November 2003
Re: [bolger] depth of keel (3 messages)
Sat Nov 01 2003
According to PCB, the basic idea behind a deep keel is that the water near the surface is moved by the wind. A deeper keel is needed to make significant
A note from Bob Hicks. (1 message)
Sat Nov 01 2003
I wrote on my recent subscription renewal [sent to Bob Hicks] of Messing About in Boats that I missedBolger on Design article, and asked if he has heard of the
RE: [bolger] Re: Brick (9 messages)
Sat Nov 01 2003
Thanks Mark. What s different with this version? It s not any longer is it? --FrankB ... From: Mark [mailto:marka@highstream.net] Sent: Saturday, November
Re: filleting materials (8 messages)
Sat Nov 01 2003
If I was filleting with caulk instead of epoxy I would consider that approximately equivalent to filleting with air, so I d use extra layers of glass to make
Re: [bolger] brick outboard (2 messages)
Sat Nov 01 2003
Yes on why Bolger mounts the outboard on the bow. If you haven t cut the sides yet, leave them flat from the middle of the hull to the transom for a straight
Re: [bolger] Re: Looking for a book (4 messages)
Sun Nov 02 2003
... LOUISVILLE FREE PUBLIC LIBRARY WorldCat Detailed Record WorldCat results for: kw: Hugo and kw: Vihlen. Record 1 of 1. The stormy voyage of Father s Day /
Re: "Oldshoe" sold (4 messages)
Sun Nov 02 2003
... My Oldshoe has been sold. Many thanks for all the inquiries. Cheers, John C. Harris
November Messabout (2 messages)
Sun Nov 02 2003
Get out your pen and mark your calendar in ink, the location and date of the November California Delta Messabout has been set; Saturday, November 29th Windmill
Re: [bolger] Re: Looking for a sail/row boat (9 messages)
Sun Nov 02 2003
If you can find a group that has races, formal or informal, your sailing skills will advance by leaps and bounds. We used racing (with Optimist prams)
San Juan Rendezvous in 2004 (1 message)
Sun Nov 02 2003
Hi folks, The following is aimed at any list members within reach of the San Juan Islands. It is also being posted on the Western Oregon Messabout list. Hope
Re: Northern Lights (9 messages)
Sun Nov 02 2003
It s certainly not true that the purpose of a fillet is solely to provide a curved surface for the glass. But if your engineering concept is that the boat you
Re: [bolger] Pilothouse windows [was Bow Shed] (25 messages)
Sun Nov 02 2003
... In my case, dealing *neatly* with the goop, [siliconized caulk] was *not* easy. I predict that sliding the windows down a slot, will be messy, and will
curved wood (1 message)
Sun Nov 02 2003
Has anyone used this epoxy that is cured with ultra violet light or by high frequency sound. It does not set until all the componaents are all put tyogether,
Fast Brick, Brick tender (1 message)
Mon Nov 03 2003
As I recall from a quick look at the plans, the main thing that Fast Brick has in common with Brick is that they are both pretty ugly. I m afraid the file
Re: Lexan Gluing..[was Pilothouse windows] [was Bow Shed] (5 messages)
Mon Nov 03 2003
Lexan is really a pain to glue. I dunno, maybe epoxy would stick to it some. Solvent glues just bust it up. Someone responded to this question by immediately
tenders (1 message)
Mon Nov 03 2003
although i live in fla, i want to do some east coast/gulf coast cruising. mother ship will be a navy personnel boat 33 or 40, with owner supplied
RE: [bolger] Sailing groups. (2 messages)
Mon Nov 03 2003
Steve, I d add the Michalak and Openboat groups. Pretty much on-point to what you re interested in, and after reading the Openboat ers casual accounts of
Re: tender (6 messages)
Mon Nov 03 2003
Frank, Neither the plans/plansets I ve seen, nor the ones I ve purchased included tender plans . Regards, John
Lake Powell Messabout (1 message)
Tue Nov 04 2003
The LakePowellMessabout group has been formed to provide a forum for planning a Messabout sometime in September of 2004. As this messabout will be at a remote
Re: Which to build? (2 messages)
Tue Nov 04 2003
Mike, I have no experience with the car-topper, but I did build a similar boat one time and I also helped build a shellback. I expect that they are both good
lift bags (1 message)
Thu Nov 06 2003
They are called by different names depending on manufacture some are called lift bags or pillow bags, some are completely self inflating. example is one
fisherman's skiff (1 message)
Thu Nov 06 2003
anyone have pictures of Dynamites 12 fisherman s skiff. I m trying to decide between building the fisherman skiff and the pointy skiff... primary uses will
RE: boil tests (2 messages)
Thu Nov 06 2003
Many of us do NOT encapsulate every boat we build. Having lost my share of a very nice little boat from delamination when some snow got into it (we had thought
Re: Boil Testing Glues and Plywood (5 messages)
Fri Nov 07 2003
Hi Nels From David Carnell s studies glue lines are significant moisture barriers , even better than epoxy. Moisture might get trapped in the plywood. see:
Re: [bolger] Re: So much for that picture... (6 messages)
Sat Nov 08 2003
My apologies to your son. After importing the photo to Photoshop and enlarging it with higher resolution, it s obviously a fox. I guess I thought cat
Re: 18 ft Clam Skiff from Boats with an Open Mind (4 messages)
Sat Nov 08 2003
... empirical ... the ... I don t know except that Bolger designed the boat for Dynamite Payson according to his wishes. Payson likes to push row standing up.
plans for 33 foot lord nelson on ebay.......... (1 message)
Sun Nov 09 2003
hey everyone, having to move, just listed my glen-l lord nelson designs on ebay, its item number 3565031915 if anyone is interested, very fair bid price on
Re: Rose (30 messages)
Sun Nov 09 2003
How curious, what a coincidence and what a SURPRISE! Last week I was in Mallorca and bought a second hand book for 1 Euro in a street market just for the cover
Re: [bolger] Re: Membership denied (1 message)
Sun Nov 09 2003
Hi All - I m beginning to think that Bolger 2 had some sort of a glitch by noting all the folks that were bounced out or denied membership. I was a member
Re: [bolger] Drill Press or Drill Guide? (6 messages)
Sun Nov 09 2003
if i had some holes to drill and they had to be square/strait, id take a chunk of alluminum or mabee oak, 4 and take it to a drill press and make a drill
Re: [bolger] Re: Handmade Blocks? (6 messages)
Mon Nov 10 2003
Unlike ferrous metals, hot copper isn t easier to form. What you do is heat the copper red hot, then drop it into a bucket of water. This softens the copper so
Re: anchor storage (6 messages)
Mon Nov 10 2003
Thanks, Jamie I wonder if a piece of thin floating line were attached to the anchor rode at that 5 meter spot, just long enough to reach to the cockpit, but
Re: Where is Bruce Hector-fresh up-date (6 messages)
Mon Nov 10 2003
... anyone ... Bolgerados, Just got off the phone with Bruce Hector aka,Le Mouton Noir de Kingston,Le Baron de Kingston,TIMS mastermind,boatswain Bruce,small
Re: [bolger] MAIB Alert (2 messages)
Mon Nov 10 2003
Interesting, but my wife would kill me! Since it s media the US Postal Service would move it from Mystic, CT, to the Louisville area for $28 total for the
Re: [bolger] How much weight does fibreglassing add? (2 messages)
Mon Nov 10 2003
Visit System Three at http://www.systemthree.com/index_2.asp Muck about in Products to find their General Purpose Resin, then down in the lower left corner,
Re: WINDERMERE post script (8 messages)
Tue Nov 11 2003
... spend ... two ... Hi Frank, So that works out to about 25,8 hour days per year,or about a months worth of time dedicated toward boat building. It is a neat
RE: Windsprint vs June Bug (8 messages)
Tue Nov 11 2003
Sorry for the test message earlier. Technical assistance was trying to figure out why I couldn t send email. This is what I tried to post yesterday re. WS vs
Re: [bolger] Re: woods (7 messages)
Tue Nov 11 2003
The Lee Valley reprints are good quality books too. I ordered The Yankee Whaler from them, expecting a fuzzy facsimile reprint, since they only wanted
1957 Mongomery Ward 7-hp Outboard (1 message)
Tue Nov 11 2003
Anyone know where I might find a new prop for this engine?
Re: [bolger] Re: WINDERMERE update,photo alert. (19 messages)
Tue Nov 11 2003
Thanks Peter - I m glad that I won t have to need a forward CB on Champlain, I ve built too many of them in the past..... Sounds like Mr B has done his magic
New Small Sailboats User Group (1 message)
Tue Nov 11 2003
Hi, Although Phil has designed many types of boats, not all of them small, I hope you will forgive me for the following post: If you don t already know about
Re: [bolger] Who can use rig and parts from Penguin (2 messages)
Tue Nov 11 2003
I am very interested in your generous offer. Where are you located? Is it still available? Thank you, boblynn frboblynn@aol.com Park Forest, IL
Re: [bolger] Re: attaching rubrails (18 messages)
Wed Nov 12 2003
... The Navigator was designed for maximum safety on minimum boat for a global circum-navigation, and to that end she is quite clever; while my intended use
Re: [bolger] LED anchor lights (27 messages)
Wed Nov 12 2003
Yes, that is the best way to run the LEDs in standard configuration. To pulse them to double or triple the brightness, some type of timer and second stage is
openboat cruising... (1 message)
Wed Nov 12 2003
some nice pics and a bit of blurb on cruising an openboat in New Zealand (and Fiji) http://www.openboat.co.nz dp
Re: Chebacco's dinghy? (And armor plating the keel) (9 messages)
Fri Nov 14 2003
... perfect ... allowed ... sludge:- ... Hi Nels, If only it were true.......alas, the St.Lawrence where I sailed is a rock strewn affair.Remember,there is a
Old engine props (1 message)
Fri Nov 14 2003
Anyone know where I could find a prop for a 77, I think, Mongomery Ward outboard? Used is good. Thanks. JPS
Re: [bolger] Re: MOCCASIN (compressed) (10 messages)
Fri Nov 14 2003
For line drawings and text you ll get a smaller file, and better quality, by using GIF instead of JPEG (JPEG hates that kind of image!) and reducing the number
HMS ROSE (1 message)
Fri Nov 14 2003
In case somebody has missed this... http://www.tallshiprose.org/ Cheers, Nels
Re: [bolger] Re: ROSE Navigator (4 messages)
Fri Nov 14 2003
He surfaces! Kingston must be safe from road salt for yet another winter! Welcome back Bruce. You need to see the new Bell family mother ship, all 27 feet of
Longitude (1 message)
Sat Nov 15 2003
Haven t got to M&C yet, but if you like (what s the British equivalent to Hollywood?) s version of sailing, the movie (DVD) Longitude has some wonderful
Re: Turning over a boat during construction (3 messages)
Sat Nov 15 2003
Here s a different way, one low-tech way that worked just fine for me. I ve sent photos to Richard at the Chebacco website and if he uses them you might see
Re: Micro Navigator photos (13 messages)
Sat Nov 15 2003
... Gee Bruce,she is looking awefully fine!! I love the way the cabin top over-hangs the aft end of the cabin giving her a rather swank and jaunty aire. And
Re: visiting Gloucester in HMS Rose (2 messages)
Sat Nov 15 2003
I don t think we d have to worry about organized resistance in Gloucester if visiting in HMS Rose, particularly with its association with Bolger, who is
more on Rose (2 messages)
Sat Nov 15 2003
Perhaps if it really turns out that they are letting her rot we need to start a letter writing campaign. Although I suppose we could send Peter and Bruce to
Re: A Bolger Messabout With Phil & Susanne (long) (19 messages)
Sat Nov 15 2003
I grew up in Gloucester, so I can give some thoughts about what s where. I no longer live there, and so I have no local pull . But my mother still is there,
Re: [bolger] Re: Cut down Birdwatcher (11 messages)
Sun Nov 16 2003
I agree, there s nothing wrong with a big, double ended, open sailing skiffs but Birdwatcher s main feature is the unique type of cabin which makes them
Re: [bolger] Re: Port Townsend Wooden Boat Festival Pictures (3 messages)
Sun Nov 16 2003
It must really be cold up there on the St. Lawrence if all that rain at Port Townsend warms your heart! ;o) ... -- John
Re: Chebacco's dinghy (11 messages)
Mon Nov 17 2003
A Race. I can never pass up a sailboat race. How bout I tow my Hobie 16. (I m a bad loser.) That sounds great if I can figure out how to get my Toad there
Re: SuperBrick Challenge? (2 messages)
Mon Nov 17 2003
... David, Only Le Baron de Kingston knows for sure. It would be awefully nice if one did eventually get built and the pot paid out so that we could start
Re: [bolger] Re: LONG MICRO "Navigator" (36 messages)
Mon Nov 17 2003
You re right. It would not be too hard, in a limited application; e.g., 2 or 3 staples, to drill holes and sew the thing on with SS safety wire from the
Insolent 60 sail plan uploaded to Bolger3 (1 message)
Wed Nov 19 2003
It s in the Insolent 60 folder in the Photos section. Enjoy! -- Susan Davis
Re: I60 squeeeeeeee! (9 messages)
Wed Nov 19 2003
... I would rather see retractable tandem landing wheels with faired covers - like a WW2 flying boat. To get around that damn dam, just pull up to the ramp
Re: Insolent Drawing (8 messages)
Thu Nov 20 2003
... It s in the upper right corner above the photo: View: Screen Size | Full Size If you click the Full Size link, you get the full photo. Or click on the
Re: Alternate Dakota Profiles (2 messages)
Fri Nov 21 2003
Happy to oblige, Jeff. BTW, I have added two new photos in the PHOTOS folder Vince s Dakota . The hull is now painted. I still have a few interior details,
[bolger] Re: New I60 image (10 messages)
Fri Nov 21 2003
... satisfying: Exciting times. It s much better-looking than the original. ... I still remember the first time I saw it, standing in your living room thumbing
Re: [bolger] Re: ...of my own private Idaho (11 messages)
Fri Nov 21 2003
thanks for your thoughts and consideration for those in dependent wheeled vehicles. my youngest brother-in-law was a victim of a drink driver. he was a
OT: Email address for this group (1 message)
Fri Nov 21 2003
Hello: I am trying to set the address to receive individual messages from this group (and others) to my personal email address, but the Yahoo system gives me
Re: FrigginFraggin Spread Sheet! (3 messages)
Fri Nov 21 2003
David, In MS Excel put your formula in the first cell of the total column. highlight this cell and as many cells below in the same column as you wish. Ctrl-D
RE: [bolger] Re: Welcome to Battered Bolger Boat Land (2 messages)
Sat Nov 22 2003
Jeb, I can understand the too little time idea, but how can one have too many boats? --FrankB ... From: Jack &Lois [mailto:jalo@istar.ca] jeb, with too many
I have not forgotten my Bolgerista friends (1 message)
Sat Nov 22 2003
Hello to all Bolgeristas, I have been very busy doing tool reviews for boat-building friends. All of you fall into that category because Bolgeristas are even
Re:Re: I60 Wheel Wells/Launching (4 messages)
Sun Nov 23 2003
Not too long ago there was an article in SAIL Magazine about a boat that has wheels, sort of like aircraft landing gear, that can be lowered and used to winch
FS: AF-4 Mister Moon, SportDory (1 message)
Sun Nov 23 2003
My AF-4 Mister Moon is for sale. Includes boat, motor, and trailer. Boat: Built 2001. 3/8 MDO (2-sided) topsides and decks. 1/2 MDO (2-sided) bottom,
Re: [Bolger4Sale] FS: AF-4 Mister Moon, SportDory (1 message)
Sun Nov 23 2003
Sportdory has been sold. AF-4 remains. ... From: John Bell To: ; ;
Re: Sunday chat? (11 messages)
Sun Nov 23 2003
John Bell and I are online now, come on in!
Re: Finishing Bright? (6 messages)
Mon Nov 24 2003
I always tried to avoid varnish in the past until I built a kayak and used it. I was amazed at the ease of application, the durability, and the beauty of the
Re: 96' eight masted TIMS schooner (2 messages)
Mon Nov 24 2003
You never quit. I admire that. Now that might add some unusual forces to your Timmy . You might end up with Timmy The Snake . But still, a great Idea. I put
Re: Sitka Exlorer, casrtoon posted in Bolger3. (26 messages)
Mon Nov 24 2003
Found it. see the file Sitka Eplorer at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger3/files/ Bruce Hector
folding schooner vs light (1 message)
Tue Nov 25 2003
as anowner /builder of an FS here are a few thoughts before you begin. YOU need to take a big crew every time or have a good long shaft O/B to do the rowing.
Re: finish bright.... (2 messages)
Wed Nov 26 2003
Verrrry Interesting, I recall the name Steven Wilce - It was called Navigator? Was it a sharpie with a centerboard? How tall are the spars and what size and
Re: Paradox in the Bahamas (1 message)
Wed Nov 26 2003
I think the most important lesson from the Paradox sailers and builders is that they just do it. No endless dreaming about the ultimate, no multi-year bank
Re: Comments on keels from BWAOM (5 messages)
Wed Nov 26 2003
... collect ... Wow I never considered all those neat sea going noises and challenges. Just like being in a Chebacco - or even a Windermere:-) On second
Delta Messabout this Saturday? (1 message)
Wed Nov 26 2003
November 29th California Delta Messabout Alert Bolger, Michalak, Homebuilt and similiar boats, owners, builders, soon to be builders and friends are scheduled
Re: Insolent Long Micro Navigator:-) (20 messages)
Thu Nov 27 2003
... However, if one ... an ... as ... Hi Peter, It seems I misunderstood the full meaning of what you suggested about using an anchor to assist oneself from
Bolger Ski Boat (1 message)
Thu Nov 27 2003
I remember seeing a pic someplace of a ski boat designed by Bolger. I think the boat was from Australia. Any info appreciated. Bryant
Looking for John Tuma (1 message)
Fri Nov 28 2003
Hi Has anyone got John Tuma s snail mail or email address, or phone number in California? He was in Port Townsend last September but I didn t get any contact
11/29 Delta Messabout update (1 message)
Fri Nov 28 2003
Here are a few replies to my previous post that have come in from; a Meadowlark (the local knowledge guy, thanks for the report.) a Junebug (driving from SAN
RE: [bolger] bed liner for canoe (4 messages)
Fri Nov 28 2003
just a thought here but the spray on undercoating that is used to rust proof and help as a noise barrier on the underside or fenders of a car,is it the same
Delta Messabout (2 messages)
Sat Nov 29 2003
My apologizes to anyone that went to the Delta Messabout today looking for a red Microtrawler to show up. We didn t make it. We were all set to head out at
Re: Common Sense Boats... Idaho - Got plans :( (25 messages)
Sun Nov 30 2003
... wrote: Dear Maximo! I am glad to hear that you calmed down, you can´t really compare the Surfscoter plans with the Idaho plans, I think that the Idaho is
Re: [bolger]Truck bed liner (4 messages)
Sun Nov 30 2003
... Hey John, don t forget to keep us informed on *all* the details of your building project! Photos too!
Re: storm petrel (23 messages)
Sun Nov 30 2003
My model doesn t show the doghouse. As it s drawn, it s designed to be lashed down. I m thinking of just a flat plate so that the stuff in the cabin can be
Re: [bolger] Sunday nite chat? (5 messages)
Sun Nov 30 2003
I m on right now, if anyone wants to stop in for a bit. ... From: John Bell To: Sent: Sunday,