July 2002
Portage Pal Small Boat Trailers (1 message)
Mon Jul 01 2002
Does anyone have experience with portage pal road trailers? http://www.portagepal.com/ The T2000 sounds just about right for my Dobler. Dennis Marshall
1100 members (1 message)
Mon Jul 01 2002
I just noticed that there are 1100 members of this group now. Roger S
Re: [bolger] Bolger boats in fiberglass: Dovekie and [?] (10 messages)
Mon Jul 01 2002
Forgot to mention that there will be a minimum of two Shearwaters and two Dovekies, and a Martha Jane on our Magnum Opus (Peter Duff s words for our two week
Re: Chebacco's for sale (2 messages)
Mon Jul 01 2002
I saw a write up of this lapstrake model some time ago. It is worth every dollar that he is asking for it. The cost of materials is likely a bit more than
Re: [bolger] Digest Number 1084 . . . the $5.oo 'OOPS' (1 message)
Tue Jul 02 2002
Dave, The next time you re there, look at the color additive turntable . You should see one or two tubes marked OOPS . What happens is that they ADD some
Re: [bolger] Re: A five dollar failure (8 messages)
Tue Jul 02 2002
... I really recommend a good primer. Primers serve many useful purposes, and certainly pay for themselves in terms of looks, time, and money. I like to use
Bolger Ostar was AS-29 Self righting?? (1 message)
Wed Jul 03 2002
Many years ago when I first discovered Bolger in The Folding Schooner the OSTAR was a lot less competitive/bizarre than it is now. I gave a lot of thought to
Re: [bolger] Another Failure (3 messages)
Wed Jul 03 2002
I have tried to get away with not taping joints, just filleting, on the light stitch and tape boats, and it hasn t worked 100% of the time. To much flex in the
Re: [bolger] Found this while I was searching for Brick sail patterns (2 messages)
Wed Jul 03 2002
Here is a LS with a cutter rig... http://www.ecoastlife.com/2000cedarkey.html ... From: announcer97624 To:
Re: [bolger] Re: AS-29 Self righting?? (19 messages)
Wed Jul 03 2002
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Re: looking for Tony Groves (2 messages)
Wed Jul 03 2002
Tony Groves is mentioned here http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lagoon/6151/messabout.html
Re: Wyo problem (1 message)
Wed Jul 03 2002
Jeff, Here s what I did on the Dakota main cabin. First, The lower edge of the cabin side panels is cut to the curve of the shear, but the upper edge is the
AS-29 "Turning Party" (1 message)
Wed Jul 03 2002
Anyone in or near NY want to attend an AS-29 Turning Party? My project is nearing the point where the upside-down portion is done. It s time to turn her over
Re: [bolger] Electricians? - pretty much off-topic (2 messages)
Wed Jul 03 2002
Hi Bill Looks like fun :) The panel is obviously sold for a marine application (switch labels suggest). If it was originally intended for automotive use the
Re: [bolger] Re: Wyo problem (36 messages)
Wed Jul 03 2002
Jeff, It sounds like you won t need kerfs to solve your Wyoming cabin roof problem, but if it turns out you do, make them with a router and a thin veining or
1897 instant boat (2 messages)
Thu Jul 04 2002
We have finished and delivered the 1897 instant boat. http://209.193.28.16/Boats/Klondike/Klondike.htm It took us a few days longer than the guys in 1897, but
Re: [bolger] Happy 4th, but remember!! (2 messages)
Thu Jul 04 2002
Great comments, Steve. Does anyone know where I can buy a 12 by 18 or so sized Gadsen Flag? It s the rattlesnake flag, that is still legal and suitable to
Re: [bolger] Weighing trailer (3 messages)
Sat Jul 06 2002
... right -or is it? ... Weigh each wheel and the tongue on your scale, then total the weights.
Re: A question about a book that discusses Bolger. (7 messages)
Sat Jul 06 2002
... cruising ... though. ... on ... I am talking about building. TFJ will build one boat in foam core, the next in lapstrake, the next in taped chine and so
Re: 500 Lbs lead, Free! Near San Francisco (2 messages)
Sun Jul 07 2002
... Funny you should ask, because I need them! I am just starting on my quick and dirty Micro Navigator. http://www.hallman.org/bolger/micro/day01/ My first
Re: Dakota Album (4 messages)
Sun Jul 07 2002
... Not a la Topaz but a la Tahiti, a very appealing design in my opinion but I d like to see a Bolger project with Diesel-Electric propulsion; this system
Re: Request for ideas, opinions, information, contacts... (4 messages)
Sun Jul 07 2002
Leo - Perhaps you know of this site - http://www.geocities.com/seap21/marthajane.html btw - I ll be without a computer for a while. I d be happy to exchange
Re: finishing Micro (5 messages)
Sun Jul 07 2002
It is safe and sane advice like this that can turn an all day painting job into a few fun hours. Prep work should be tedious, paint should be fun with a spray
Lug on diff tacks was:Re: [bolger] Re: MJ Self righting?? (1 message)
Sun Jul 07 2002
I noted the essentially the same behavior with my Windsprint. One thing that really helped was to fit a parrel to the yard and install a strong purchase on
Re: foldingscoonerinOz Launched (2 messages)
Mon Jul 08 2002
... trailer, ... My limited experience of one unfold and one fold of Leander s schooner suggested to me that investment in some sort of crane/winch assembly
Biaxial - Bow Well - Sailing (1 message)
Mon Jul 08 2002
Biaxial Tape update. - continued from last week s post. Well after four tries, I finally got a test sample of 12 oz biaxial tape to have clean run-less,
Re: [bolger] Re: electrical panel (2 messages)
Mon Jul 08 2002
In a message dated 7/8/02 12:10:55 AM Central Daylight Time, ... It would be imprudent to assume any knowledge of things electrical on my part. In this case
Re: [bolger] Re: MJ Self righting?? (9 messages)
Mon Jul 08 2002
Steve- I guess I ll get the latest design updates from Bolger, and study some more. How does the boom gallows help you to reef? Do you lower all the sail,
folding your schooner (1 message)
Tue Jul 09 2002
folding and unfolding wasn t too bad . Remember that this was the first time for both. I reckon my for ard hull is probably on the heavy side also when
Re: pictures added to photo section (Micro) (3 messages)
Tue Jul 09 2002
I am staying with the fore and aft bunks on the trailer. The weight of the boat is sitting primarily on the keel rollers, the bunks are just keeping her from
Re: MICRO side panel thickness (2 messages)
Tue Jul 09 2002
Umut, It really is 6 mm. I reinforced the sides with a layer of 6 oz glass set in epoxy. It was very difficult to finish, but it is substantially stronger
RE: [bolger] Re: A more than $5 failure :-( (13 messages)
Tue Jul 09 2002
... Neat Trick! I ll remember that next time I m browsing the metal pile at the town dump - there are always discarded BBQ s, perhaps I can scrounge a motor
Re: [bolger] Re: Storing Epoxy (3 messages)
Tue Jul 09 2002
Just bought a couple of the pumps a month or so ago. They are identical, except there is a spacer inside one of them that keeps it from going down all the way.
2002 Vermont Messabout (4 messages)
Thu Jul 11 2002
I have posted, per special request, the details of the 2002 Lake Champlain Messabout to the files section. Look under Vermont Messabout 2002 Steve Bosquette
"Stretch" Gull (1 message)
Thu Jul 11 2002
Payson has plans for the Stretched Light Dory in tack and tape construction. I think the plans are $35.00. Looks nice for two rowers. The paper catalog is
Waste of Time (1 message)
Fri Jul 12 2002
A look at: http://www.geocities.com/howardstephenson/Condamine.html ... will reveal how much of my time is wasted. Some of it is Bolger-related. Please let me
Re: EEEK! (4 messages)
Sat Jul 13 2002
... frames to ... It was more trouble to (not) loft than I had planed for, but no bad surprises either. I did consider lofting it in Plyboats, but the fact
Re: Firefly goes! (2 messages)
Sat Jul 13 2002
David, Congratulations on your launch! She looks like a beaut from what I ve seen on your website. I have learned a lot from your building
Bolger Canoe Yawl pics (1 message)
Sat Jul 13 2002
A nice little Bolger canoe yawl is being produced by a builder. The photo galleries has high quality pics of this and other traditional boats, make good screen
Re: bright finish recommendations please (17 messages)
Sun Jul 14 2002
I wonder if I could cross match that color in a $20/gal. gloss latex
[bolger] Re: Oh No! Crash! Burn! Epoxy Failure!!! (4 messages)
Mon Jul 15 2002
... Two words: User Error I have no doubt my failure was because of a mismix. I eyeballed the ratio because seeing the fish busting outside got me too
Re: [bolger] Digest Number 1099 - Mahogany . . . fake it !! (1 message)
Mon Jul 15 2002
chodges , I m certain to be pilloried {at least over at the woodworking group}, but here goes a couple of suggestions . . . For small items {I haven t done
Re: [bolger] I-60 folding question (3 messages)
Mon Jul 15 2002
I think that the punch card on your fun license should be checked for over use. One of the most educational parts of the recitation of your recreational
Parting Lines and Cables (1 message)
Mon Jul 15 2002
I have to agree with David in regard to his mention of parting cables. As a 6 year Navy Veteran, the stories of death and disfigurement by parting cables under
Re: [bolger] Digest Number 1062 (1 message)
Mon Jul 15 2002
I find disposable foam brushes do a beautiful job of painting, especialy if over a nicely faired epoxy base. No brush strokes just beautiful smooth paint I
Re: Elegant Punt - epoxy keel (17 messages)
Tue Jul 16 2002
... have ... Been there done that, but I won t be able to attach, cleats to the bottom of my boat without some temporary fasteners, unless as has been
Re:as29 (3 messages)
Tue Jul 16 2002
... It s rare that they come up for sale. There was one recently in Canada, and another in Australia. But why buy? Build. It s fun, not as hard as it looks and
Re: Gypsy building ! (4 messages)
Wed Jul 17 2002
Congrats! Gypsy was my first boat - completed a couple of months ago and have been enjoying it immensely. I am now half-way or more through the construction of
Re: Motorsailers (2 messages)
Thu Jul 18 2002
What about PB s Fiji , 39 foot, step sharpie motorsailer, large pilot house, junk-ketch rig, masts in tabernacle, Deutz diesel, no though hull fittings, roomy
Re: The Dumb-OX (8 messages)
Thu Jul 18 2002
Can you laminiate a piece across the fracture from the inside, this wouldn t affect exterior hull fairness and would add strength at a point that is asking
Dallas area (3 messages)
Thu Jul 18 2002
Are there any builders in the Dallas area?
WTB: Black Skimmer (1 message)
Thu Jul 18 2002
I d like to buy a complete, ready-to-sail (or close to it) Black Skimmer preferably with the original rig. If you have one to sell, or know of one for sale, on
Re: SPD & Wyoming (11 messages)
Thu Jul 18 2002
Triple Bigfoot 25 s, now there s a plan. You d have two way out at the sides, perfect for maneuvering, the further apart they are the better the differential
Re: The Dumb-Ox -- replies and a question or two (4 messages)
Fri Jul 19 2002
... is ... Isn t ... may ... use ... that ... on. ... Agreed, stronger may just refer to the tensile strength of the yarn for a given weight. That has
Re: Gloucester Gull (37 messages)
Fri Jul 19 2002
... Such a thing could not possibly the best use of the necessary resources, for fishing or anything else. Extrapolating from the Gull through the I60, we
Bolger Houseboat (1 message)
Fri Jul 19 2002
A folder entitled Bolger Houseboat has been uploaded at Bolger2
Micro lead keel casting (1 message)
Sat Jul 20 2002
Here is an update on my progress building my Micro... http://www.hallman.org/bolger/micro/hour20/ Perhaps I should share my learning experience melting lead
Re: [bolger] Dory designs (3 messages)
Sun Jul 21 2002
Point of clarification: The bulkheads in Blackberry are temporary. I intended for builders to put in thwarts, but with a substantial breast hook in the stem
Re: [bolger] Cross planked bottoms (4 messages)
Sun Jul 21 2002
In a message dated 22-07-02 1:29:37 AM E. Australia Standard Time, ... In his discussion on AS29 in BWAOM, PCB says, refering to Jessie Cooper: After the
Re: Texas Dory Boat Plans (14 messages)
Sun Jul 21 2002
If it s the Coastal 22 in the Orrell info, it is not the same. Possibly similar, though it s hard to tell from the info, but the Beachcomber is shown with
AS-29 Construction pics (1 message)
Mon Jul 22 2002
I posted a few pics of the AS-29 I m building. They re in the AS-29 folder in the photos section. The pics show the rough-cut side panels in my backyard last
Re: AS-29 turning (6 messages)
Mon Jul 22 2002
... date. ... I m not sure about trailering. On the one hand, this boat is around 7,000 lbs dry which means you need a very serious tow vehicle. On the other,
Re: Modular Power Sharpie Concept (11 messages)
Mon Jul 22 2002
... If you have a completely enclosed boat, the ring frame is just a bulkhead that goes across the bottom, up the sides, and across the roof in one piece (can
News from Le cabotin (1 message)
Tue Jul 23 2002
Sorry to not have the time to update the site for Le Cabotin. But we have been working with Suzanne and Phil on some major change on the boat. Since we have
Re: [bolger] Digest Number 1113 - 'Glassing . . tools' (1 message)
Tue Jul 23 2002
... Dennis, I tend to agree with the other comments you ve been given, I jut like to add a few notes. To cut down chunks, runs, globs of filler . . . try a
Re: Glassing the Hull -- A Question (13 messages)
Tue Jul 23 2002
I generaly agree with Jamie. Only point would be that Ted s book came out before the WEST 207, S3, and MAS sheathing epoxies. These products may not require
Re: [bolger] Micro sails! Thoughts on rig layout. (11 messages)
Wed Jul 24 2002
Sounds like a fun sail! There doesn t have to be any tying involved at the clew. Make a loop of line to fit fairly snugly over the end of the sprit (an eye
photos of folding schooner in Oz (1 message)
Wed Jul 24 2002
Finally I managed to get the photos of our schooner into the photo section , Enjoy, Cheers Paul
Re: AS-39 being built in Canada. (24 messages)
Wed Jul 24 2002
The top off interior building is what s called for in Bolger s building key for both the AS 29 and 39. The hull is built upside down to the waterline, then
Re: Digest Number 1117 - Wood Flour sources (3 messages)
Wed Jul 24 2002
Lol, this makes me giggle. People will get way haughty and turn up their noses at the possibility of using wood flour but won t bat an eye at eating boiled
Re: Gypsy boatbuilding- Oh MY ! (3 messages)
Thu Jul 25 2002
Darrl, I must warn you now that mentioning your epiphany to non- proselytizing boat building zealots may result in your incarceration and subsequent heavy
Re: Sailling the micro just off shore. (5 messages)
Thu Jul 25 2002
David , I was just looking over some of the jiffy reefing hardware myself. Looks Like it could work once you figure where are the hardeware will go to make it
Re: Color of hull/Temperature/Epoxy (4 messages)
Thu Jul 25 2002
Thanks to both of you. Clarification: Off white in this case is called Oyster by Epiphanes. I don t know if that makes it better, though... Any way, it is
Re: Gypsy, Preparing to start firt boat (8 messages)
Thu Jul 25 2002
I think I will do just that. I have been waiting a long time to build her and I am ready to start. Being a novice and not educated in the subject this is a
FREE Rudder and Centerboard - Houston (1 message)
Thu Jul 25 2002
I have a rudder and centerboard that were pulled from unknown boat(s). The centerboard is 12.7 wide, and 4 high not including the half moon shape on top.
FREE Tortoise in Houston TX (1 message)
Thu Jul 25 2002
Anybody want a free tortoise? This one is pretty old and beat up, but it does float and comes with a set of oars. http://www.shortypen.com/misc/tort1.jpg
Re: His and Her Dories (4 messages)
Thu Jul 25 2002
His dory, her dory, dock - there is a poem in there somewhere...
Re: Wood flour (23 messages)
Thu Jul 25 2002
I have seen wheat flour recommended. It may have been Dave Carnell. There is probably not much strength difference - it is a filler after all. If you want
RE: [bolger] Re: Anchor for a Scooner? (17 messages)
Fri Jul 26 2002
While the chain component of an anchor rode does provide some chafe protection from bottom obstructions, the primary functions are to provide a shock absorbing
Re: June Bug - Leeboard? (6 messages)
Fri Jul 26 2002
Do both. Build a bilgeboard and a leeboard - experiment with each, and let us know the results! I have no complaints regarding the leeboard on my Elegant Punt
Dealing with tape selving (was Re: Tack and tape question) (26 messages)
Fri Jul 26 2002
... Yup. But you need to have a sharp blade so it only takes a little pressure. If you pull the waste strip off as you move along you can make cut a pretty
Re: Bow Eye (5 messages)
Sat Jul 27 2002
... recommends it ... the ... You could also consider glueing in that white plumbing pipe. If you heat it enough with a torch that it looses it s shine
Re: what simple dinghy tows well? (23 messages)
Sat Jul 27 2002
Why not just tow a Brick? You could always stow a mast and boom for side trips or put a small gas motor on it. With 875 lbs load capacity it is the most
downloading lettters (1 message)
Sat Jul 27 2002
Greetings Bolger people. Can t remember all the terms like bolgerados, bolgerites, etc. I am having a grand boating summer using the smaller boats, a lot of
Re: Queen Mab!!! (13 messages)
Sun Jul 28 2002
She s a real beaut alright! What are Queen Mab s dimensions and capacity? She d look great behind any boat.
Re: [bolger] Re: Wood flour (7 messages)
Sun Jul 28 2002
That was me. False economy, buy it from Raka, it s a much finer flower. ... From: Stew Miller To: Sent:
I saw a Micro for sale... (1 message)
Mon Jul 29 2002
FYI - While visiting friends in Chicago this weekend, I noticed a red Micro for sale on the side of the road near Lake Bluff, Il. It went by too fast for me
Re: Dagger Board Slots (8 messages)
Mon Jul 29 2002
Hi Dennis, A couple of approaches you might consider. First, if you are glassing the bottom, is to fold the glass into the daggerboard case covering the end
dinghy plot thickens (1 message)
Mon Jul 29 2002
Inspired by Shoebox and the squareboats, I ve come up with a middle way between Tortoise and Elegant Punt. Symmetrical fore and aft (just turn around and use
Re: [bolger] Re: Gypsy Weekend (5 messages)
Tue Jul 30 2002
and if you could LIVE in said boats someday, it would justify the loss of trees... nunativs?!? ... From: XROMAD To:
Re: $80,000 Bolger, Bright Thread... (2 messages)
Tue Jul 30 2002
I concur with Tim on this. She is beautiful. My family and I passed her at the head of Oyster River in Chatham where she looks much better than the photo on
Re: What's the purpose of bedding compound? (2 messages)
Tue Jul 30 2002
Dennis, Bedding compound is useful to keep water out of areas you do not want it such as the underlying wood, yet it allows you to remove the hardware that has
Re: Check this out,Micrologists :-) (3 messages)
Tue Jul 30 2002
Hi Bruce, Didn t mean to suggest or even hint that such pollution may find its roots amongst the fair citizens of Kingston Town.Perish the thought!! I can
Re: Micro on eBay! (3 messages)
Tue Jul 30 2002
I too have seen Lestat. A very nice job of building. ... wrote: snip ... snip Lestat is for sale snip ... a
Re: Phil Bolger Boats (2 messages)
Tue Jul 30 2002
No one web site. Good places to start are: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger2 Lots of good info in files and bookmarks
Birdwatcher and Oddly Enough, A Macintosh Question (1 message)
Wed Jul 31 2002
All, I am please to report that my free Birdwatcher is nearing the point of launchability. Some few fixes to a frame or two and the fore and aft deck
Black skimmer experience (1 message)
Wed Jul 31 2002
About an easy-to-raise&lower mast system for Black Skimmer (to avoid the tabernacle on such a long mast): I have sketches from Phil himself, for a gunter rig
Dobler on Duckworks (1 message)
Wed Jul 31 2002
Hello, all. For those who are interested, I posted some pics of the Dobler under construction at Duckworks and Chuck has been gracious enough to display them.