE glassing around those
Removable windows (5 messages)
Wed Nov 15 2000
Rick---In the topaz, I have at least four configurations of opening and removable windows. For removable ones I formed two full length L shaped framing
30 Odd Boats -- copy available (1 message)
Wed Nov 15 2000
Just noticed on Bookfinder.com there s a copy of 30 Odd Boats being offered for $20. I remember a few people on this list recently expressed the desire the
[no subject] (1 message)
Thu Nov 16 2000
I have heard that there is a number of Light Schooners racing as a one-design class in Nova Scotia. Does anyone know how to get in touch with them? Bill
Re: [bolger] Ipe (2 messages)
Thu Nov 16 2000
Here is some additional information on Ipe (perhaps even more than you might want) on Ipe from the US Forrest Service: Ipe, Bethabara, Lapacho Family:
www.bangthecorner.com (1 message)
Thu Nov 16 2000
Hello one and all, I will be brief.... www.bangthecorner.com is a fledgling web site looking for in put from sailors. At present we are interested in either
Re: Storm Petrel for Sale, need help with pricing. (2 messages)
Sat Nov 18 2000
Marc, I am in Vallejo and would love to see your boat. Could you e-mail me so we could set up a meet? binksboats@yahoo.com Thanks in Advance, Bink. ... the
Re: [bolger] Skiffy Floats! Story and Pics link ... (15 messages)
Mon Nov 20 2000
In a message dated 00-11-17 00:17:12 EST, you write:
mirco-thank you (1 message)
Mon Nov 20 2000
Thank you all for your advise. If I do use a junk rig, I will still keep it as a cat yawl. I haven t started building yet as I didn t want to start and then
(1 message)
Wed Nov 22 2000
If you please, who markets the plans for MICRO? Price? Thanks! Bill Wallace in Texas
Re: [bolger] (1 message)
Wed Nov 22 2000
Try www.common-sense-boats.com ... From: Bill Wallace To: Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 4:40 AM Subject:
Re: [bolger] (1 message)
Wed Nov 22 2000
You can buy them direct from PCB&F for $150 (I think that s what I paid anyway). This includes the Navigator option. JB ... From: Bill Wallace
Re: Skiffy throws a Tiffy. (8 messages)
Wed Nov 22 2000
The pointy skiff, even with the, um, modifications, isn t a dory at all, it s a flatiron skiff. Consider the cross-section of the immersed volume - when
Epoxying Appendages (1 message)
Wed Nov 22 2000
I am currently refinishing a Tender Craft Sportsman rowing skiff. Built in Toronto in 1987 and used on Muskoka Lakes, it is 16 feet LOA with a beam of 4-1/2 .
RE: [bolger] folding schooners (building of) (3 messages)
Wed Nov 22 2000
wattleweedooseeds@bigpond.com.au wrote ... Hi Paul, I find the idea of someone sailing anything, let alone a schooner, out of Kalgoorlie to be utterly
Re: Pointy Skiff #1 Launched (5 messages)
Thu Nov 23 2000
... LOL! They say boats emulate their builders ... :)
Florida Antique and Classic Boat Show (1 message)
Thu Nov 23 2000
To all; Anyone planning on attending the Antique and Classic boat show in Stuart, Florida, USA this Saturday (Nov. 25)? I m thinking about it, but I don t
Re: [bolger] Re: Loose Moose (8 messages)
Fri Nov 24 2000
After reading your post Bob I went and looked at the drawings of the Loose Moose. It appears that the rudder seems awfully small for a sharpie this size.
Part 2 of an article from Nautical Quarterly 21 (1 message)
Fri Nov 24 2000
More about PCB from NQ #21. Part II They didn t succeed. Bolger went to the combat engineers and his friend went to field artillery. Bolger was in the 1st Cay,
Re: Part 1 of an article from Nautical Quarterly 21 (woops) (3 messages)
Fri Nov 24 2000
I have no idea how I ended up replying to the original message thereby duplicating it. My son was on the computer at about this time so maybe he did something
Re: what happened to MAIB online? (5 messages)
Sat Nov 25 2000
... Ah, thanks be to St Harreshoff that dismal Mims site is gone. Yuck.
New Micro Pictures Posted (1 message)
Sat Nov 25 2000
Dear Bolger Group, I have just posted some new picture of the progress of the Micro Firefly . They can be viewed at http://www.ultranet.com/~djost/Micro.htm
Nymph near completion. (1 message)
Sat Nov 25 2000
Hi, I just posted a picture of my Nymph in the files, trim8.jpg. She is just about ready for a row. We had wet weather today so it postponed my painting the
Re: Bolger Camper #640 (8 messages)
Sun Nov 26 2000
The links below didn t work for me either. Just go to the files section and look under the Birdwatcher folder. The two files there are Bolger #640_1.jpg and
folding schooner thankyou (1 message)
Sun Nov 26 2000
thanks to all who replied to my query. tim , Ive surfed and printed your excellent website. manythanks. Have backtracked the archives.They answered many
greenhouse (1 message)
Sun Nov 26 2000
Finally, I rented a lot 2 km far from my appartment. I built a very simple greenhouse in it (12 x32 ). My neighbours?: a nice white horse, and some syberian
RE: [bolger] Jochems Family Schooner Info ??? (7 messages)
Sun Nov 26 2000
... Go to Edit- Preferences- Mail&Newsgroups- Identity and uncheck the box labelled Attach my personal card to messages (as a VCard) Bruce.
Re: Martha Jane revised - some trailer photos (2 messages)
Mon Nov 27 2000
... Super job. I must say that the revised MJ is more intriguing visually than the original. Your glass installation looks very neat. I am looking forward to
Martha Jane Revised - motoring on the water photos (1 message)
Mon Nov 27 2000
Here dey is... http://mkstocks.tripod.com/boats/martha_jane/motor_test/ I am currently curing the leeboards in the cellar. Will start the masts and dingy
Re: Heads (5 messages)
Tue Nov 28 2000
... This is how the heads on big Dhows are arranged, though over the side near the bows rather than at the transom (keeping in mind following winds . . .) The
Micro Cruising in the Bahamas (1 message)
Tue Nov 28 2000
Hi Group, The following web site may have,in the past, been posted here. But if not, it s worthwhile viewing. While the 15 foot wooden boat is not a Bolger
Re: [bolger] Cruising prams? (2 messages)
Wed Nov 29 2000
Matthew: I m kind of on a lapstrake kick too. Have you considered this: http://jordanwoodboats.com/dulci.htm It s a nice lapstrake ply pram. Don t know if it
Bolgeristic Houseboat seen on Web (1 message)
Wed Nov 29 2000
http://markvdesigns.com/
Re: Martha Jane Revised - a video clip (4 messages)
Wed Nov 29 2000
Hi - It was filmed with a digital camera so no conversion was necessary... Glad you liked it.. Mike ... into
Fiddler II & Watervan (1 message)
Wed Nov 29 2000
Does anyone know if any examples of Fiddler II have been built? A speculative design, Bolger No. 391, Fiddler II was presented in 30-Odd Boats. It s a 16-foot,
Re: Dolphins (10 messages)
Wed Nov 29 2000
Dolphins, ducks, whales, all depends on the shape of the heavy lead part. For a cheap but functional version try; A six inch 2 x 4 with a 16d nail driven 1/3
Re: [bolger] Is Birdwatcher sheathed in fiberglass? (2 messages)
Wed Nov 29 2000
I worked it out at one time wanting to build one myself. The topsides need 3 sheets of 1/4 , add 3-4 more for decks, bulkheads etc. The bottom eats a lot of
Re: [bolger] Part 3 of an article from Nautical Quarterly 21 (last one) (3 messages)
Wed Nov 29 2000
... You re welcome. I really enjoyed the life story of the man who give his name to this group. I d just love to have a reason to meet him! ... I was on the
Peter on the not yet frozen banks of the St. Lawrence? (1 message)
Wed Nov 29 2000
Peter, I don t have your email address handy, but I ll be in Montreal next week Wednesday Dec 6 through Saturday am Dec 9. I d be honored to make your
folding schooner update (1 message)
Thu Nov 30 2000
thursdays news. Finished second side of front hull. Attached timber (maranti) to bulkheads 2,4,6 and cut out for 7. my wife and epoxy mixing assistant bought
Re: bolger movie star (2 messages)
Thu Nov 30 2000
... and ... According to a story in the Times today, the Rose is considered to be the world s largest active wooden sailing vessel. The story is about
Re: MDO without glass? (11 messages)
Thu Nov 30 2000
... do ... I found some 3/8 MDO at our local lumberyard, (the fancy one with the Maitre De) and used it on the bottom of one half of the Folding Schooner
Re: [bolger] Re: Rascal Rule (5 messages)
Thu Nov 30 2000
Don t feel badly John. I thought it was a new item too! James Fuller ... From: John Ewing To: Sent: Thursday,